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Shenmue III Kickstarter Q&A streaming on Twitch

lol i didn't get to see it. what made the stream so bad?

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ZenTzen

Member
ok what i got from this
- They are seriously thinking about getting us a physical PS4 release and tell us just to be patient.
- Paypal is being considered, will probably be implemented later
- You get to take on the 4 Chiyoumen bosses
- Skill Tree System is for building up martial arts abilities (linked to scrolls).
- Character Perspective System lets you play as Shenhua and Ren in Baisha.
- Shenmue 3 wont finish the story, which i'm actually happy with, i dont want Yu to rush this even if we are put on a cliffhanger for another 14 years,
really hoping Shenmue 3 is successfull

is there any other stuff i'm missing
 
Wow so it's over. Hard to put my thoughts into words right now. A train wreck in many ways from a visual, audio and pure presentation point of view.

Redshirt really was the centre of attention. However he did ask the pertinent questions fans/community has been asking for and we got updates on some of those major questions.

However I really got to wonder about Awesome Japan and frankly unless this guy turns into a meme/goes vital it's not going to help the KS campaign much

We need to make this happen. Any publicity is good publicity!
 

Loudninja

Member
ok what i got from this
- They are seriously thinking about getting us a physical PS4 release and tell us just to be patient.
- Paypal is being considered, will probably be implemented later
- You get to take on the 4 Chiyoumen bosses
- Skill Tree System is for building up martial arts abilities (linked to scrolls).
- Character Perspective System lets you play as Shenhua and Ren in Baisha.
- Shenmue 3 wont finish the story, which i'm actually happy with, i dont want Yu to rush this even if we are put on a cliffhanger for another 14 years,
really hoping Shenmue 3 is successfull

is there any other stuff i'm missing
Thank you.

Some good info here.
 

JDSN

Banned
Now I understand why this KS is so terrible, poor Yu, but on the other hand this says a lot about his managing skills.
 
I've cancelled my pledge. I'm sorry but this stream was suppose to instill trust and confidence to those who already pledged or newcomers, and I leave from this event feeling the exact opposite.

That's kinda harsh, I mean as soon as the KS is over Crappy Japan is out of the picture and Ys Net will get the job done no matter what, that we can be sure of.
 
That Q &A session doesn't instill any confidence for Shenmue 3. Besides repeating things that were already said, maybe he was too nervous? I got a good laugh out of it. I hope Yu Suzuki drops them and go with someone else.
 
I disagree frankly. If THAT guy is their representative, if he's on the team arranging much of the KS details and announcements etc, it's a fucking calamity. I just thought he was some kind of uber fan been asked on to do this, not intricately involved with the KS campaign. They need Sony to come in, take control, and boss the motherfucker to $10 million (or just bloody fund the remaining few million required to make it so, can't be so hard!).

If Sony comes in, that's a different story.

But clearly at this moment, they don't have any alternatives. And Ys Net most likely has no English-speaking PR expert among their staff, it's all been outsourced to AJ.

As bad as AJ has been, at least they've done the bare terrible minimum which is update KS, respond to backer questions, set-up this terrible stream, etc.

There's absolutely no guarantee that if they're fired today, Ys Net will be equipped to even do the bare minimum that AJ was doing. No updates is worse than some updates.
 

master15

Member
Well, on the plus side, it jumped close to $20,000 just during the hour the stream was on. That's something at least.

Now we just have to hope that the guy on the right goes viral and brings a lot of attention to the Kickstarter in the next couple of days.

Someone needs to upload this to Youtube and hope it becomes the Konami E3 conference. It's up there in terms of cringe levels.
 
ok what i got from this
- They are seriously thinking about getting us a physical PS4 release and tell us just to be patient.
- Paypal is being considered, will probably be implemented later
- You get to take on the 4 Chiyoumen bosses
- Skill Tree System is for building up martial arts abilities (linked to scrolls).
- Character Perspective System lets you play as Shenhua and Ren in Baisha.
- Shenmue 3 wont finish the story, which i'm actually happy with, i dont want Yu to rush this even if we are put on a cliffhanger for another 14 years,
really hoping Shenmue 3 is successfull

is there any other stuff i'm missing

New reward tiers at the $1,000, $2,000 and $5,000 levels as well, and more planned.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
It's true.

Marketing services like Kickstarter support services (PR, communication with backers, application, language, the whole package basically), media coverage support, localisation and market research.

Horrible. That's not even funny. After waiting for 14 years, these guys have the potential to seriously hurt the campaign. That was so unprofessional, I don't have the right words to describe it. I have zero confidence in their capabilities to manage the kickstarter.
 

Bashtee

Member
Maybe whatever Awesome Japan does works well in Japan, but this stream was just poor. Who knows, perhaps they're working for peanuts. The next one needs to be better though

Probably and I agree, the quality has to improve. However, Shenmue III was dead for over 14 years. Bloodstained was just handled exceptionally well and I think these guys are trying.
Besides, the stream was entertaining
and we got all the good questions asked. Except for additional crowdfunding after kickstarter.
 
So watching the archive cuz I missed the beginning...

...PS4 physical reward....GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME. Jeez louise...
 
I thought you guys were being whiny impatient gamers when you were unsatisfied with how the KS is being managed. But HOLY SHIT! Yeah. I'm not very happy with where I put my money right now.
 
I thought you guys were being whiny impatient gamers when you were unsatisfied with how the KS is being managed. But HOLY SHIT! Yeah. I'm not very happy with where I put my money right now.

