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Fitness |OT8| Dad Bods, Bulge Swelfies, and Wait...Do you even lift bro?

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Thought I could use a stability update on my training shoes so bought a pair of Adidas Powerlift 2.0 trainers last weekend. My squats definitely felt more solid after that and had an easier time reaching the proper depth. Lately my squat form has been feeling a bit off (maybe due to losing 25lb this year) so hopefully these new shoes help me to keep my form intact. Don't know if it was the shoes or a 10 day squatting break but my quads got a bit more sore than usual this time.

Anyway, do you guys with weightifting shoes use them with deadlifting too? I have a deadlifting day tomorrow but not sure if I will wear my old Adidas Sambas.
 
Side bends are what I always tell people to stay away from the most. If you use weights you'll just gain muscle thus pushing out the obliques making it look like you have a bigger waist.

Gain muscle? Oh no!

I think you'd have to train obliques pretty damn hard and be juicing to get them actually out of proportion with the rest of your trunk. Obliques also end above your waist at their most lateral.
 

SeanR1221

Member
You trying to get abs like your wife because you are well on your way at this pace.

As someone who's never had visible abs it would be an awesome end goal. Maybe it would happen at 180ish? Hard to say

After another month im going into maintenance for a month and I'll decide from there :)
 
Well, so far I am extremely impressed as well. :p

Our resident self esteem booster Sadetar :)
Thanks a lot.

As someone who's never had visible abs it would be an awesome end goal. Maybe it would happen at 180ish? Hard to say

After another month im going into maintenance for a month and I'll decide from there :)

You can do it bro!
Abs are more about BF than anything else. I mean to get them to really ***POP WHAM*** takes a lot of effort but to get a nice six pack is totally attainable especially at your rate.


A great workout to get the speed and angle for muscle ups for me is Plyometric Push Ups
 

ILoveBish

Member
Fasted gym is improving more. Didn't get a headache till after the gym, and my strength was through the roof today. Feeling pretty good but the time till the gym, my brain is telling me to eat. Gonna take some time...
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
As someone who's never had visible abs it would be an awesome end goal. Maybe it would happen at 180ish? Hard to say

After another month im going into maintenance for a month and I'll decide from there :)
Go for it. I always figured I was just a guy who wasn't able to get visible abs because while the skinny dudes in high school seemed to have them easily mine were nowhere to be found. I was 32 when I finally decided to give it a try. You have plenty of time.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
Woo looks like all the 24s I normally go to got bumper plates and new power racks. So excited to deadlift today with bumper plates.
 
Fasted gym is improving more. Didn't get a headache till after the gym, and my strength was through the roof today. Feeling pretty good but the time till the gym, my brain is telling me to eat. Gonna take some time...

This is probably a dumb question but your getting your BCAA's and lots of water before you start lifting right?
I'm around 4-6 glasses before I start lifting or else I get a headache as well.
 

Tater Tot

"My God... it's full of Starch!"
I train fasted as well and the first week was a pain. Afterwards my body adapted to it. I have been training fast for so long that I don't even need to take anything(including BCAA). If I don't have a good nights sleep I will usually use ON preworkout that has some BCAAs in it though and I generally use my pre workout very sparingly. I pretty much look forward to training fasted and when I train with food in my stomach I feel completely different. More sluggish.
 

ILoveBish

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This is probably a dumb question but your getting your BCAA's and lots of water before you start lifting right?
I'm around 4-6 glasses before I start lifting or else I get a headache as well.

I did a lot of research into bcaa for fasted training, and it's mostly all broscience. Going with just water/coffee now. 4 cups at least.

I train fasted as well and the first week was a pain. Afterwards my body adapted to it. I have been training fast for so long that I don't even need to take anything(including BCAA). If I don't have a good nights sleep I will usually use ON preworkout that has some BCAAs in it though and I generally use my pre workout very sparingly. I pretty much look forward to training fasted and when I train with food in my stomach I feel completely different. More sluggish.

