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First Official Picture Of Jared Leto's DAMAGED Joker!

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Hosnestly the whole look gives me a stiches kinda vibe

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https://youtu.be/4Ch1FUVupR8?t=19
 

Penguin

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Saw on reddit that someone on twitter (possibly credible based on past leaks) has been saying that the tats are just a thing for the 75th anniversary and that they aren't actually part of the look. Can't say I believe them considering the 'he said, she said' trail.

http://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comm...lly_think_about_it_it_could_have_been/cqokto1

Oh gawd, the sauce is
"The teaser will premiere end of Jan/early Feb... no wait with the Superbowl.. oh nope it's def with Jupiter Ascending!"

Yeah...
 

depths20XX

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There's no way the tats are just some thing for a "75th Anniversary" they wouldn't have released the image without saying that first.
 
The look could work if they're going for a demythifcation of Joker, given how popular he's been with disgruntled teens and young adults, instead of making him cool they're making him a sad lunatic who hurts people because of entitlement or women issues.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Saw on reddit that someone on twitter (possibly credible based on past leaks) has been saying that the tats are just a thing for the 75th anniversary and that they aren't actually part of the look. Can't say I believe them considering the 'he said, she said' trail.

http://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comm...lly_think_about_it_it_could_have_been/cqokto1

This seems like a really weird tweet from Leto if the Joker ends up not having tattoos.

https://twitter.com/JaredLeto/status/591832984065429505
 

Effect

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Read something that made sense when talking about how he got the tattoos. Assuming he didn't have them before becoming the Joker. Who would he trust enough to do them and perhaps do them well? Not some random tattoo parlor. What about Harley Quinn herself!?

Would account for the way they look compared to him doing them himself. Who did it would have to be someone he trusted or was able to be relaxed around.
 
This sounds like the plan. They are grounding him, and that includes grounding his image with the public, they don't want him to be this mythical figure, they want us to feel him as a real lunatic, again.

I was going more for a humiliating unatractive portrayal, imagine a Breivik like lunatic
 

Carnby

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Saw on reddit that someone on twitter (possibly credible based on past leaks) has been saying that the tats are just a thing for the 75th anniversary and that they aren't actually part of the look. Can't say I believe them considering the 'he said, she said' trail.

http://www.reddit.com/r/batman/comm...lly_think_about_it_it_could_have_been/cqokto1

At this point, if the tattoos don't make the final cut, it's because WB is back peddling on a shitty idea. Nothing else.
 

kswiston

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What's interesting to me is that, in 2007, Batman Begins complaints were common enough that people were already beleagured by it.

Now it's *clearly, easily* the best of all the Nolan films.

I like it.

I wonder if we are within a decade of internet opinion swaying on the Star Wars prequels. Disney is going to start pumping out newer movies and people who were young children when the prequels first hit are approaching their 20s now. I have noticed that Gaming side is becoming increasingly nostalgic for N64/PS1/PS2 titles that were largely considered shit back when I was in high school/college. Legend of Dragoon for instance.
 

Kibbles

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At this point, if the tattoos don't make the final cut, it's because WB is back peddling on a shitty idea. Nothing else.

They've already been filming all month. Jared goes back on tour for a couple weeks in May, but I heard he'll be back to film more afterwards.
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
Ehh, that doesn't look very good to me. Not a fan of the grill or tats. Hopefully he's not shirtless the whole time. I was hoping for an Endgame inspired look. Leto is a good actor so I'll wait to see the performance before final judgment, obviously, but my initial raccoon is disappointment.
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Vice

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Is making him look like the new comics really that hard? How is the one in the left inferior? How is the other better in any way?



I really, really don't get it.
Perhaps they want the live action depixtion to be different than his comics/animated appearance. The one on the right isn't better, but it's not necessarily worse. Criminals are very into fullbody tattoos. Aside from the face and hand ones, it's unlikely that you'll see them very often.
The Joker has a very high opinion of himself so
A bit of narcisism in tattoos isn't unlikely. As far as the smile goes, that just depends on the lipstick and Leto's real mouth.

It's a new take that fits with the characters personality. Or at least some takes on his personality over the last seven decades.
 

Fj0823

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Perhaps they want the live action depixtion to be different than his comics/animated appearance. The one on the right isn't better, but it's not necessarily worse. Criminals are very into fullbody tattoos. Aside from the face and hand ones, it's unlikely that you'll see them very often.
The Joker has a very high opinion of himself so
A bit of narcisism in tattoos isn't unlikely. As far as the smile goes, that just depends on the lipstick and Leto's real mouth.

It's a new take that fits with the characters personality. Or at least some takes on his personality over the last seven decades.

See my problem is, How many times have the "We will change it and make it better!" Approach has worked?

Sure MARVEL has made significant changes, but it has certainly kept it's character's aesthetics and recognizable designs as much as possible. TDK also had iconic designs that even if different, captured the character's original look in some way.

