Insightful comment, truly.
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So Metal Gear's "Quiet" figurine features squishable boobs.
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Insightful comment, truly.
Read the thread maybe.
Stormblessed
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I'm surprised Square-Enix were okay with doing this with the Play-Arts line. I mean, the consistently low quality is one thing, but I'd think they want the line's image to be otherwise spotless.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Are people seriously shocked by this? Did you guys really not know about these types of figures or are you just getting upset about Quiet again? This is ridiculous.
Ultimadrago
Member
ponpo pls respond
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
This is the sin Kojima was talking about.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Well it's about as harmful as "stay in the kitchen" jokes. Overplayed, eye roll worthy and annoying.
It was funny and cute before but now it's like SHEESH WE GET IT KOJIMA! You're a pervert! Now go write some long winded anti-nuclear monologues!
RustedPieces
Banned
I don't even. Why is Kojima/MGS moving against anything people managed to achieve when it comes to women in gaming recently?
How exactly is an action figure with rubber breasts an attack on women? If anything, I'd argue your post propagates that kind of thinking more than the figure does.
I agree it's an odd choice to make the figure with squish-able breasts, but figure collectors probably appreciate the care when it comes to making the figures as authentic as possible, and breasts are notoriously squishy.
Just a thought, the conversation should have been more about the figure, and less about the women you think it's oppressing.
How exactly is an action figure with rubber breasts an attack on women? If anything, I'd argue your post propagates that kind of thinking more than the figure does.
I agree it's an odd choice to make the figure with squish-able breasts, but figure collectors probably appreciate the care when it comes to making the figures as authentic as possible, and breasts are notoriously squishy.
Just a thought, the conversation should have been more about the figure, and less about the women you think it's oppressing.
SolidSnakex
Member
This is as far as it went
The guy that posted it never returned to the thread to explain why he said it in the first place.
CambriaRising
Member
I just can't even be upset about this. It's too dumb/funny.
scoobidoo112
Member
So men should now be ridiculed for being sexual creatures? Liking a silly figurine makes you a pervert? Seems like a tad of an overreaction to me. How about we let people like what they want to like as long as they aren't harming others. Liking a figurine harms precisely nobody, nor does it harm the image of women. Women have always had boobs and men have always been attracted to them. Nothing wrong with that.
Ohmygoditsjrod
Banned
Man this figure was not on my radar at all, but now I might actally pick it up. Maybe we can get a Solid Snake figure with a squish able butt. I know they have those for other figures. To bad it's a PAK.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I don't see what's to be upset about in the first place.
Way ahead of you:
Sarcasm.
Exasperated resignation.
A measured response taking on Kojima's hypocrisy.
A genuine question.
More actual substantive criticism, followed by a disclaimer that the poster isn't a MGS fan.
Disgust.
It's really unhelpful to discussion when one side completely misconstrues the positions of the other.
KingHenrik30
Member
My pleasure! Glad you liked it.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
For full disclosure, I think the splatoon designs are creepy and they look like they're inspired by lolicon.
But that's aside the point.
Big Chungus
Member
lol...
Maybe he changed his mind?
But still, the point remains, people sexualized w/e they want to sexualize.
Yay! Imma let you finish but Nastasha Romanenko is one of my favorite MGS characters of all time.
My only sin is squishing too deeply and loving too hard. SSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKEEEEEERR
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Do male figurines have squishable crotches? If not then I call sexism.
You asked for angry or outraged ones and I posted a few from the first page. You chose to completely ignore them. I guess that's how you're way ahead of me.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Japan is not the place you think it is.
Fixed
ffejeromdiks
Banned
This isn't about what you're trying to make it about, yes Kojima made a perverted tweet, I'm not arguing against that, I'm just trying to show that this isn't his perverted design decision to create a "boob physics" feature, it's an action figure decision to increase poseability and nothing more.
Of course it would be less offensive if Quiet was wearing anything other than a Bikini...but since that's her design, they have to play ball.
I tried to take some pictures to show the effect (in the name of science of course.....)
It's much harder to notice on snake since he's in a thick sneaking suit as opposed to a skimpy bikini, but it's there.
Brawndo Addict
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There's a great article written by Laura Hudson about this issue of female design as it pertains to the comic world, "The Big Sexy Problem with Superheroines and Their 'Liberated Sexuality". It's worth reading the whole thing but her closing is the particularly relevant part in regards to the"lore" or "powers" explanation.