Sounds like what I expected it to be. Thanks.
 
I did a lot of research into bcaa for fasted training, and it's mostly all broscience. Going with just water/coffee now. 4 cups at least.
Odd, I've seen a number of research articles that support its use for muscle sparing, especially for endurance exercise. Admittedly it doesn't make a huge difference, but it does make a difference.
 

Pyrokai

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Guys...I'm so incredibly confused and I really need some help from you guys.

Okay...so I'm using the IF Calculator that I think you guys all use. (this one) A few questions....

1. Why is it called the intermittent fasting calculator? At this point in time, I am not doing any kind of intermittent fasting. Should I still follow this IF Calc?

2. On the whole "Rest Day" / "Workout Day" pie charts page, what kind of workout is it assuming I'm doing? Weight lifting only?

3. I'm trying to do fast weight loss of FAT over a period of two weeks in preparation for a vacation. What macronutrient ratio should I use? I have selected "Faster Weight Loss" under the presets tab. Also, I don't know what to choose for fat/carb split or the amount of protein. I really don't know what to do here :(

AND--- If it helps, the workouts I'm planning on doing for the next two weeks are body weight exercises with some light cardio. I'd say each workout is burning 200-400 calories.

Remember, my goal is a quick cut over the next two weeks. I'd be happy to lose 5-10 pounds of fat. Also, I'm not sure how easy it is to lose muscle doing any kind of weight loss routine, but I would prefer not to lose muscle. Any tips?

My stats:

5'10"
33 waist
20% body fat (estimate....might be slightly lower but I have no way of measuring)
27 yrs old; male
175 lbs.


Thanks so much in advance, guys.
 
3. I'm trying to do fast weight loss of FAT over a period of two weeks in preparation for a vacation.

Sorry, you'll probably only get 4 fat lbs off in the space of two weeks. At most. More likely you'll get something less than 3. That'll probably only take you down to 19% BF. Not really going to make a big difference.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
So anyone make homemade chalk with the method in the OP? Regularly deadlifting 2+ plates on 5/3/1 and my grip strength begins to falter by the last set. Def trying to get some chalk before next weeks deadlifts. Also deadlifting with bumper plates is amazing. Makes such a huge difference now that I know the plates will fall in the same spot after every pull.
 
Guys...I'm so incredibly confused and I really need some help from you guys.

Okay...so I'm using the IF Calculator that I think you guys all use. (this one) A few questions....

1. Why is it called the intermittent fasting calculator? At this point in time, I am not doing any kind of intermittent fasting. Should I still follow this IF Calc?

2. On the whole "Rest Day" / "Workout Day" pie charts page, what kind of workout is it assuming I'm doing? Weight lifting only?

3. I'm trying to do fast weight loss of FAT over a period of two weeks in preparation for a vacation. What macronutrient ratio should I use? I have selected "Faster Weight Loss" under the presets tab. Also, I don't know what to choose for fat/carb split or the amount of protein. I really don't know what to do here :(

AND--- If it helps, the workouts I'm planning on doing for the next two weeks are body weight exercises with some light cardio. I'd say each workout is burning 200-400 calories.

Remember, my goal is a quick cut over the next two weeks. I'd be happy to lose 5-10 pounds of fat. Also, I'm not sure how easy it is to lose muscle doing any kind of weight loss routine, but I would prefer not to lose muscle. Any tips?

My stats:

5'10"
33 waist
20% body fat (estimate....might be slightly lower but I have no way of measuring)
27 yrs old; male


Thanks so much in advance, guys.

You're overcomplicating things. Also 10lbs of pure fat in 2 weeks is totally unrealistic. Most likely any huge losses will come from water weight, if anything. Especially if you're 20% body fat. You can get a better estimate if you use this:

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/pi.html

Obviously it's not 100% accurate. But it'll make a good starting point (probably +/-5%, but if you're 25-30% body fat then it's not like the 5% would make your situation seem any better or worse)

But to address the questions:

1) Screw intermittent fasting for a minute. IF is overall and most importantly, a meal partitioning system. Doesn't really matter in the end so the calorie estimate will work anyways.