Then we have Deadpool (Origins), Galactus, Catwoman, Constantine, Blogger Hobo Doom,....I can go on.

These are real good examples of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it". I feel like besides MARVEL, and very recently, some teams at FOX,Studios are STILL ashamed of making "lolComics" movies, they think they have to "fix" the comic bookiness....and It never works.

Suicide Squad is not that well known of a property, think Guardians of the Galaxy, and the pull of having The Joker, is absolutely gone with this move. You cannot ride on his popularity anymore, as you said, this joker now has to prove itself with the odds and opinion against him.

I'm aware Leto can make a masterful performance, but with those precedents, I feel pessimistic.

EDIT: Seriously, just Imagine Death of the Family on film...
I am totally aware this will NEVER happen
 
I get wanting a ripped-from-the-page Joker on-screen, but I doubt that would fit well with the Man of Steel/DCCU tone. But seriously this Joker is obviously going to be closest we've gotten to comic Joker.

- This isn't Joker's origin. He and Batman have been fighting for years
- Harley Quinn and Arkham Asylum exist already, so there's that side to Joker
- Possibly
killed a Robin

More than just a clown gangster or an criminal mastermind/anarchist. We're getting the veteran nemesis. The master manipulator. The violent psychopath.

How could you not be excited to finally see that Joker on-screen?
 

Effect

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Still liking the design. However the more I look at it though the more I dislike the "Damaged" tattoo on the forehead. Like others I think that one perhaps needs to go or not be seen. I think that might be universal for the most part even if you like it from what I've been seeing.
 

Vice

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See my problem is, How many times have the "We will change it and make it better!" Approach has worked?

Sure MARVEL has made significant changes, but it has certainly kept it's character's aesthetics and recognizable designs as much as possible. TDK also had iconic designs that even if different, captured the character's original look in some way.

Then we have Deadpool (Origins), Galactus, Catwoman, Constantine, Blogger Hobo Doom,....I can go on.

These are real good examples of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it". I feel like besides MARVEL, and very recently, some teams at FOX,Studios are STILL ashamed of making "lolComics" movies, they think they have to "fix" the comic bookiness....and It never works.

Suicide Squad is not that well known of a property, think Guardians of the Galaxy, and the pull of having The Joker, is absolutely gone with this move. You cannot ride on his popularity anymore, as you said, this joker now has to prove itself with the odds and opinion against him.

I'm aware Leto can make a masterful performance, but with those precedents, I feel pessimistic.

EDIT: Seriously, just Imagine Death of the Family on film...
I am totally aware this will NEVER happen
But, comics are constantly changing appearances and looks. And, the result on film is mixed. Some straighter adaptations failed, like Spawn orGhost Rider and some drastic changes were a great success, like Fox's X-films or Reimi's Spiderman.

The Joker is going to be recognizable as the Joker. Toss on a purple shirt and green vest and he'll be good to go. It will be no more drastic than Superman's MoS look compared to the comics. And, the Joker has some of the most wildly different looks in comics, cartoons and film people are ysed to him always looking different.


And, the odds are in this movies favor. It's a comic book movie with the most popular villain in it. A bomb would be $500 billion for Suicide Squad.
 

botty

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Guess it's safe to say that this Joker design will go down as the most controversial and, I suppose, iconic. Good Job, Jared. Just like on Oscar night, you win.
 

Fj0823

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But, comics are constantly changing appearances and looks. And, the result on film is mixed. Some straighter adaptations failed, like Spawn orGhost Rider and some drastic changes were a great success, like Fox's X-films or Reimi's Spiderman.

The Joker is going to be recognizable as the Joker. Toss on a purple shirt and green vest and he'll be good to go. It will be no more drastic than Superman's MoS look compared to the comics. And, the Joker has some of the most wildly different looks in comics, cartoons and film people are ysed to him always looking different.


And, the odds are in this movies favor. It's a comic book movie with the most popular villain in it. A bomb would be $500 billion for Suicide Squad.

See this is the argument that always gets thrown around. Yes, comic book characters change from author to author. but most of the time they do get as much shit by making changes to the core of the character.

All-Star Batman and Robin's Joker is a good example. It was criticized for being different,serious, having a dragon tattoo,not laughing once, etc.

While Scott Snyder's Joker ripped his fucking face off, traded his purple suit for a Janitor uniform and very few people didn't like it for the aesthetic, most readers liked the story since he was still the Joker,just VERY pissed off.

I see your point. I do agree that a purple suit and good dialogue and performance can save this joker, but I´m just feeling the "We're to good for comics" vibe from a mile away.
 
I dunno where that vibe is coming from. Looks like the joker we all know, just a different fashion/style choice

Personally I'm hoping they go for a punk look but in all likelihood it will be yet another suit-wearing joker

And what he wears really isn't integral to the character at all. I had no problems with the janitor suit shit for instance
 
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