Dictator93
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Hrmmm.
A 4k monitor without variable refresh rates sounds like a waste of money to be honest. You have that nice pixel clarity of course.. but then the judder. Meh....
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Acer XB270HU monitor review (144Hz 1440p IPS G-sync)
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Hrmmm.
A 4k monitor without variable refresh rates sounds like a waste of money to be honest. You have that nice pixel clarity of course.. but then the judder. Meh....
jim2point0
Banned
According to this, Acer's 3440x1440 version of this monitor will only be 75hz.
The GPUs required to power 4K at 120hz though..... I don't even want to think about. And I'm not convinced that you could scale 1080p to 4K without it looking terrible.
Yeah, I think we'll have to wait a bit for 4k VRR monitors with high upper-end refresh rates. But at least there's some life in the monitor market now, after years of stagnation. I'm really glad to see that.
Personally, I'm not too sure about 4k just yet. I have given up any thought of all the applications I use daily supporting DPI scaling properly before 2020, so if I got a 4k monitor it would have to be large enough to feature a PPI usable at 100% scaling -- so probably 32" at least.
Personally, I'm not too sure about 4k just yet. I have given up any thought of all the applications I use daily supporting DPI scaling properly before 2020, so if I got a 4k monitor it would have to be large enough to feature a PPI usable at 100% scaling -- so probably 32" at least.
ScepticMatt
Member
With dpi scaling, you lose much of the work space advantage you'd normally have with a high-resolution screen.
So 32/40" 4/5k seem about perfect monitor combinations to me, unless we're talking ultra wide screens.
A low height computer desk can make both larger monitors and keyboard typing more ergonomic anyway.
Something like this, but with the monitor extending down to the desk.
In that case the most amount of ergonomic monitor height you could fit on a flat desk would be about 55 cm
A 32" screen has ~40, a 40" screen has ~50 cm screen height (without bezels)
http://iitg.vlab.co.in/?sub=72&brch=171&sim=835&cnt=1543
http://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/sections/section03.htm
Amazon is listing the monitor again. No idea when it will actually ship though.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UPVXDA8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
SliChillax
Member
Wait, why is this so cheap? Is there a catch?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LX2J17W/
Edit: I'm an idiot, it's the 1080p one.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LX2J17W/
Edit: I'm an idiot, it's the 1080p one.
Well, going by the numbers, DisplayPort 1.3 only just has sufficient bandwidth for 3840x2160 at 120Hz.
Late 2016 might be the earliest a display like that could arrive, assuming DisplayPort 1.4. Unless you consider some kind of dual DP 1.3 configuration to drive it.
Dries
Member
Coming from a 22 inch monitor and now gaming on a XB270HU and I'm having trouble finding the words to describe what I am seeing on the screen right now.
- more pixels
- larger physical screen size
- IPS colours
- G-sync
All this combined is just making my head explode.
Question though: it came with the brightness set to 100%. Won't that damage the screen or something? Doesn't seem right....
Also: are there any colour calabrations I should do?
- more pixels
- larger physical screen size
- IPS colours
- G-sync
All this combined is just making my head explode.
Question though: it came with the brightness set to 100%. Won't that damage the screen or something? Doesn't seem right....
Also: are there any colour calabrations I should do?
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
Dries
Member
So I think I did this correctly, but I'm liking the standard settings (where the brightness is set to 100%) better. Not sure if I'm doing this right?
I applied the .icc profile to my GPU in the windows Colour Management screen. Then I set my monitor settings the same way as I've found in this table (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm). I tried GTA V (and bumped the brightness up in the in-game settings, cause I had to lower my monitor's brightness to 24 according to that table).
I just find that with the brightness standard of 100% the colours are so much more clear, vibrant and bright. The suggested settings by tftcentral made the colours look kinda washed out.... so I guess I'll just keep it on standard settings.
michaelius
Banned
Dries
Member
Srat saving for glasses then
100% brightness is insane.
