kick starter plserinoSounds pretty much like SFV, sans Kickstarter. I wonder if Sega is also supplying funds.
Pretty ironic to see Shenmue 3 having a high chance becoming a reality, while Mega Man Legends 3 died a dogs death.
kick starter plserinoSounds pretty much like SFV, sans Kickstarter. I wonder if Sega is also supplying funds.
Pretty ironic to see Shenmue 3 having a high chance becoming a reality, while Mega Man Legends 3 died a dogs death.
yes! Yu Suzuki you sly! you should have continued to try to find a new publisher after 14 years instead of taking Sony's evil deal! Where is your integrity! What about those poor shenmue fans who only had a Xbox One and cant buy a PS4 or play it on PC for religious reasons...
No, Yu Suzuki tried to find a publisher, but none of those had faith in the fans, even Sony. But they gave him a way to show them that faith. You are helping Yu Suzuki showing Sony that they can trust the faith.What a stupid post.
Starting the game with Kick Starter funding and later transitioning to be supported by a publisher is not unusual for Kick Starter projects. Yu Suzuki, clearly, didn't have faith in the fan base being there.
I said I'm buying it on PC. Your lack of reading comprehension led you to that lame attempt at humor snd it was unnecessary. Simple fact is, unlike Playstation owners, Xbox owners begged for Shenmue and were rewarded with Shenmue 1&2 on the OG Xbox. It would be nice if 3 was there also.
The only thing that is slightly odd about this arrangement is that if Sony are supporting it then why are they not publishing it at first-party on PS4 with a physical release? It's not an issue for me since I'm happy with digital but I know a lot of people still want a boxed version.
So you prefer no game?
Adam Boyes made it very clear that Sony isn't funding the entire game. They're supportive of it, and want to help it happen, but it would have taken a long time to put together the resources needed to make the game because as a business they would have to do research and make justifications. Instead Yu Suzuki wanted to go ahead with a Kickstarter and they gave him the best platform to make the announcement. The project is moving forward because the Kickstarter is successful. Sony is providing funding and marketing support for the project, but this isn't their project.
What a stupid post.
Starting the game with Kick Starter funding and later transitioning to be supported by a publisher is not unusual for Kick Starter projects. Yu Suzuki, clearly, didn't have faith in the fan base being there.
I said I'm buying it on PC. Your lack of reading comprehension led you to that lame attempt at humor snd it was unnecessary. Simple fact is, unlike Playstation owners, Xbox owners begged for Shenmue and were rewarded with Shenmue 1&2 on the OG Xbox. It would be nice if 3 was there also.
Lol, it absolutely does not. Investors invest with expectations of getting richer. People kickstart to get a game cheaper. Devs responsibilities are to investors first. Different expectations. Different experiences.
We prefer transparency; this should've been clear from the start, not to mention that Sony has plenty of money to invest and will capitalize immensely from this, especially since it's console exclusive, heck that makes it worse, companies have to pay for this sort of privilege.
I wonder though. Wouldn't it be a full exclusive and announced as such if they were fully footing the bill ? I really believe that this kickstarter isn't only to gather reception from people but also building the game.
Adam Boyes made it very clear that Sony isn't funding the entire game. They're supportive of it, and want to help it happen, but it would have taken a long time to put together the resources needed to make the game because as a business they would have to do research and make justifications. Instead Yu Suzuki wanted to go ahead with a Kickstarter and they gave him the best platform to make the announcement. The project is moving forward because the Kickstarter is successful. Sony is providing funding and marketing support for the project, but this isn't their project.
We prefer transparency; this should've been clear from the start, not to mention that Sony has plenty of money to invest and will capitalize immensely from this, especially since it's console exclusive, heck that makes it worse, companies have to pay for this sort of privilege.
Simple fact is, unlike Playstation owners, Xbox owners begged for Shenmue and were rewarded with Shenmue 1&2 on the OG Xbox. It would be nice if 3 was there also.
Sony helps resurrect long dead much beloved franchise. Gaffers get mad.