I have posted about Quiet so much that I usually just look up my old posts because I have little to add I haven't already said, which for this issue (of her design / rationale), is the following (with some minor additions):
It's a god damn video game, the only real reason she has to be naked is because of Kojima. He can make her power work however he wants but lo and behold this one requires her to be naked. Oh sorry, not actually naked, apparently nudity is the one taboo Kojima can't tackle, so she's just gonna wear a bikini and ripped nylons and have her breast size doubled over Stephanie's. She can wear nylons on her legs but obviously she can't wear shorts or a tank top, it would break the tenuous grip we have on the coherent Metal Gear fiction. Never mind that the End could use photosynthesis in a Ghillie suit, we're gonna retcon that away. Her power obviously requires her to be just mostly naked, covering up her arms or legs would leave her with not enough skin to absorb the sun. That's not just some trivial thing that was arbitrarily decided and could be changed on a whim, it's a hard physical parameter in the universe that must be obeyed.
I have posted about Quiet so much that I usually just look up my old posts because I have little to add I haven't already said, which for this issue (of her design / rationale), is the following (with some minor additions):
It's a god damn video game, the only real reason she has to be naked is because of Kojima. He can make her power work however he wants but lo and behold this one requires her to be naked. Oh sorry, not actually naked, apparently nudity is the one taboo Kojima can't tackle, so she's just gonna wear a bikini and ripped nylons and have her breast size doubled over Stephanie's. She can wear nylons on her legs but obviously she can't wear shorts or a tank top, it would break the tenuous grip we have on the coherent Metal Gear fiction. Never mind that the End could use photosynthesis in a Ghillie suit, we're gonna retcon that away. Her power obviously requires her to be just mostly naked, covering up her arms or legs would leave her with not enough skin to absorb the sun. That's not just some trivial thing that was arbitrarily decided and could be changed on a whim, it's a hard physical parameter in the universe that must be obeyed.
Holy shit hahahhaha
No, but a soft plastic chest as well. It's a standard feature required for posing them, as previously explained in this thread.
There we go.
Metal Gear Solid is arguably one of the few series where there are more sexualized men than women.
StrangeTaco
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Gold.
thankx...It's been a long time.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Of course not but there is a time and place for everything
Liking a silly figurine doesn't make you a pervert but Kojima often tweets about sexual stuff in a tongue and cheek manner that essentially scream tee hee I'm being naughty!
Tee Hee, the eggs look like boobs! Tee hee!
I just find that aspect overplayed. Almost seems like he's trying too hard
No one is being harmed but Kojima's on the world stage and everyone is watching. Now because everyone is watching he could use that opportunity to promote better representation and what not since that's a problem in the industry. Instead he unintentionally perpetuates it.
Having an action figure isn't the problem, focusing on the fact that it has squishy boobs is the problem.
Älg;163543504 said:
I would say both are equally sexualized. Problem is that women in gaming are sexualized too much while the men are not.
Kojima's intentions may be pure but his methods are incorrect
scoobidoo112
Member
Exactly. Wait....
Getting upset about it is the problem from my perspective. There are a million things I can get pissed off about and will want to see change in regarding women, their rights and their well-being. This is not one of them. Let's tackle the things that matter first and then we can talk about the horror of plastic, squish-able boobs...
I wouldn't call the ones you quoted angry or outraged, especially in the context of an internet discussion on a controversial topic.
I tried to take some pictures to show the effect (in the name of science of course.....)
It's much harder to notice on snake since he's in a thick sneaking suit as opposed to a skimpy bikini, but it's there.
Thank you for this wonderful, wonderful post.
Ha, I was just thinking of that.
Kojima! Tell whoever is in charge of this to make a big boss figure with a squishable crotch, on the double! We must bring balance to the squish!
I tried to take some pictures to show the effect (in the name of science of course.....)
It's much harder to notice on snake since he's in a thick sneaking suit as opposed to a skimpy bikini, but it's there.
Kojima thought 15 steps ahead of the internet.
"You can't insinuate that this was anything other that equivalent representation of a female character now. Checkmate."
Nice. You get a smiley face on your report card.
MadClacker
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The fact this is a 23 page thread already highlights just how sensitive people are nowadays.
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