That's what I thought too. Those are stock settings though, and the tft profile doesn't look better imho, so for now, I guess I'll just stick with it.
BrokenSymmetry
Member
Just received the XB270HU today, and it's amazing! I always switch on VSync (any kind of screen-tearing makes me nauseous), and it's great to have a very smooth image at any frame rate. The colours are almost as good as on my Dell XPS 27. I'm always very fussy with respect to font-rendering, and with some ClearType adjustments all text is extremely good-looking (even in Chrome). Oh, and thank god for Geforce Experience! Optimizing game-settings for a new screen resolution is now simply 2 clicks (Revert and Optimize).
Only drawback is that at 144Hz my GPU (a GTX980) idles at 50 °C, whereas at lower refresh rates it's 32 °C. Seems to be a common complaint that Nvidia GPU's will not clock down at 144Hz. No big deal for me, though, because this is a PC I'm only using for gaming.
Only drawback is that at 144Hz my GPU (a GTX980) idles at 50 °C, whereas at lower refresh rates it's 32 °C. Seems to be a common complaint that Nvidia GPU's will not clock down at 144Hz. No big deal for me, though, because this is a PC I'm only using for gaming.
32" 4K is way too small to use without DPI scaling. I find 40" to be the sweet spot.
BrokenSymmetry
Member
Thanks, that works great! Results in 120Hz and low temperatures on the desktop, and up to 144Hz in-game.
jeebus.cross posting from another [H]Forum member (l88bastard) cause this is so sick
3xAcer's in portrait surround 144hz Gsync de-bezeled
now hurry up with mine Amazon :\
$2.5k in monitors alone right there
lukeskymac
Member
OLED 4K G-SYNC/Freesync 144Hz 30" monitor when? (2018 I guess...)
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
I use the ICC profile from TFT-Central and their user color settings (user RBG 50, 45, 46), 50% contrast, but for brightness I do this :
- 0% brightness in the user profile, for when I'm not playing, I like having low brightness when I don't play
- when I play, I switch to the screen to Eco mode, it brings up the brightness to 44%
- if it's sunny and theirs too much light in the room, I use the Standard mode which uses 100% brightness.
This way, I can get colorful images and great contrasts in game, and low brigthness while browsing the web.
The different e-Color modes of this screens changes just the brightness, except for Movie and Graphics that also changes the contrasts.
mr stroke
Member
Canceled my Amazon order, and ordered from Acer.com store since they are in stock.
FYI to anyone using the ACER store(or wanting to save a little)- If you add the monitor to your cart and leave it for a few hours, you should get a pop up window for 10% off and free shipping. If you don't, you can chat with support and they will call you with a 10% off and free shipping promo code but you have to order via phone. Was able to get one for $719 with free shipping
FYI to anyone using the ACER store(or wanting to save a little)- If you add the monitor to your cart and leave it for a few hours, you should get a pop up window for 10% off and free shipping. If you don't, you can chat with support and they will call you with a 10% off and free shipping promo code but you have to order via phone. Was able to get one for $719 with free shipping
icecold1983
Member
Dreathlock
Member
In stock at Amazon.de too. Just ordered mine.
Please no dead pixels and back light bleeding....
Please no dead pixels and back light bleeding....
Lockjaw333
Member
Its more likely that you may just be used to a cooler, brighter uncalibrated image.
Apply the recommended settings and the icc profile and give it a few days to adjust, then see how you feel.
If you are concerned about having accurate colors, you may also want to think about getting something like the Spyder4 express, which runs about $60 right now. It will automatically create a calibrated ICC profile for your monitor within a few minutes. There is also a Pro model that costs more and has more options, but if you just want a quick and painless adjustment try the Express. I recently got one and can vouch for it doing a pretty good job on my Asus VS248H-P monitor.
For the record though, the recommended settings and ICC profile for my monitor on tftcentral are better, so I highly recommend it.
Of course this happens while I'm travelling :/In stock at Amazon.de too. Just ordered mine.
