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Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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Would be a fucking miracle.
SnowDrops
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You missed post process.xml?
Well, couldn't that change with the 1.01 version of the game at release?
IGN didn't use LightShafts, but we got it in the config without any comment telling it wouldn't work.
But I'm just dreaming I guess.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Wish someone with the PC code running on a decent rig would just crank it all to ultra, hairworks enabled, light shafts, etc.,pump it up to 4K, and take some screenshots. I wanna see this game in all its glory.
dr_rus
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TW2 EE didn't change anything in the renderer.well they did enhanced editions of the witcher 1 and 2
Might still not do it I have 2 titanx's and I get dips to 40 fps in gta v with ultra grass. I have a gsync monitor so I dont mind but yea.
Sanctuary
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I felt like the colors were fairly well done in TW2, even though I think the colors and atmosphere from TW1 was just leagues better. The issue I had with TW2 was the terrible use of bloom. It was just BAD. Almost no games use bloom in a good way, but this was something else entirely. Nighttime light illuminating from windows or campfires just looked terrible. But that wasn't even the worst part.
The worst is when people turned into Glow Worms and it looked like they had translucent heads with a light source on the inside. Not sure if that's actually improved in TW3, but the overall color palette is much worse for sure.
Kamina
Golden Boy
Isn't a titan x about 1k bucks?!
SnowDrops
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It is, I got one too
Aww that's too bad.. These two females need glorious hair too! It seemed that at some point they had it too judging by this screen
This shot does not have hairworks enabled for hair. I can't tell with the fur on yennefers neck.
I'm not aware of any game actually using HBAO. It is all HBAO+, unless somebody could offer examples?
Or £1000, thanks to nVidia's $1=£1 pricing bull shit.
Yes, the whole tone of the game was different from the original in terms of colour. The first thing I do everytime I play W2 is turn off the bloom - the implementation is absolutely horrific. It's a shame that console players probably didn't have that option.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Old designs of the characters and the scene is different in the final game having Ciri in front and Geralt in the back. Look few pages back.
BF games use HBAO, Far Cry 3 uses HBAO and even HDAO.
They're not developers, they're employees. From HR to financials, to QC, to PR, etc. Look up some credits and you'll see who does what.
Darkstorne
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So HBAO+ is confirmed, and we're pretty sure grass density and foliage draw distance can be improved beyond ultra through some kind of ini files? That pretty much solves all our concerns about foliage quality! HD retextures should be easy enough to produce if they're needed too.
SweetFX can take care of over-saturation for anyone not happy with the more colourful look. So... it's only particle effects and slightly lower mesh quality that are the remaining issues? Things are definitely looking up for us PC gamers compared to the start of this thread =)
SweetFX can take care of over-saturation for anyone not happy with the more colourful look. So... it's only particle effects and slightly lower mesh quality that are the remaining issues? Things are definitely looking up for us PC gamers compared to the start of this thread =)
Total employees is 9200.
I'll certainly concede that it isn't 1000 developers, but that credits list is 26 minutes long and the developer portion is a significant chunk of that. Also given that so much credit is spread around, it is hard to say the level of contribution of each person on that *massive* list.
chromatic9
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Titan X is £868-930 in the UK.
Every GPU I've looked at is cheaper and never had the $1=£1.
The 980 launched at $550, UK is around £450
GTX 970 UK = £240 US =$330
MY GTX 580 launch at $499. UK is £380-420
GTX 480 was the same as the 580
GTX 780ti was $700 and around £550
I could list every GPU. Where do you get this myth from? I've only seen it with the Euro.
I suppose it was a little dishonest. I bought the EVGA superclocked version, which is a little more expensive than its 'vanilla' counterpart. I suppose I tend to buy GPU's around release when high demand pushes prices higher.
Seems strange for Far Cry 4 to use plain HBAO. Isn't it a gameworks title?
lol. i was thinking the same. i've never seen a tree sway like that before in even the heaviest wind conditions here in the UK. i guess the world of the witcher is always on the verge of a tornado all the time...everywhere.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Sorry,I wrote 4 while I was thinking about BF 3, 4, Hardline which use HBAO so I got confused. I have Far Cry 3 and it doesn't have NVidia GameWorks and you can choose between: SSAO, HBAO and HDAO. Far Cry 4 integrated NVidia GameWorks even HairWorks (that doesn't look as good as The Witcher 3 btw) and there is HBAO+ in fact : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sC8XIsqjSc
lordfuzzybutt
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The titan x is 1300 here in Finland. Thanks based whatever.
