Laevateinn
Member
if Sony uses kickstarter to help offset funding for weird games I want that have no potential for release otherwise then Sony, or anyone else can do that. As long as I get Shenmue, I don't care what it required to get that done.
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Sony is officially helping with funding and development with Shenmue 3
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I think it's fair enough people are a little upset about Sony not being entirely transparent here. At the end of the day, Sony knew what they were doing and whether we've been played or not, we're all still buying Shenmue III. Sony should have been honest, but everyone has to keep a few secrets for themselves...
To decide whether or not Sony is punished, I say we choose one nominee to represent GAF and challenge Sony's President to a game of
To decide whether or not Sony is punished, I say we choose one nominee to represent GAF and challenge Sony's President to a game of
monopoly
Yu and Adam could have locked the doors, gone chair to chair and forced everyone in the room to cough up a hundred bucks minimum into a bag, and i'm pretty sure i could have lived with the moral consequences.
ohh you seen any "high quality" trailers? I got like a 100p vid of it from maybe 6-7 years ago. Seriously, that was really low quality and grainy as fuck
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yep.
The only one I can say is an exception this year is Ori.
But for the most part... Sony's box is well known for these types of games.
LlamaJohnson
Member
Sooooooooo am I the only Xbox guy upset about this? I'm thinking that I need a PS4 now. I thought that Sony would end up funding this by showing it at E3, but part of me still held out hope that it would be multi platform. Oh well.
Yes. Like some others, I've never played a Shenmue but backed this because 1) I want this type of franchise revival to succeed and 2) there's a fair chance I might actually like the game given its pedigree. But when I extrapolate this scenario to, say, Masato Kato wanting to start a Chrono Break Kickstarter, me pledging $100, then SE coming in to fund, do I feel cheated? HELL NO. I'm getting a goddamn Collector's Edition of Chrono Break with a Kato-signed lithogram of Frog, and I was one of the people that made it happen!
It just passes the smell test to me. If companies start exploiting this for franchises that clearly would have continued anyway, we can then have the discussion of drawing the line.
Not here. Not with Shenmue, or any other franchise clearly in desperate need of pledged fan support to assure publishers of interest.
cutmeamango
Banned
I was hoping to play Shenmue on my Ouya, so this Sony deal kinda blows. :/
mrmickfran
Member
So it's pretty much like a Bayonetta 2 scenario. Does SEGA get any credit with this game?
Not only that, people are actually getting the game in exchange for their money. It's like advanced pre-ordering. Nothing wrong with this. The $2 million practically counts as $2 million in advanced sales, which is what Sony was looking for--a guarantee of at least SOME revenue before they strong arm the long costs of development.
Not sure what's freaking people out.
Now I'm looking forward to Sonic and the Melancholy Unicorn.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I don't disagree necessarily (although I'm sure they're hoping they can build hype for the "return of Shenmue!"), but I wonder how you calculate the value of this kind of thing from a business perspective. It seems like the benefits of this would mostly be brand loyalty and word of mouth stuff passing on how great Sony is for "the gamer."
Amiibo collector simulator.
I wouldn't think so unless they license old Sega games to play like in the first game.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
In particular, the more money they get from Kickstarter, the more leverage Yu has to make what he wants.
Can Crusher
Banned
THE ENDS WOULD HAVE JUSTIFIED THE MEANS
Ryo Hazuki
Member
Always some motherfucker trying to keep me in that cave.
Testify
I made that Shia Last Guardian gif, even though I have never played ICO or SoTC, I just wanted those guys to see that game on stage again.
Its a good feeling when you see other people are happy. Its a contagious feeling.
Exactly, just go to ShenmueDojo, people are even more happy to know that Sony is behind this, because that means there's a big publisher and it's going to happen. It doesn't matter if it's Sony, MS or Nintendo, fans just want this game to become reality.
