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Warner Brothers suspends [new] purchases for PC version of Batman Arkham Knight

So, what now? The weekend is upon us and we haven't heard anything from them since the 24th. Such utter bullshit.

I probably won't flip out until the end of next week and we don't get an update.

Havent seen anything posted from people who would know progress, I've just been keeping my eye on this : https://steamdb.info/app/208650/history/

Doesnt say so much about an ETA of course, but just encouraging to see work is being done it at least.

Yeah I believe they're serious about fixing the game, but for me there needs to be more. If I had known there was a PC delay I might have opted for the ps4 version and gotten the preorder bonus + sale prices. Now I get neither and a broken game.
 

hlhbk

Member
Da hell is this nonsense? I like how you've come to this conclusion based on this PC port which is possibly the result of numerious circumstances we know nothing about.

Delays, deadlines, and pushing a product out the door when it's not ready are the most likely culprits here. Not the motivation of the porting studio.

Are you forgetting that Iron Galaxy did the beautiful PC Port for Bioshock Infinite? Such a gorgeous game, and it ran great. They know UE3 well enough.

Maybe Batman Arkham Knight deserves a publisher that "has a love for the product instead of a paycheck motivation." (lol)

You do realize Bioshock Infinite was also broken at launch right??? The stuttering was tterrible and myself and other members of the community had to rally together to get irrational to finally admit there was an issue and a fixed version wasn't released until 8 weeks later.
 

Tovarisc

Member
~3h ago;
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https://twitter.com/Seftonhill/status/614555527830466562
 

mm04

Member
This is shades of the NBA Elite 11 Jesus Bynum problem...except EA cancelled the game before it was actually released. I work in application development and I can't imagine the amount of sheepish looks around the office knowing they were releasing a piece of shit. A high profile one at that.
 
You guys see this? Not sure if true but it makes sense.

From Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/BatmanArkham/comments/3b84jf/unofficialgameshop_employee_confirmed_that/

So, I went to a local store (GameShop) where I bought a Razer Sabertooth and it was squeaking and I wanted to complain. Anyway I casually brought up that I tried the controller with Arkham Knight and we started to talk about the game and the current situation.

Out of curiosity I asked what was their store's policy on the whole Arkham Knight fiasco. He looked up the e-mail with the instructions that they received from the higher-ups. He said the following:

all physical copies need to be taken down from the shelves
anyone who purchased a PC copy from that store, and has the receipt, is eligible for a full refund (not store credit, game change, full refund in cash)
all physical copies that the store has needs to be shipped back to the publisher! 1
anyone who doesn't refund the game accepts the purchase and is eligible for a free Season Pass or a free Warner Bros. game.

(There were other instructions regarding the game, but I didn't pay attention since it was more specific employee work stuff)

I asked about specifically about the Season Pass, stating there is no official news about that, is he certain? He said that's what the e-mail says and these are his newest informations.

1 This is huge if true! This probably means that the version they shipped is unpatchable or would be more even more trouble to patch. They will need to build a whole new build and manufacture that. Holy shit!

2 There is a list from which the costumer can choose his new game, so I'm guessing not all Warner Bros. games will be available.
I believe the guy did not make that up, he read it from said email which I saw.
Obviously take these with a grain of salt until there is an official statement.
 
I'll probably just take the season patch. I'm still in shock this is happening though. Like what did they think would happen if they had released the pc version.
 

SparkTR

Member
I'd be okay with a season pass or a free game. Provided they get it patched, I wasn't planning on putting time into this game for a few weeks anyway. A free game would be a nice bonus to see.
 

prophecy0

Member
You guys see this? Not sure if true but it makes sense.

If true, what does that mean for those of us that bought the premium edition (I jumped on the GMG deal)? Do we just get a free WB game? I'm conflicted over whether I should get a refund on the game and buy it on PS4, or just wait this whole mess out. I'm currently preoccupied with TW3 anyway...
 

KingBroly

Banned
Well, crap.

Wonder what that means for us Season Pass holders.