2) I don't really like the word "workout". A lot of the times "workout" just implies that someone is going to move about in an effort to burn some calories. Assuming that you're going to train in a way that will stress the body enough to produce any worthwhile changes, then you're not going to have to eat for any sort of meaningful recovery.

For these two purposes, the calculator could probably be used under the "faster weight loss" setting.

3) Forget carb/fat macro split, just focus on designing a proper diet that will keep you full while you're eating what, 1500 calories? Once you try to punch in 1500 calories on any food tracker you'll probably realize how little food it really is, without making some adjustments in food selection.

I don't think you really know what you want though judging by your expectation of 10lbs fat loss. Assuming that 3500 cals is 1 lb of fat (it's probably not, but it's the best guess), you're looking at a 2500 cal deficit per day. Best case scenario is, that number is close to your maintenence, so you'd be looking at eating nothing for 2 weeks. Probably not the best idea. On the other hand, you'll probably drop a lot of water weight if you execute the ifcalc numbers properly so that might make a significant difference in the visual result.

If you're looking to do the whole crash/binge diet then you'll probably be better suited to looking into Lyle Mcdonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. It's pretty clear cut, without all the mumbo jumbo of macro splits and whatever else is confusing you. It'll educate you on all you need to know too, most likely.
 

BumRush

Member
I've reached a mini milestone. I'm at 100 kilos. (220lbs). Next one will be 90kg.

I've lost 17 kilos (37lbs)! :)

Nice dude, congrats.

And pyrokai, not going to happen in 2 weeks. Just eat right and exercise hard for the next 2 weeks. Drink a ton of water and avoid salt to flush out your excess water weight.
 

Pyrokai

Member
You're overcomplicating things. Also 10lbs of pure fat in 2 weeks is totally unrealistic. Most likely any huge losses will come from water weight, if anything. Especially if you're 20% body fat. You can get a better estimate if you use this:

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/pi.html

Obviously it's not 100% accurate. But it'll make a good starting point (probably +/-5%, but if you're 25-30% body fat then it's not like the 5% would make your situation seem any better or worse)

But to address the questions:

1) Screw intermittent fasting for a minute. IF is overall and most importantly, a meal partitioning system. Doesn't really matter in the end so the calorie estimate will work anyways.

2) I don't really like the word "workout". A lot of the times "workout" just implies that someone is going to move about in an effort to burn some calories. Assuming that you're going to train in a way that will stress the body enough to produce any worthwhile changes, then you're not going to have to eat for any sort of meaningful recovery.

For these two purposes, the calculator could probably be used under the "faster weight loss" setting.

3) Forget carb/fat macro split, just focus on designing a proper diet that will keep you full while you're eating what, 1500 calories? Once you try to punch in 1500 calories on any food tracker you'll probably realize how little food it really is, without making some adjustments in food selection.

I don't think you really know what you want though judging by your expectation of 10lbs fat loss. Assuming that 3500 cals is 1 lb of fat (it's probably not, but it's the best guess), you're looking at a 2500 cal deficit per day. Best case scenario is, that number is close to your maintenence, so you'd be looking at eating nothing for 2 weeks. Probably not the best idea. On the other hand, you'll probably drop a lot of water weight if you execute the ifcalc numbers properly so that might make a significant difference in the visual result.

If you're looking to do the whole crash/binge diet then you'll probably be better suited to looking into Lyle Mcdonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. It's pretty clear cut, without all the mumbo jumbo of macro splits and whatever else is confusing you. It'll educate you on all you need to know too, most likely.


