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FemFreq: The pregnancy mechanics in Fallout Shelter are super troubling
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RockTurtle
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i don't want to say officially jumped the shark but...
Storm Raider
Banned
Cringe.
Is that real?
Is that real?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I heard the counter-argument that it exists as part of the overall satire of the values of the time. I'm not entirely sure how much I buy that, or rather while I do buy that that's the intention I'm not sure how much it works
The Lamonster
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lol
I guess she doesn't realize the goal is to "repopulate this great country"
the children also run away from fires, roaches and raiders. so I guess this game is also child-ist?
I guess she doesn't realize the goal is to "repopulate this great country"
the children also run away from fires, roaches and raiders. so I guess this game is also child-ist?
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I expect another fun thread full of personal attacks and "just asking questions". I'm out.
Oppo
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but everything in that game is symbolic
like people don't stand around in the same room all day
i'm more bothered by the haggard look they get, stooped over, when pregnant... but in this scenario, and with this treatment, surely no one actually takes it seriously
they obviously sidestepped having a pregnant woman die to a raider or radroach, but that is ALSO in keeping with the bleak theme. they are too valuable
like people don't stand around in the same room all day
i'm more bothered by the haggard look they get, stooped over, when pregnant... but in this scenario, and with this treatment, surely no one actually takes it seriously
they obviously sidestepped having a pregnant woman die to a raider or radroach, but that is ALSO in keeping with the bleak theme. they are too valuable
RockTurtle
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pregnant woman and children are immortal (for ratings) and don't die. so they run away instead of engaging dangerous situations.
Chief Devin
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No they still work as normal.
If so, that's pretty dumb.
SocksAndShoes
Banned
Apparently context doesn't matter anymore?
floatingcoffins
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damnit, beaten
sixteen-bit
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That's some outdated bullshit. Moms are tough.
I'm not sure their output is technically affected but their animations certainly look less competent.
What is affected is their inability to help during emergencies (fires, attacks) and that's exacerbated by flailing their arms and running in the opposite direction. It sends the message that they're incompetent and not "I had better shield this child from harm"
malingenie
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Context tho.
It's Fallout. 50's values. It fits the narrative.
Also, pregnant women can work up to the second they give birth. That's pretty empowering!
Edit: And yeah... they are immune for (perhaps poor) game design reasons so they would be OP if they could also attack!
toythatkills
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It seems pretty normal to me that a pregnant woman wouldn't go out of her way to put herself in immediate danger, to be honest.
Not sure how it's presented in the game though, I stopped playing very quickly when I realised it was shit, so for sure the arm-flailing sounds needlessly over the top.
ActuallyHulk
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The world has ended. Repopulation must begin, so yes babies need to get made. Also personally if I were pregnant I'd run and hide too because I wouldn't want anything to happen to my unborn child. Also when I played the game the pregnant women were not unreliable at work.
SerTapTap
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For better or worse it's an extremely appropriate translation of the retro-futuristic 50's theme. This should be abundantly clear to most players who understand the setting.
Haven't played the mobile game myself, this seems deliberate in a mocking-the-50s way though. Just because it's in the game doesn't mean the game is advocating it or suggesting it reflects reality.
Haven't played the mobile game myself, this seems deliberate in a mocking-the-50s way though. Just because it's in the game doesn't mean the game is advocating it or suggesting it reflects reality.
Impeccable
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No. They just don't fight fires and get into gun fights.
They work at the same efficiency as men, they just don't do tasks that could put the baby at risk (fighting fires, fighting roaches, going out into the wasteland).
pants
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Fallout guy always gotta be a dick
She disagrees with their portrayal, not their existence.
(Haven't played it and have no stake in this)
Kind of weird that maternal hysteria is used as balancing concept but...there it is.
That's sort of the point though.
Coin Return
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Holy shit, she's turned into a caricature of herself.
Unaha-Closp
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I don't disagree with her as it is silly that the pregnant women armed with railway rifles run away screaming from radroaches but it does fit the 50's cliché of women standing on tables because there is a mouse in the house. Is it overly sexist? Being a man I can't answer that fully I guess.
Your reply is as useless as the replies you're complaining about, though.
And so is mine, I guess.
Hero Prinny
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in all seriousness, you should've put in the title it was her, i would've avoided clicking this thread. its just best to ignore her, she's always hungry for attention
Poodlestrike
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Makes sense, honestly. Setting aside the fact that their unhelpfulness works as a balancing mechanic (they can't die thanks to the game's rating, so if they could help in emergencies they'd be pretty OP), in an environment as unforgiving as the Fallout post-apocalyptic world, reproduction would be hugely important. That's where the whole "women and children first" thing comes from, it's a leftover from when population expansion was our primary concern.
The Lamonster
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Not at all. Their work output is exactly the same as everyone else.
When there are "incidents" like fires, they run away rather than help to put them out.
My wife was recently pregnant, with a 10 lb baby no less, and she indeed was stooped over and frowning during the third term and would most definitely run away from danger.
This is a non-issue, but it's Anita so this is her job. I used to be a fan but this is just getting ridiculous.
notworksafe
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Well at least you're making a change and contributing something useful.
Inferno313
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I haven't played a ton, but from what I gather the most effective way to build your society in the game is forcing people of the opposite sex into bedrooms together until they procreate. If they have higher charisma, they'll have a baby faster, and if you put them in pajamas, that boosts their charisma a lot. I can see where she's coming from. It feels a bit like you're a horrifying dictator turning your women into baby factories. I didn't realize they were defenseless once they become pregnant.
The Technomancer
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I think the issue is particularly with the portrayal as flailing and hysterical
BronsonLee
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