One would think Season Pass holders are also eligible for a refund.

If it were me, I'd take a free Season Pass, assuming they fix it.

But this is starting to sound like the worst port of a game...probably ever. The only time I ever remember a game being recalled was Tales of Graces for the Wii in Japan.
 

Corpekata

Banned
Not sure I'd buy that Gamestop story. Sending them back because they need a new build? It isn't like we haven't seen retail games need a jillion gigs of patches anyway so that seems like an unneeded cost for WB to take onto themselves. It's not like you'd be able to play the game without going onto Steam and knowing there's patches since it's not DRM free.

I guess I can kinda see GS wanting to be rid of them and it's just part of recouping some of their costs since it's not like retail PC is a big deal for them, especially far from release date. I'd imagine most of their PC sales are pre-order and early business.
 

KingBroly

Banned
Not sure I'd buy that Gamestop story. Sending them back because they need a new build? It isn't like we haven't seen retail games need a jillion gigs of patches anyway so that seems like an unneeded cost for WB to take onto themselves. It's not like you'd be able to play the game without going onto Steam and knowing there's patches since it's not DRM free.

Well...if they take the patch/dlc down at some point, the game is broken again with no way to fix it.

Gaming Disaster of the Year right here.
 
Not sure I'd buy that Gamestop story. Sending them back because they need a new build? It isn't like we haven't seen retail games need a jillion gigs of patches anyway so that seems like an unneeded cost for WB to take onto themselves. It's not like you'd be able to play the game without going onto Steam and knowing there's patches since it's not DRM free.

I guess I can kinda see GS wanting to be rid of them and it's just part of recouping some of their costs since it's not like retail PC is a big deal for them, especially far from release date. I'd imagine most of their PC sales are pre-order and early business.

What if the retail boxes have the name of the outsourced developer on it and they've since been replaced? Is that a reason to withdraw the one or two copies that get sent to each gamestop? I don't know...
 

SlickVic

Member
I would've never imagined this to be the case. I just got into PC gaming last year and just have an entry level 750 Ti and Bioshock Infinite runs like a dream. I hope with refunds these unacceptable issues at launch stop happening.

I don't think that was nearly as widespread an issue at this one. I played Bioshock Infinite on a laptop with a GTX 260M at launch without any of those issues.
 
Question is, would they extend any sort of compensation to people who have the game because they bought an 900 series NVIDIA card. I'm sure I'm not the only one who pulled the trigger on upgrading because of the games, Arkham Knight was the one that pushed me over the edge.
 
Re: People who keep saying this is the worst PC port of all time -

Resident Evil 4 shipped without a lighting engine.

If you really think this is the worst port ever, your scope is extremely limited.
 

Corpekata

Banned
Question is, would they extend any sort of compensation to people who have the game because they bought an 900 series NVIDIA card. I'm sure I'm not the only one who pulled the trigger on upgrading because of the games, Arkham Knight was the one that pushed me over the edge.

If they're doing some sort of recompense, they'll likely just give it to all Steam owners regardless of where you got it, just because it would be a lot easier that way.

I'd bet on the Unity model. Season pass for everyone, anyone that owned the season pass can choose a free game.


Well, maybe not full season pass, as even Unity didn't include that with the AC china game existing. Probably the Batgirl campaign.
 

Dysun

Member
Just ordered the parts to build my gaming PC and this game is coming free as a voucher..Will I be able to play it?

Depends on the rig I suppose. I'm running the game fine at 30FPS with limited drops (Batmobile) and not a single crash yet after 15 hours. It's missing some textures and features that the console versions have but it's playable (for me)
 

vocab

Member
Re: People who keep saying this is the worst PC port of all time -

Resident Evil 4 shipped without a lighting engine.

If you really think this is the worst port ever, your scope is extremely limited.

Worst AAA port. I mean Deadly premonition might be my personal worst pc port of all time, but batman is easily up there with GTAIV.
 

mitchlol

Member
Does everyone remember the Digital Foundry analysis of borderlands 2 for Vita...... That was also Iron Galaxy... if you watch the video on youtube you can see the framerate going as low as 12fps and averaging around 20fps...... How are Iron Galaxy still in business?