***Warning.....I didn't intend for this to become a long rant, but it morphed into one****

Okay, a few things:

1. Doing that calculator I linked to, it says I'm 13.8% body fat. I really have no idea, so I took a picture just for you guys. Maybe you can guestimate what I am BF% wise because I can't use a caliper :( . I feel like I'm closer to 20 than 15, but maybe I'm just way off. My ass stores a lot of fat.

2. I was indeed kinda stupid with my whole "5-10 lbs in 2 weeks" crap. More realistic would be 5 pounds. I feel like I can do it, but I dunno. I just can't figure out how to eat.

3. When you say this:

2) I don't really like the word "workout". A lot of the times "workout" just implies that someone is going to move about in an effort to burn some calories. Assuming that you're going to train in a way that will stress the body enough to produce any worthwhile changes, then you're not going to have to eat for any sort of meaningful recovery.

...what exactly do you mean? Are you saying I won't have to eat if I stress the body in a meaningful way? You're primarily meaning LOSING weight, right? I usually always eat after I "workout". That leads me to this......

4. Here's some background: For the past two months, I've done a "bulk" and this is what I've ended up looking like. I did nearly exclusively weight training. I'd like to lose a little bit of fat now but I just can't seem to figure it out.

And finally....a vent: In the grand scheme of things, I'm an amateur. I only started exercising in 2013 and I was incredibly skinny (135 lbs.). I've made a lot of progress but I don'tt know what to do next. This thread honestly overwhelms me, and so therefore I go back to doing Beachbody workouts (P90X, Insanity, Body Beast, etc.). I'd like to move on to the next level, but I can't afford a gym membership and I have invested heavily into my own dumbbell set I've built up over time (I'm super poor, FYI...gyms are out of the question on my budget). So for big GAINZ, Body Beast is my best option right now, followed by P90X. So the "bulk" I just did was 2 months of Body Beast.

I have huge goals. I want to look and feel amazing before I turn 30 (I'm 27...nearly 28) and I just don't feel like I'm even halfway to wear I want to be and it frustrates me a lot. I'm willing to do the work. But hurdles such as macro/calorie intake, form, and being totally alone doing fitness in my lonely life sucks. I know no one else with whom to workout or to ask for help.

Basically....what's my next step? Should I keep bulking with Body Beast? Just keep hitting that program as hard as I can with some others thrown in the mix?

Ugh....sorry for the rant guys. I feel better by saying this, though. I know the OP is an amazing resource, but this thread (and you guys in the thread) seem like you're on a different planet from me. I'd like to go to that planet :(

Thanks for listening, whoever did. And again, I'm sorry if this post is frowned upon.
 

BumRush

Member
Pyro, don't be sorry dude. We're all here to help eachother. From your picture, you're probably 18%-20% bodyfat, I'd guess.

As for the workout questions, I'd strongly suggest doing a routine in the OP (531 and starting strength are the only two that I've done but others can help you pick the best one for you). They work. We'll help along the way with diet, which assistance lifts to choose, cardio, etc, but just pick something and get ready to be in for the long haul.
 

BumRush

Member
I swear peanut butter was sent down from the heavens. No matter what God you believe in, he (or she) sent peanut butter to man as a token of appreciation.

It feels like you're cheating at life when you eat it.
 

Sadetar

Member
My nephew is like this. "I don't want to get bulky"

It's amazing really. I've been spending all this time trying to put on a bit of size, and these lucky bastards walk out of their first lifting session built like brick shithouses. :(
Awwww, I am sure you look pretty amazing yourself and that you have managed to gain size nicely. I am also fairly sure you have one of the best legs in here (even if I haven't seen a single photo of them). I still agree that people's ideas about lifting can be pretty irritating - especially if they are one of those lucky bastards who would have it easy. I seriously have one former colleague (female) who would gain arm muscles way too easily and she hated it. I must say that she is pretty damn hot.

Running. Only leg stuff I do in the gym are squats, deadlift, and lunges. Running always gets them huge.

