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Now that Shenmue has been funded, we move into phase II of #SaveShenmue:

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
Tonight, the culmination of 14 years of hopelessness was finally erased as Shenmue III became the all-time most successful videogame Kickstarter campaign. Nearly 70,000 people pledged between $29 and $10,000 for a chance to fund the game and get awesome swag.

While that amount is almost 15% higher than the next highest videogame Kickstarter (Bloodstained), many of us in the rabid Shenmue community believe it could have gone even higher with just a few more things going in the campaign's favor: Paypal donating (which is coming, and might have removed urgency from the campaign had it been announced any earlier), a better run campaign by a more experienced staff than Awesome Japan (who did a mostly noble job down the stretch, but was borderline pathetic during the first week of the campaign), better tiers between 29 and 100 dollars (some of which eventually did happen, but some of that was too little too late), and last, but not least, Shenmue I and II HD ports.

I think one of the keys to the future success of the Paypal campaign, as well as the series itself (Shenmue IV, V, and VI, proverbially) is that new people and fans of the old game have an easier time playing it than through a difficult-to-deal-with emulator or shelling out money for copies of the games and a Dreamcast.

My idea is to pester the hell out of Sega until we get a concrete answer, and then if that answer isn't favorable, to pester them more. Let's be like Andy Dufresne in Shawshank Redemption and write a letter a month. They can't ignore us forever. Might as well use the 3rd of the month, as well, since that has worked well for the fans up until now.

This can and should be done through Twitter, Blog postings, emails, smoke signals, hand-written notes in the vein of the Four Wude, etc.

I propose using the hashtag #SaveShenmue, of course, but we could also use #ShenmueHD or something to that effect.

Can anyone bang out a good, simple and clean tweet we can use as a template, complete with hashtags?

Sega just recently said they are looking to win back their reputation from the early 90s when they were flying high. They are trying to be a game developer and publisher than people can trust again. Let's make it known that publishing Shenmue I and II ports would be amazing for this campaign and would surely gain them a ton of sales. I personally read many comments of people who would have donated, but have been unable to figure out a way to play the originals.
 

Tizoc

Member
Let's wait til Gamescom, don't PC games get announced there as well?
Keep in mind also
In q3/q4 2013, we got Typing of the Dead Overkill
In Q3/Q4 2014 we got V. Chronicles

Both on Steam. Maybe this Year will be Shenmue 1+2 HD? Who knows.

The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD. Cuz with all the hype and praise S1+2 got, if an HD remaster would b released, what price would get people to even buy it?
 
The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD. Cuz with all the hype and praise S1+2 got, if an HD remaster would b released, what price would get people to even buy it?

Depends on how much work is put into the remaster. $30-$40.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
Let's wait til Gamescom, don't PC games get announced there as well?
Keep in mind also
In q3/q4 2013, we got Typing of the Dead Overkill
In Q3/Q4 2014 we got V. Chronicles

Both on Steam. Maybe this Year will be Shenmue 1+2 HD? Who knows.

The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD. Cuz with all the hype and praise S1+2 got, if an HD remaster would b released, what price would get people to even buy it?

If they were smart, they would Kickstart the remasters. Why the hell not? I would pay any amount required to own them, especially if I could get updated physical versions and even more especially if they could figure a way to continue data from I to II to III.

They only need to figure out how much they will need to port them to PC and PS4, update signage or pretty much anything that has text to look sharp in HD, lock in 1080p/60/filtering, etc. and they would immediately have a very successful campaign.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD. Cuz with all the hype and praise S1+2 got, if an HD remaster would b released, what price would get people to even buy it?

20 bucks each sounds reasonable.
 
I think #ShenmueHD would be a better fit since #saveshenmue was used for the kickstarter. Someone should compile a list of twitter accounts from Sega.
 
I don't normally feel like these kinds of campaigns are terribly worthwhile - but really, the iron will never be hotter: Shenmue III has just been funded in a landmark kickstarter and sega has just finished saying they want to change their ways. This could really work (although I think the message is clear enough already.)

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The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD.

I'd absolutely pay 60 bucks for both games properly done.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
I think #ShenmueHD would be a better fit since #saveshenmue was used for the kickstarter. Someone should compile a list of twitter accounts from Sega.

Agreed about ShenmueHD

I don't normally feel like these kinds of campaigns are terribly worthwhile - but really, the iron will never be hotter: Shenmue III has just been funded in a landmark kickstarter and sega has just finished saying they want to change their ways. This could really work (although I think the message is clear enough already.)

Agreed, but with the aforementioned, and the fact that Yu Suzuki wouldn't have kept trying to make Shenmue III after all these years if it weren't for the fans and these twitter campaigns.
 

flattie

Member
My suspicion is that we'll hear something at TGS - but I think it'd make more sense to do it now. This is undoubtedly the watermark for the franchise after the success of the KS; the fanbase is mobilised and desperate for anything related to Shenmue. If Sega are able, they should be looking to ride this wave as hard as they can.

Sega are unlikely to ever get a better opportunity to make money out of this IP by making use of the old games - I know they've made some apparently stupid calls over the last few decades, but surely, if ever there was a no-brainer, this is it.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
On the one hand yes, but I'ma go crazy and say they could be $30 each.
Weren't these games that had a lot of work put into their development for the DC at the time?

The money invested in these games is lost and gone forever. But Sega is sitting on a figurative goldmine here. As mentioned, the iron will never be hotter and, if the games were made available tomorrow, I suspect they would be the highest selling games released on Steam or PSN store for the day at least, if not the week and possibly month or longer.