Just be happy (and hope) that very little of your money will be going to these guys - it's going to Yu and Ys Net who will make a great game I am sure
 
I thought you guys were being whiny impatient gamers when you were unsatisfied with how the KS is being managed. But HOLY SHIT! Yeah. I'm not very happy with where I put my money right now.
Huh? Why be upset about donating, Yu knows how to make shenmue.

You're not donating to the awesome Japan fund...
 
ok what i got from this
- They are seriously thinking about getting us a physical PS4 release and tell us just to be patient.
- Paypal is being considered, will probably be implemented later
- You get to take on the 4 Chiyoumen bosses
- Skill Tree System is for building up martial arts abilities (linked to scrolls).
- Character Perspective System lets you play as Shenhua and Ren in Baisha.
- Shenmue 3 wont finish the story, which i'm actually happy with, i dont want Yu to rush this even if we are put on a cliffhanger for another 14 years,
really hoping Shenmue 3 is successfull

is there any other stuff i'm missing
This is very helpful. If there was any additional info disclosed, can it be added to the OP?
 

DavidDesu

Member
To be fair I've seen one or two snippets of Kojima broadcasts, and it's similarly odd and disjointed due to translation etc. It did seem far too hastily organised. Could have been smoother, with questions plucked from the internet in advance rather than the dude skimming the chat and trying to remind himself what he needed to ask. It just had that odd delivery style a lot of stuff out of Japan suffers from. The audio echo issues, and then low audio WAS an issue, and I missed a lot of it.

Overall the Kickstarter isn't as polished as anyone would like, considering all this time has passed you'd think they'd formulate a really polished plan. This feels a bit slapdash. Still supporting it and wish I could support it more, I really hope this doesn't negatively affect the KS though.

Really hoping from one final prayer to be answered and just have Sony do what they should have done all along and offer to fund the rest up to the $10 million, as much as they've been adamant that's not the plan.
 

openrob

Member
Is the guy on the right Cedric?


No, Cedric is the Shibuya Productions President & CEO. They are currently producing the new Astroboy TV series.

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This guy works at Awesome Japan. They appear to be a startup that provide consultation on digital marketing. They are running the digital promotion (Kickstarter design, twitch, etc. And probably advising on how to 'maximise' the kickstarter)
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:|

"Cedric Biscay" is the person they said was in charge of the campaign, I thought.

Cedric Biscay is the co-producer of the game, and runs Shibuya Productions. They're handling the PC version of the game.

These guys work for Awesome Japan, and are running the campaign.
 

def sim

Member
I thought you guys were being whiny impatient gamers when you were unsatisfied with how the KS is being managed. But HOLY SHIT! Yeah. I'm not very happy with where I put my money right now.

Yeah, I was surprised as well. I'm watching this now, originally thinking it can't be all that bad, but this twitch stream straight up seems like it's being handled like a lazy school project.
 

javadoze

Member
They seriously should've gone with DDM (Ben Judd's company who helped with the Bloodstained kickstarter) to manage this kickstarter instead of AwesomeJapan.
 
It's interesting to consider: There's "only" 45,990 backers at the time of this post...That's "only" 45,990 units sold...That's sort of wack when you think about it?

I mean, like, here's a list of the million sellers PS1 games:


(Source)

According to Wikipedia, Shenmue moved 1.2 million units on Dreamcast.

Here's some comparable DC game sales figures. Not sure on accuracy (an old Gaming-Age archive):

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/basement/ga-archive/sega-dc-sales-03-04-2003.htm

I'll just pull some randoms with similar sales:

Code:
2044	DC	FERRARI F355 CHALLENGE	Sep-00	ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMENT	3	39,593
1913	DC	STREET FIGHTR 3:DOUBLE	Jun-00	CAPCOM USA	7	54,498
899	DC	PLASMA SWORD	Apr-00	CAPCOM USA	687	50,464
 

Xerotwo

Member
Now I wonder what would have happened if the group that has helped out with Bloodstained's kickstarter also assisted with Shenmue 3's kickstarter....

Right now it looks kind of.... unorganized?
 
If Cedric is the guy on the right, then I'm sorry, but your money has all been smoken for.

He's not. There's even a picture of Cedric Biscay on the Kickstarter page, and he runs a completely different company than these guys are at. I'm not sure why people are even linking the two.
 

master15

Member
ok what i got from this
- They are seriously thinking about getting us a physical PS4 release and tell us just to be patient.
- Paypal is being considered, will probably be implemented later
- You get to take on the 4 Chiyoumen bosses
- Skill Tree System is for building up martial arts abilities (linked to scrolls).
- Character Perspective System lets you play as Shenhua and Ren in Baisha.
- Shenmue 3 wont finish the story, which i'm actually happy with, i dont want Yu to rush this even if we are put on a cliffhanger for another 14 years,
really hoping Shenmue 3 is successfull

is there any other stuff i'm missing

Thanks there was also confirmation Suzuki-san would like to see Shenmue 1 & 2 remastered before release of Shenmue 3 as the rights are owned by Sega he plans on speaking to them.

There was some info about battle scroll techniques but frankly I was confused if it falls under free battle or something else as the translator mentioned QTE so it wasn't clear to me.
 

Jomjom

Banned
Man I wish Sony would at least send some of their guys over to manage their KS for them. Like get Shane and that guy who went over from IGN. Maybe all the guys who handle the PS Blogcast.
 
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