And thanks!
Ah, no running for me at least in the next 6 months or so. It seems I am out of luck on that department then. At least I can do body weight squats already. :p I maybe try to add walking lunges back to my routine soon enough. I am lowering my medication all the time and so far so good. Within next couple weeks it should be clear did I get away without having the surgery. ^_^

3 inches makes a lot of difference! Haha.

It...still hasn't happened lol. Things keep popping up and I haven't been motivated. It's bad...but I've been losing weight without it so far and I make sure I walk a decent amount right now. Excuses excuses, I know haha.

Oh, it's nice you've found a FitFriend! :D
Hahah, I am just jealous since I have always wanted to be small and petite. My mother was around 5 feet tall and my father used to always tell to me how easy it was to have her on his lap. I am pretty humongous compared to that so no nice laps for me. :p

And don't stress about working out. It takes surprisingly little time and is easily schedules into your daily routine ones you get used to it. I honestly don't even know what I did with the extra around 8 hours per week before I worked out. :D

Of course you have been losing weight! We all know that working out is like max 20 % of fat loss and normally around 90 % is purely about the diet. Now when your diet is superb you shouldn't have any problems losing and maintaining even without working out it just has other benefits. :)

hey fitgaf I finally unlocked a longterm goal of mine

https://youtu.be/UpvNzqEsxPk

excuse the dodgy camera my lady was shooting
That is ridiculously impressive!

204! And I wanted to hit 200 by the end of August. Maybe adjust that to 198? Stepping on the scale is now like hitting PRs. Love it.
You are really a motivation what comes to fat loss. :D Once I am clear with the medication I will certainly continue my cut as well. Not planning to get as smashing as your lady, but I really love to always hear about you two. :)

You can do it bro!
Abs are more about BF than anything else. I mean to get them to really ***POP WHAM*** takes a lot of effort but to get a nice six pack is totally attainable especially at your rate.

A great workout to get the speed and angle for muscle ups for me is Plyometric Push Ups
I continue to be amazed about all the things people in here are able to do. :D At the moment I can only dream about doing anything like that and currently I am being exremely happy that I can tie my own shoelaces relatively easily (no sarcasm involved, I am soooo happy about it). :p

Our resident self esteem booster Sadetar :)
Thanks a lot.
Awwww, that was so very sweet of you to say. ^_^ Also you are very welcome.

I've reached a mini milestone. I'm at 100 kilos. (220lbs). Next one will be 90kg.

I've lost 17 kilos (37lbs)! :)
That is so awesome! Good for you! :D I am waiting to see some comparison shots soon enough.

May I ask how lond did it take for you to lose those 17 kilos by the way? :)

***Warning.....I didn't intend for this to become a long rant, but it morphed into one****

Okay, a few things:

1. Doing that calculator I linked to, it says I'm 13.8% body fat. I really have no idea, so I took a picture just for you guys. Maybe you can guestimate what I am BF% wise because I can't use a caliper :( . I feel like I'm closer to 20 than 15, but maybe I'm just way off. My ass stores a lot of fat.

2. I was indeed kinda stupid with my whole "5-10 lbs in 2 weeks" crap. More realistic would be 5 pounds. I feel like I can do it, but I dunno. I just can't figure out how to eat.

3. When you say this:

2) I don't really like the word "workout". A lot of the times "workout" just implies that someone is going to move about in an effort to burn some calories. Assuming that you're going to train in a way that will stress the body enough to produce any worthwhile changes, then you're not going to have to eat for any sort of meaningful recovery.

...what exactly do you mean? Are you saying I won't have to eat if I stress the body in a meaningful way? You're primarily meaning LOSING weight, right? I usually always eat after I "workout". That leads me to this......

4. Here's some background: For the past two months, I've done a "bulk" and this is what I've ended up looking like. I did nearly exclusively weight training. I'd like to lose a little bit of fat now but I just can't seem to figure it out.