If a window is open his hair will wave, or if the house has no roof and so on.
oneils
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And how much of it is vat? All prices in na are pre tax.
icecold1983
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the desaturated sharpening 3: wild hunt
im not sure what angle youre coming at this from, but that does not make it look like old media
Indeed, it's impossible to find it for less than 1000€ here in Europe, plus 800£ are about 1100€
nelsonroyale
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The thing with some of the old media...it was sharpened far too much and low quality assets were very visible at full res. Having said that, it had a vibrant look.
Watching high quality ps4 footage though...this game looks stunning. There are no ifs and buts...This isn't Watchdogs or even Unity...this game delivers visually in spades. The Sword of Destiny footage was always a weird anomoly...
Would take a lot of wind even with an open window... unless you were literally stood right beside it
icecold1983
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the sharpening was overdone, but it still looked much better than it does now. no amt of sharpening or color temperature changes will close the deficit. the lighting, assets, AO, lod, shading were all hit pretty hard
looks more like the 2014 footage, not 13.
Neither of those things are the case here. https://youtu.be/6OWhB6Zaiww?t=622
Realise I'm being pedantic over it, it's sure as hell not going to stop my day 1 purchase, it's just something which stuck out to me.
Yeah I know, it's the excuse they made.Would take a lot of wind even with an open window... unless you were literally stood right beside it
The glass was leaking
The glass was leaking
Just when you thought the world of the Witcher couldn't get any more dangerous: structurally unsound buildings!
chromatic9
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Prices include 20% VAT
Lets take 970 launch for example $330 RRP and £240 UK.
£240 already has 20% VAT included, Without the TAX is £208 and TAX works out to £40. Not only is the myth not found about £1=$1, its actually £8-10 cheaper. Factor in US tax of 5-10% and the 970 is $360 in some states.
Even if the launch is in short supply like the 7970.
US was $550 RRP and newegg was selling at $600-650
UK was £~450 RRP (notice again no £1-$1 myth) and was selling in some places at £500-550
UK is very competitive considering we have 20% tax. It's Euro currency countries who get the shaft.
Xbox One was $500 US, EU was 500 euro, UK was worked out correctly at £429 like almost always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87tOpDomsmM&feature=youtu.be&t=494
Apparenlty in munich they were showign the game runnign on a 960 on high 1080p and a single titan x running ultra 4k (around 8:45). Kinda surprising that single titan x can run ulktra 4k even with 2 titan x's at 1440p im getting drops to 40 fps in gta v. Could be signs of rly rly good optomisation or downgrade.
Apparenlty in munich they were showign the game runnign on a 960 on high 1080p and a single titan x running ultra 4k (around 8:45). Kinda surprising that single titan x can run ulktra 4k even with 2 titan x's at 1440p im getting drops to 40 fps in gta v. Could be signs of rly rly good optomisation or downgrade.
also cd projekt employee on the downgrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9rlkCOk9E.
Fuz
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Can't watch now, can someone summarize what he's saying about the downgrade?
That's at least a bit more honest. But he's essentially saying comparing trailers or screens or other bits and pieces of an unfinished game to its completed version is unfair. I wonder who released those pieces though?
Anyway, basically: you haven't seen the game until a certain point in development rolls around. Early trailers are not the game, early screens are not the game. They're just highly modified marketing sizzle.
Shocking.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
He's basically saying that it's unfair to compare trailers and gameplay since 1. the game isn't in a completely playable state yet ("there was no grade to downgrade from" is what he specifically says) and 2. the circumstances in trailers are "handcrafted" meaning that you have perfect lighting, perfect camera angles, perfect shots, super high resoution, post processing. If you want to see how the game actually looks you should look at gameplay demos which he said they released enough of.
Fuz
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Thanks guys.
Well, no suprise here. I expected PR talk that doesn't really touches the issue.
Basically what the old insider said, no?
Well, no suprise here. I expected PR talk that doesn't really touches the issue.
Basically what the old insider said, no?
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