A Shenmue 3 Kickstarter without the "Sony E3 Conference where TLG, FF VII remake and Shenmue 3 were announced" wouldn't have this success. A proper Shenmue sequel would never happen with solely a Kickstarted budget. No publisher would foot the bill for the Shenmue 3 we deserve without an unequivocal showing that there was a palpable interest in this game. We had 14 years of wait that prove that. So. Here we are.
Well Sony tricked you into giving them a 2 year interest free and non refundable loan.
I know everyone is excited to get the game they want but it is sleazy by Sony.
Sony deserve a standing ovation for this. Fuck the haters.
1. Sony is financially backing 14 year old dead franchise that NOBODY was willing to pick. IF you don't know what is big deal about this, think this way.
MS in their 360 heyday when they basically poured endless money into Japanese market, ignored shenmue. Yeah. shenmue was THAT DEAD, mother fuckers.
Sony didn't have to back this. Hell, if Sony basically ignored all the pleas from shenmue fans and gamers, no one would blame Sony for it. Sony instead can spend that money to make their own IP or resurrect their OWN DEAD IP. But instead they listened to their fans and making bet that they can make profit out of this.
2. Sony doesn't even OWN the IP after financial gamble such as this.
You guys know what this means. Basically if Shenmue3 becomes smashing hit and profitable to make a sequel, there will be dozens publishers (even Sega, LOL) who want to make side project or sequels. Sony can lose entire privilege for console exclusiveness, but they are still willing to take that risk.
If this is not showing good will to gamers, I don't know what it is.
3. Sony doesn't block PC, this is huge.
1. Sony is financially backing 14 year old dead franchise that NOBODY was willing to pick. IF you don't know what is big deal about this, think this way.
MS in their 360 heyday when they basically poured endless money into Japanese market, ignored shenmue. Yeah. shenmue was THAT DEAD, mother fuckers.
Sony didn't have to back this. Hell, if Sony basically ignored all the pleas from shenmue fans and gamers, no one would blame Sony for it. Sony instead can spend that money to make their own IP or resurrect their OWN DEAD IP. But instead they listened to their fans and making bet that they can make profit out of this.
2. Sony doesn't even OWN the IP after financial gamble such as this.
You guys know what this means. Basically if Shenmue3 becomes smashing hit and profitable to make a sequel, there will be dozens publishers (even Sega, LOL) who want to make side project or sequels. Sony can lose entire privilege for console exclusiveness, but they are still willing to take that risk.
If this is not showing good will to gamers, I don't know what it is.
3. Sony doesn't block PC, this is huge.
Laevateinn
Member
It is multiplatform. You can play it on PC.
I had such a sick collection in Shenmue I. I was actually pretty upset that I had to continue on the Xbox and they just gave you all of them from the get go. I actually took up collecting them.
I also had a pretty well rounded move list learned.
I would love to be able to import one single save from Shenmue I to Shenmue III somehow.
Flying Toaster
Member
Sony you know what you have to do next:
Fund this NOW!
Fund this NOW!
orthodoxy1095
Banned
How is this a loan? They didn't borrow money from me. We paid them money with the expectation of a return in services.
thelastword
Banned
Lol, at this point it's just shameful really. Hating that a game got funded that we've been begging for 15 years because your platform of choice is excluded. If it is that you want to be so butthurt about it and you love this game so much, then simply buy the console where it's at and play. If not, it's mostly fake concern. There are people who have pledged much more than $400.00 to see this thing happen and now you want to sit back and be mad because they've invested in something they love. This is the most selfish reaction I've seen in these system wars for a minute. The games are more important than the platform....I'd rather games get made than not as opposed to holding on to some stupid platform pride.
Seriously though, wow...this faux outrage is amazing to me.
People have said for years that they would do whatever to get a new sequel.
Now there is some seriously suspicious cranky feelings going on.
You can also get a PC to play it. I really doubt that Shenmue 3 will require a top of the line PC to play when it releases.
If the PS4 acquisition is about money I feel for you, but if it's not don't worry the PS4 won't give you cooties or anything.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Of course they're happy. Any reasonable person would know that $2 million is not nearly enough money to make this game. Hell, it's likely that $20 million won't cut it, either.