Please no dead pixels and back light bleeding....
All gone now.
icecold1983
Member
got mine today!
Dries
Member
Seems I'll be trying the ICC profile again. Two questions though:
Can I play a little with the brightness slider when using the tftcentral profile? Or will that really mess up the image? They recommend brightness set at 24%, but I'd like to have it in the 50-75% range. I just like a semi-bright screen.
Concerning RGB values: when using the tftcentral profile, can I still use the pre-programmed settings like "warm" and "cool" etc? Or do I have to exclusively use the RGB settings that tftcentral provides? Reason I'm asking is because GTA V looks delicious with the "warm" setting (that LA vibe) and I'd really like to keep using it.
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
Sure, the brightness slider only changes the backlight strength, so colors stays the same, but you can have better contrasts if you increase it, just set what you like.
About the RGB values, the settings they advise (user RBG 50, 45, 46) are close to warm, but the ICC profile might look blue or cold with normal values (50, 50, 50), so with their settings white is pure white and image is not warm anymore.
Just try, if you don't like it, you can disable the ICC profile and stay with the warm settings, or use a SweetFX preset to make GTA V warmer.
At first I did not really like teir ICC profile and user settings, but now I'm used to it.
bltn
Member
In stock at Amazon.de too. Just ordered mine.
Please no dead pixels and back light bleeding....
Ugh, I skipped checking Amazon.de yesterday. Damn it.
Dries
Member
Thanks man, I'll give it a try.
Dries
Member
Wow, some real optical illusion shit going down here. So I tried the tftcentral .icc profile and monitor settings again and now I'm really digging it. When I switch back and forth between normal/warm/user I can really notice that the tftcentral settings apply some red glow or something over the image. That doesn't sound great, but in the end, it makes the lighting look more realistic. But I can't pinpoint exactly WHY it looks better. What is this sorcery?
Dreathlock
Member
My XB270Hu should come today, but brwosing trough the Amazon.de reviews the backlight bleeding problem is massive. I hope i get a good one, but if there is bleeding or dead pixels i will definetely send it back. A 750 monitor should not have problems like this.
2 examples from customers:
I will report back how mine turns out.
2 examples from customers:
I will report back how mine turns out.
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
My XB270Hu should come today, but brwosing trough the Amazon.de reviews the backlight bleeding problem is massive. I hope i get a good one, but if there is bleeding or dead pixels i will definetely send it back. A 750 monitor should not have problems like this.
2 examples from customers:
I will report back how mine turns out.
This is mostly IPS glow and not back light bleeding, it affects every IPS panels.
Also, remember that it's always more visible with a camera than with your eyes.
What I posted some weeks ago:
I took some photos, screen set in Standard mode, so brightness is set to 100%.
I locked my phone on ISO 400 and 1/20s exposure time to make lighting constant between photos and not to accentuate the effect, even if it's still more visible in photos than in real life.
While using the screen on web I set brightness to 0% and in game I use the Eco mode that put it to 44% (this mode and the Standard one only changes the brightness).
Front :
Angles :
Over/under :
So I get a little BLB in the bottom right, not a big deal, only visible on some dark scenes.
IPS glow is almost invisible.
Lockjaw333
Member
Changing the brightness is fine, its just a backlight control on most monitors.
The recommended RGB values are tied to the ICC profile. Its likely that whatever device they used for calibration guided them to those RGB values as the closest to ideal, and then the device did the rest and created the ICC profile. So you would need to use the two in conjunction.
Just curious, what do you mean by "GTA V looks delicious with the warm setting"? Its likely that the recommended RGB values are close to the warm preset (which is probably closest to 6500K), and the most common issue is that the default color temp over-emphasizes red and is too "warm". The recommended RGBs and ICC profile should be eliminating whatever cast there may be with default warm. You may prefer a warmer picture.
Using the ICC profile without the recommended RGB values and using preset "warm" instead will likely be better than default, just not perfect. The ICC profile will ensure the grayscale is neutral, you will just have a warmer color temp (a bit of guesswork here but hopefully you get the idea).