What a stupid post.
Starting the game with Kick Starter funding and later transitioning to be supported by a publisher is not unusual for Kick Starter projects. Yu Suzuki, clearly, didn't have faith in the fan base being there.
I said I'm buying it on PC. Your lack of reading comprehension led you to that lame attempt at humor snd it was unnecessary. Simple fact is, unlike Playstation owners, Xbox owners begged for Shenmue and were rewarded with Shenmue 1&2 on the OG Xbox. It would be nice if 3 was there also.
Adam Boyes made it very clear that Sony isn't funding the entire game. They're supportive of it, and want to help it happen, but it would have taken a long time to put together the resources needed to make the game because as a business they would have to do research and make justifications. Instead Yu Suzuki wanted to go ahead with a Kickstarter and they gave him the best platform to make the announcement. The project is moving forward because the Kickstarter is successful. Sony is providing funding and marketing support for the project, but this isn't their project.
Adam Boyes made it very clear that Sony isn't funding the entire game. They're supportive of it, and want to help it happen, but it would have taken a long time to put together the resources needed to make the game because as a business they would have to do research and make justifications. Instead Yu Suzuki wanted to go ahead with a Kickstarter and they gave him the best platform to make the announcement. The project is moving forward because the Kickstarter is successful. Sony is providing funding and marketing support for the project, but this isn't their project.
Use the Kickstarter to get the whale money, then fund the game like normal for Sony. Kickstarter needs to start changing its policies to make this sort of behaviour unallowed.
People still mad? Cool story...GAF is disgusting sometimes.
Well, I hope someone comes along and abuses me with Wizardry, Silent Hills and other great neglected franchises. I have so much money to be ripped out of my hands
Use the Kickstarter to get the whale money, then fund the game like normal for Sony. Kickstarter needs to start changing its policies to make this sort of behaviour unallowed.
Use the Kickstarter to get the whale money, then fund the game like normal for Sony. Kickstarter needs to start changing its policies to make this sort of behaviour unallowed.
So you prefer no game?
I look at it is like this:
Shenmue 3 has been looking for publishers and a method of funding for years. Obviously no one has taken to the plate, probably as, "No one remembers Shenmue," "It's only wanted from a vocal minority," "Financial loss," etc.
Sony heard the fans, but like many others probably was hesitant to put millions of dollars here, so to prove investment, it's asked for fans to "Put their money where their mouth is," which is probably the only way Shenmue 3 was going to show there were people who'd actually buy the thing rather than taking a blind risk worth millions of dollars.
Fans gets the game for a cheaper-than-retail price and get to be involved in active development and feedback of the game, as well as get goodies. Yu gets to have data that fans will support Shenmue and gets a platform to interact with his core fan base more closely. Sony gets sales date and 'proof' of worth to be able to put some funding into it.
There literally is no lose here for anyone involved, they're even being transparent of this fact in less than 24 hours since the Kickstarter launched, no money has been taken yet and there's plenty of weeks to think on it and let people who want to be part be part. The only people that are upset are those that want to be upset or take issue asking, "What's the point, this feels slimey," not knowing the purpose of the term "Kickstarter" and not understanding why Sony, 'couldn't just fund it themselves.' It's not couldn't here, it's wouldn't, because there is very slim chance this game will sell like hotcakes, and they know that, this is likely going to be coming up as a loss for them, BUT it allows something fans really want to happen, and allows fans to both be more directly involved AND put their money where their mouth is to support and prove there's interest, while getting goodies and lower prices for those who want them and want to support.
This wouldn't work with every game, but it makes sense for Shenmue 3, and if they didn't do it this way, then it'd probably wouldn't happen. It's also probably the smartest way to tackle, "Shenmue 3", honestly, rather than making it hush-hush anyways. Shenmue 3 is happening because of fan demand, so get the fans involved, and those involved can help leave feedback and relay stuff directly to the creators and the team, as well as answer questions the team wants to know about going forward with the fans.