Having the assurance that a big publisher like Sony, who has a history of funding more niche passion projects and announced a game like The Last Guardian in the same conference, is willing to assist in the funding is a major relief to anyone who wants to see Shenmue III done right.
I love how it took him barely a second to realize what it was. He has given us one hour of Bossman stand up.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Console producer gets an exclusive game that they're financially backing...and you're upset about it? Halo 5 looks tight as hell, but I have a PS4 and PC, am I mad bro? Not at all.
Sony did us all a favor. Anyone who's upset about this can fuck off.
Laevateinn
Member
It was getting to the point where I would be willing to sacrifice small animals to Dagon to get it released.
BoboBrazil
Member
Exactly. Can we kickstart a new Parappa please?!
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I was that way last night, and I still am that way today. I've had a stupid grin on my face ever since the announcement that it's finally fucking happening!
Aenima
Member
Easy, ppl is salty cuz of the hopes. Even if kickstarter say 500 times that the game will be released for PS4 and PC they had hope MS or Nintendo jumped with money to put the game on those consoles. Now that they know Sony is behind the Shenmue 3 revival, they are salty. But without Sony there was no game. Period.
Also without the backers, as they was the kickstarters to give green light for Sony to move forward with the partnership with YsNet (Yu Suzuki team)
I've got investments elsewhere. $300 not earning me interest will be ok I hope. I mean interest on $300... I think I'd see my return of $.01 in about 2 years?
lmao 10/10
Steve Youngblood
Member
Well, assuming this winds up being a AAA retail release (which I assume it is), the basic $29 commitment will probably still result in a discount even if you factor in interest.
maquiladora
Member
Tom Clancy's ShadowFunding
goldenpp72
Member
I own both an Xbox one and a PS4, but any real Shenmue fan would likely buy any console to play that game even if it's an annoyance. I'll be honest, if I was told I had to pay 500 dollars to get a legit Shenmue III i'd do it in a heart beat, I simply don't think I have to
What ? You know that Games at Kickstarter are mostly an idea. You have no guarantee whatsoever and you know that. A lot of those games get canned and your money is lost. You do not have to fund anything. Your choice. Thats why this is just for hardcore fan. And if you like it their fee is the financial risk they take and that they give you a game that will most likely be 60$ for 30.
Fantastic and obvious news, there's no way Shenmue 3 would be anywhere near what it deserves to be with a goal of only 2 million, if it could even be made at all, yet that was the goal.
Sony wanted to see that we'll put our money where our mouth is, which is honestly very fair considering that the first two games are financial failures. We even get the finished game for our trouble at the $29.00 tier, essentially a pre-order at half-retail price. I'm totally fine waiting a few years, hell Kingdom Hearts 3 at $40.00 is tying up my Amazon credit for god knows how long, but I'm glad I got in on that. It's perplexing seeing people act like there's a downside here.
Sony wanted to see that we'll put our money where our mouth is, which is honestly very fair considering that the first two games are financial failures. We even get the finished game for our trouble at the $29.00 tier, essentially a pre-order at half-retail price. I'm totally fine waiting a few years, hell Kingdom Hearts 3 at $40.00 is tying up my Amazon credit for god knows how long, but I'm glad I got in on that. It's perplexing seeing people act like there's a downside here.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Good guy Sony!
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
I'm just happy that Sony pulled the strings to make the seemingly impossible actually a real thing. Happily backed, as Shenmue on DC was one of those keystone games for me.
Weird that people are upset though.
Weird that people are upset though.
Yeah, this opening another option for us fans to decide the fate of our favorite?
Why the hell we dislike option?
then let those higher up corporate with ties decide everything like what happened to Megaman Legend 3?
Are you seriously gonna tell me this is not refreshing option? some people just not realize how clueless they are.
And again, if Suikoden ever given similar shot to prove fan enthusiasm I'm so all over it.
Windom Earle
Member
That is awesome of you!
I don't think any bank will even give you a penny with $29 dollars deposited after 2 years.
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