Like I said you may want to also invest in something like a Spyder4 express, which is cheap and painless and should get your monitor very close to ideal. Considering you spent so much on the monitor, an extra $60 isnt that bad for more accurate colors.
Well after checking Amazon for over a month, I've finally got a delivery estimate... Woo! Currently May 11th. (2 day international shipping). Ordered April 7th.
Got a business trip from May 8th-May 12th... really hoping it doesn't rock up May 8th... would drive me NUTS for the whole trip.
Got a business trip from May 8th-May 12th... really hoping it doesn't rock up May 8th... would drive me NUTS for the whole trip.
Dries
Member
First of all, thanks. You seem to know a lot, very handy!
Well, I meant that, with the warm preset, the colours in GTA V seem very vibrant and bright and... warm. Basically it comes across as that it's really hot in the game world. Which fits the settings very well obviously.
It's true that their isn't a whole lot of difference between the warm preset and the tftcentral preset. The largest difference I can see (and you've pointed it out as well) is that their seems to be a emphasis on red with the tftcentral settings. Therefore I feel like the tftcentral settings seem to be even warmer than the warm preset. But this could very well be not true and it's just my eyes that need to adjust to the new colours, I don't know.
The tftcentral settings do make the game look better tough. The tftcentral settings seem to apply a more overall realistic lighting to the game. Now, when I switch back and forth, I prefer the tftcentral settings. Yes, there is an emphasis on red, but the overall image seems much more realistic. It's hard to explain in words. It's just a feeling I get.
I also ordered on April 7th! ..but my estimated delivery day is May 26th. This is killing me.
Give them a call/chat. My credit card (my wife's actually haha) just got charged this morning... Hopefully it's on it's way!
Considering all the defects it might not be so bad to get one later on when QC may be better... I'm nervous getting one of the earlier ones from Amazon. As I'm from overseas, I really don't want to have to ship it back.
My XB270Hu should come today, but brwosing trough the Amazon.de reviews the backlight bleeding problem is massive. I hope i get a good one, but if there is bleeding or dead pixels i will definetely send it back. A 750 monitor should not have problems like this.
2 examples from customers:
I will report back how mine turns out.
I'll keep my Asus
I was going to swap for the better panel but not after checking all this out.
SliChillax
Member
It's more visible with a camera than with your eye.
Amazon just updated my estimated arrival date and I didn't even call them! May 6th now.
I fully expect it to be damaged/defective in some way!
Dreathlock
Member
Got my XB270HU from Amazon.de today.
I am completely blown away.
First off i got REALLY lucky. My sample doesnt have any dead pixels or blb. It is perfect...
After playing a bit GTA5 (60-80fps) and Black Ops 2 (constant 144fps) i can say that this is really my definition of next gen gaming. BO2 is so fluid, amazing!
I love it. My PS4 will be collecting dust now until Persona 5 arrives. Cant wait to test more games.
To all who purchased from Amazon.de i wish you good luck. There seem to be good samples around.
I am completely blown away.
First off i got REALLY lucky. My sample doesnt have any dead pixels or blb. It is perfect...
After playing a bit GTA5 (60-80fps) and Black Ops 2 (constant 144fps) i can say that this is really my definition of next gen gaming. BO2 is so fluid, amazing!
I love it. My PS4 will be collecting dust now until Persona 5 arrives. Cant wait to test more games.
To all who purchased from Amazon.de i wish you good luck. There seem to be good samples around.
I feel the same way. I'm expecting moving up to 1440p with G-Sync to feel next gen.
What PC specs do you have?
Man, I got Amazon Global Priority Shipping, I'm in Malaysia, the monitor started in Florida and had stops in Kentucky and Alaska.... hope its not been thrown around too much...
nextgeneration
Member
Anyone upgrade from ROG Swift to this monitor? If so, is the jump massive, color wise?