And finally....a vent: In the grand scheme of things, I'm an amateur. I only started exercising in 2013 and I was incredibly skinny (135 lbs.). I've made a lot of progress but I don'tt know what to do next. This thread honestly overwhelms me, and so therefore I go back to doing Beachbody workouts (P90X, Insanity, Body Beast, etc.). I'd like to move on to the next level, but I can't afford a gym membership and I have invested heavily into my own dumbbell set I've built up over time (I'm super poor, FYI...gyms are out of the question on my budget). So for big GAINZ, Body Beast is my best option right now, followed by P90X. So the "bulk" I just did was 2 months of Body Beast.

I have huge goals. I want to look and feel amazing before I turn 30 (I'm 27...nearly 28) and I just don't feel like I'm even halfway to wear I want to be and it frustrates me a lot. I'm willing to do the work. But hurdles such as macro/calorie intake, form, and being totally alone doing fitness in my lonely life sucks. I know no one else with whom to workout or to ask for help.

Basically....what's my next step? Should I keep bulking with Body Beast? Just keep hitting that program as hard as I can with some others thrown in the mix?

Ugh....sorry for the rant guys. I feel better by saying this, though. I know the OP is an amazing resource, but this thread (and you guys in the thread) seem like you're on a different planet from me. I'd like to go to that planet :(

Thanks for listening, whoever did. And again, I'm sorry if this post is frowned upon.
First of all, you don't look half that bad and most likely way better than you think. I have no idea about your body fat percentage and what comes to your vacation, staring at the percentage doesn't do you any good. If you have two weeks to look as good as you can, I say that eat low carb and very little salt and quite much good fats, protein and drink loads of water. It will take the possible bloat away and will make you look leaner.

What comes to your long term goals, you could perhaps offer us a photo of how you would like to look within couple years. I am sure the lads are able to help you more if they know what you are aiming for.

Good luck with your quest. :)
 

UrAvgGuy

Member
I swear peanut butter was sent down from the heavens. No matter what God you believe in, he (or she) sent peanut butter to man as a token of appreciation.

It feels like you're cheating at life when you eat it.

I live for peanut butter, hell nut butter in general. Put that shit on everything.


woooo damn all that weight. Incredible lift man, Cooter flexin those muscles. Nice work!
 
Side bends are what I always tell people to stay away from the most. If you use weights you'll just gain muscle thus pushing out the obliques making it look like you have a bigger waist.

I thought this for YEARS and didn't train obliques because of it and yeah no, for a natural lifter there's no way they get big enough to make you look fat. If anything bigger obliques I think make you look more shredded when you get down low where they meet the serratus.

I do think side bends suck though, mainly because it's easy to do them poorly and put unnecessary stress on the low back.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
I sure hope mine did. it's just a regular sport though so doubt it. it might even be an active lol.
Hope the regular 24s got them too. I usually go to super sports. Was shocked when one of them got bumper plates in and was glad to see another got them too. Guessing the last one I usually go to replaced the random trampoline ball bouncing thing with power racks and bumper plates too.
 
Are any of you guys on a high protein/low/no carb bulk diet? I find carbs don't sit well with me so I've recently switched over and I'm seeing great body fat loss results very quick. I'd like some tips on what to eat/how frequent etc
 

Chocobro

Member
Are any of you guys on a high protein/low/no carb bulk diet? I find carbs don't sit well with me so I've recently switched over and I'm seeing great body fat loss results very quick. I'd like some tips on what to eat/how frequent etc

ILoveBish is on keto and I'm on low carb. Look for keto recipes and you can modify it to get a bit more carbs if you want. For my current situation in life and my discipline, I make a meal plan [link to my current one] and modify it accordingly. ILoveBish helped me a lot along the way.

Frequency doesn't really matter (to me) because It's so easy to eat calorie dense meals on a low-carb diet, I don't feel hungry in between meals, and it's more time efficient to eat fewer meals.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Thanks fellas. Really happy about this one. It actually tied my previous PR but I was about 217-220 at the time. Obviously you can see why it means more to me. It's also slightly above 3x bw which was my previous best ratio. On to 560...