Because there was no "3rd Party" who would fund/back it.Why is this the go-to response whenever someone doesn't prefer that console manufacturers fund games? Why can't we prefer funding from a third-party so everyone can play it instead?
But no, of course not, that guy must just want the game to not exist instead.
Jesus Christ, people will bitch and complain about anything. You're getting the game less than retail after waiting almost 15 years for it. There's nothing shady about this, you voted with your wallet which carries more weight than stupid internet polls or general interest. As much as we like to see Sony "making dreams come true" in this situation, it's a business at the end of the day. You wanted it and you got the game for less than $30 instead of retail.
Why is this the go-to response whenever someone doesn't prefer that console manufacturers fund games? Why can't we prefer funding from a third-party so everyone can play it instead?
But no, of course not, that guy must just want the game to not exist instead.
This could have started off as a pure Kickstarter development project and found a 3rd party publisher willing to fund it and put it on PC, Xbox One and PS4.
The the kick starter campaign to gauge gamer interest is bs. Anyone in this forum could've guessed the outcome to a Kick Starter campaign for Shenmue 3. "The fastest to 2 million for a video game Kick Starter", no shit Sherlock.
The Kick Starter could've been for 20 million and it would've found the funding.
No matter, ill be getting it on PC and I'm definitely grateful for that.
Because there was no "3rd Party" who would fund/back it.
What a stupid post.
Starting the game with Kick Starter funding and later transitioning to be supported by a publisher is not unusual for Kick Starter projects. Yu Suzuki, clearly, didn't have faith in the fan base being there.
I said I'm buying it on PC. Your lack of reading comprehension led you to that lame attempt at humor snd it was unnecessary. Simple fact is, unlike Playstation owners, Xbox owners begged for Shenmue and were rewarded with Shenmue 1&2 on the OG Xbox. It would be nice if 3 was there also.
If it's popular enough to insert into their E3 conference- where every minute is extremely valuable to make the best use of that stage- then it's popular enough to not have to resort to plugging a Kickstarter for it.
The real value of having Shenmue in the conference is to show that Sony has the pulse of the enthusiasts.
Its not a question about needing the money in many of these cases though, its more a question about risking money. Many games dont get localized for example, eventhough that the companies clearly have the money to do it. Nintendo could easily afford to localize Mother 3 just to take one example of a sought after game, but they wont do it. They dont do it because they dont think its worth it.The last Shenmue cost 70million... 2 million is a drop in the bucket. The only conclusion is that this funding wasn't entirely necessary for development.
I'm sure microsoft is applauding their ability to charge a product this early in development.
I don't think the significance of a PC release means much in this regard. It isn't like the team has zero say on release platforms and likely did not want to release solely on consoles.
I think they could do a new Shenmue for less.The last Shenmue cost 70million... 2 million is a drop in the bucket. The only conclusion is that this funding wasn't entirely necessary for development.
True, but the question is if any other 3rd party were standing in line to publish Shenmue 3. I dont think that there was any fighting between publishers to publish Shenmue 3 and Sony fought their way through and won the rights to it. I think the notion is that if Sony hadnt done this regarding Shenmue 3, no one else would have, and the game wouldnt have been made.Why is this the go-to response whenever someone doesn't prefer that console manufacturers fund games? Why can't we prefer funding from a third-party so everyone can play it instead?
But no, of course not, that guy must just want the game to not exist instead.
Because there was no "3rd Party" who would fund/back it.
It's the lesser of two evils for me.
It's either, these games don't exist at all since many publishers only seem to care about mobile or they use this method.
I'm not sure why you seem to care - you don't have to put any money up front. If it works out then you get the game without investment - if not, no loss to you. What's the problem?
I said prefer. I understand the reality of this particular situation and that most games require funding that Microsoft or Sony would provide.
It's more of an off-topic complaint that whenever someone voices concern over console manufacturers funding games, a bunch of other people just respond with "OH CLEARLY YOU JUST WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE THE GAME?"
Happened in the P.T. thread as well.
EDIT: I now realize that this post was poorly timed considered all the mudslinging from both sides here.