I'll leave this here for anyone who wants to see evidence of the fine work done at Iron Galaxy Studios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBj_A2OutJ4
 

Omega

Banned
anyone who doesn't refund the game accepts the purchase and is eligible for a free Season Pass or a free Warner Bros. game.

if that part is legit, hopefully Mad Max is one of the titles but I doubt it.
 
Does everyone remember the Digital Foundry analysis of borderlands 2 for Vita...... That was also Iron Galaxy... if you watch the video on youtube you can see the framerate going as low as 12fps and averaging around 20fps...... How are Iron Galaxy still in business?


I'll leave this here for anyone who wants to see evidence of the fine work done at Iron Galaxy Studios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBj_A2OutJ4

If you want to prove that Iron Galaxy is a shitty developer, BL2 Vita is a really, really weak example, given that (a) it's running on a platform much less powerful than anything BL2 was originally designed to run on, and (b) it's running on an engine poorly optimized for Vita, in native resolution no less (which I don't believe any other UE3 game on the platform does).

I really doubt any other studio could have done a significantly better job.
 
If you want to prove that Iron Galaxy is a shitty developer, BL2 Vita is a really, really weak example, given that (a) it's running on a platform much less powerful than anything BL2 was originally designed to run on, and (b) it's running on an engine poorly optimized for Vita, in native resolution no less (which I don't believe any other UE3 game on the platform does).

I really doubt any other studio could have done a significantly better job.
Yeah, Borderlands 2 Vita was just a bad idea conceptually and seemed like the only reason it happened was because either the fans bugged the developers about it enough or the developer over promised it originally (I forget which it was).

The fact it ran at all is somewhat impressive.
 
Does everyone remember the Digital Foundry analysis of borderlands 2 for Vita...... That was also Iron Galaxy... if you watch the video on youtube you can see the framerate going as low as 12fps and averaging around 20fps...... How are Iron Galaxy still in business?


I'll leave this here for anyone who wants to see evidence of the fine work done at Iron Galaxy Studios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBj_A2OutJ4
it's the fucking vita

be glad it even runs at all
 

dugdug

Banned
I'm new to PC gaming, so, apologies if this is a dumb question, but, how are key resellers still selling this game? I can't imagine the codes even work if the game was actually pulled from Steam.
 

Joeku

Member
What makes you think this fan boy bullshit contributes to the conversation in any way?

Also, Killzone Mercenaries called to tell you you're wrong.

It's not fanboy shit, it's telling you that a big AAA open-world UE3 game is not going to work well, if at all, on the Vita's hardware. Multi-core problems, largely, I believe.
 

Adnor

Banned
I'm new to PC gaming, so, apologies if this is a dumb question, but, how are key resellers still selling this game? I can't imagine the codes even work if the game was actually pulled from Steam.

The game's still on Steam, if I uninstall it I can download it again. The generated keys still work, you just can't buy it directly from Steam or stores that have stopped selling the game.
 

vocab

Member
Resident Evil 4, a mainline entry of one of gaming's biggest franchises, developed by Capcom and ported by Ubisoft is pretty much the definition of AAA.

Japanese PC ports were shit and had no standard when that one came out. I mean. RE3 had a pc port. Its terrible. DMC3. Terrible. There was no expectation other than wishing it was better. MT Framework/MGS5GZ set the bar for japanese pc ports. We have comparisons to draw from.
 

MightyKAC

Member
I think they mean the game clearly wasn't intended to be ported to a handheld.


It's not fanboy shit, it's telling you that a big AAA open-world UE3 game is not going to work well, if at all, on the Vita's hardware. Multi-core problems, largely, I believe.

Oh, to be sure it was a shit port, but to claim that it's mediocrity comes from the solely from the Vita is pretty dubious when you look at actual good examples of Vita programming.

But alas, I'm derailing, so I'll apologize and see myself out.
 
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