Dat lift!!!

I like to think that all of us here gave you a fist bump by channeling through the guy with the backpack.

lol Good ole Kenny. 59 year old New Yorker with the heavy accent and all. Nice guy and in amazing shape for his age.
 
ILoveBish is on keto and I'm on low carb. Look for keto recipes and you can modify it to get a bit more carbs if you want. For my current situation in life and my discipline, I make a meal plan [link to my current one] and modify it accordingly. ILoveBish helped me a lot along the way.

Frequency doesn't really matter (to me) because It's so easy to eat calorie dense meals on a low-carb diet, I don't feel hungry in between meals, and it's more time efficient to eat fewer meals.



Thanks. ive had no issues going no carb. my diet at the moment is very up in the air. not counting cals or fat and protein just yet im kind of easing into it but yeah ive already seen some great results. people say they feel tired without carbs but im completely the opposite, after the carb high i feel a massive low.

right now for breakfast im having 4 eggs one yolk, 4 strips bacon, then preworking 1 1/2 protein shake, postworkout same shake, then within the hour or when the hunger kicks in i have a large chicken breast and a side of vegetables. then late lunch large steak and vegetables, then in between that meal and dinner i have a few tins of tuna that usually fills be up fine until dinner, then have a large bowl of mince (ground) beef with a protein shake not long after. its very basic, thats why i was looking where to alter it. if i ever have a sweet tooth i just have a high protein no carb bar.
 

ILoveBish

Member
Thanks. ive had no issues going no carb. my diet at the moment is very up in the air. not counting cals or fat and protein just yet im kind of easing into it but yeah ive already seen some great results. people say they feel tired without carbs but im completely the opposite, after the carb high i feel a massive low.

right now for breakfast im having 4 eggs one yolk, 4 strips bacon, then preworking 1 1/2 protein shake, postworkout same shake, then within the hour or when the hunger kicks in i have a large chicken breast and a side of vegetables. then late lunch large steak and vegetables, then in between that meal and dinner i have a few tins of tuna that usually fills be up fine until dinner, then have a large bowl of mince (ground) beef with a protein shake not long after. its very basic, thats why i was looking where to alter it. if i ever have a sweet tooth i just have a high protein no carb bar.

Anyone who says they bolded has likely never experienced the glory of keto. Your meals sound fine, but track your calories and weigh your food, just to get an idea of what a typical day looks like for you. Information is power.
 
That is so awesome! Good for you! :D I am waiting to see some comparison shots soon enough.

May I ask how lond did it take for you to lose those 17 kilos by the way? :)

I'm not sure I'll be doing comparison shots lol. I'm too embarrassed with my body :(

Well, I was at my heaviest (117 kilos) last year. Around November I lost 4 kilos, but then gave up and gain about 2 back, so at the start of the year I was around 115. Then around February- March I decided to make a change again and push hard again. I wasn't tracking my weight loss at first, but I have been tracking it sing May 30th. Since that day (I was 107 kilos) I've managed to lose about 1 kilo per week. It's been a steady loss.
 
Thanks to food poisoning I'm now the second lightest I've ever been. Feel weak as a kitten though, not sure if I'll be able to lift later.
 

Szu

Member
Thanks to food poisoning I'm now the second lightest I've ever been. Feel weak as a kitten though, not sure if I'll be able to lift later.
It might be the kitten comment or the fact that there's a lack of caffeine in my system this morning, but I read the last part as "lift litter".
 
I did a lot of research into bcaa for fasted training, and it's mostly all broscience. Going with just water/coffee now. 4 cups at least.



Sounds like what I expected it to be. Thanks.

Ha you know whats funny I don't do any BCAA's. I actually don't do protein powders, creatine, really any of it just food, but....My nephew does and he swears by it to avoid feeling queasy or having a headache. He does 1 scoop with his coffee half hour before he works out.


That is just bonkers Coot.
 
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