20 to 30 bucks would be an easy pill for most gamers to swallow, and tons mentioned how they would donate if they had a way of actually playing the old ones. Sega has emulated their games before to sell, and as high-res images of the emulated game show, this game is beautiful even without spending any time to fix anything. Truly a missed opportunity if they don't release these.
 

Muzy72

Banned
I can't imagine how much money the Kickstarter would have made if the campaign was run better and they had the HD remaster. Probably would have broken that fabled 10 million!
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Depends on how much work is put into the remaster.

I would be perfectly fine, and would even prefer it, if they would keep the games untouched. 1080p (optionally with 4:3 aspect ratio) resolution and stabilized frame rate are enough. Higher resolution textures only if already available.
 

Aaron

Member
Game Informer has been doing a replay of the original Shenmue, and I'm surprised at how well the game holds up. Personally, I wouldn't mind the two games as is, but with a few control tweaks to make it a little less awkward to play.
 

Moofers

Member
Game Informer has been doing a replay of the original Shenmue, and I'm surprised at how well the game holds up. Personally, I wouldn't mind the two games as is, but with a few control tweaks to make it a little less awkward to play.
Yeah I watched the first episode and was pleased that they seemed so positive and enjoyed it :)
 
Game Informer has been doing a replay of the original Shenmue, and I'm surprised at how well the game holds up. Personally, I wouldn't mind the two games as is, but with a few control tweaks to make it a little less awkward to play.

The game holds up ridiculously well. It's just how different it feels from other games that people seem to think or expect of Shenmue that throw people off a bit. And not everyone can be made convert to Shenmue anyway.
 

Tizoc

Member
The money invested in these games is lost and gone forever. But Sega is sitting on a figurative goldmine here. As mentioned, the iron will never be hotter and, if the games were made available tomorrow, I suspect they would be the highest selling games released on Steam or PSN store for the day at least, if not the week and possibly month or longer.

20 to 30 bucks would be an easy pill for most gamers to swallow, and tons mentioned how they would donate if they had a way of actually playing the old ones. Sega has emulated their games before to sell, and as high-res images of the emulated game show, this game is beautiful even without spending any time to fix anything. Truly a missed opportunity if they don't release these.

While the figures could be somewhat off,
http://steamspy.com/app/294860
V. Chronicles 1 is hovering towards 500K units sold, didn't the PS3 ver. sell over 1 mil by now?

There are many who don't know about Shenmue and if SEGA want to release the first 2 games they're going to want do some good advertising/promotion for it (which SEGA isn't in the habit of doing well far as I've seen)
 

Teknoman

Member
Game Informer has been doing a replay of the original Shenmue, and I'm surprised at how well the game holds up. Personally, I wouldn't mind the two games as is, but with a few control tweaks to make it a little less awkward to play.

Imo they are just fine as is. Shenmue 2 is backwards compatible isnt it? And everyone should own a Dreamcast anyway. I do think they should do some really good marketing and a recap for 3 though.
 

DigtialT

Member
I really wish a HD re-release of Shenmue 1 and 2 were announced before the kickstarter ended, only reason I didn't pledge.
 

LewieP

Member
#SaveShenmue4

The original two games are fine as they are, but they could be improved with a few small tweaks. Enhanced draw distance (particularly for characters), shorter loading transitions, some work on IQ. I wouldn't want full on remakes, just a few enhancements to take advantage of the much more powerful hardware they'd be running on today.

I don't think the original controls are bad by any means, but they could probably offer a couple of new control schemes, and if they were doing a rerelease on PC they'd need to add KBAM support anyway, which would require some work.
 
Ok I used the Shenmuedojo tweet and altered it a bit and added a few hashtags and accounts. Lets start tweeting


Hi @SEGA we would love HD versions of #Shenmue 1 / 2. Both @yu_suzuki_jp & @CedricBiscay want this! #SaveShenmue #ShenmueHD @SEGA_OFFICIAL
 
Its going to be a long 3 year wait and staggered hd releases of the first two games will help sales of shenmue 3. I would pay £50 for both if they are done properly in 1080p/ 60fps.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD. Cuz with all the hype and praise S1+2 got, if an HD remaster would b released, what price would get people to even buy it?

I mean, I threw $300 at Shenmue III, so I figure that I'm willing to spend basically whatever for Shenmue 1+2 HD... but only if they do a good job, and produce a re-release that's inarguably better than the Dreamcast originals. If they can't do that, then I'm not willing to pay anything.
 
#SaveShenmue4

The best #SaveShenmue4 thing we can do at this point of time is proving to SEGA that Shenmue 3 can be a profitable venture, and the logical step to support that at this moment is to ease the entry of newcomers into Shenmue 3 via a release of Shenmue 1/2 HD.
 

Trojan X

Banned
Yes. I think our next logical step is hurassing SEGA the right way. Basically, we want Shenmue I & II with updated controls, Game-Transfer to Shenmue III, uncompressed sound, and with these Remastered graphics (of course, colour correction will be required):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWhauvTOWY


If these graphics cannot be done due to budget then we expect the game to be fully re-textured with high res graphics. We all want to experience the best version of Shenmue I and II possible.
 
Yes. I think our next logical step is hurassing SEGA the right way. Basically, we want Shenmue I & II with updated controls, Game-Transfer to Shenmue III, uncompressed sound, and with these Remastered graphics (of course, colour correction will be required):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWhauvTOWY


If these graphics cannot be done due to budget then we expect the game to be fully re-textured with high res graphics. We all want to experience the best version of Shenmue I and II possible.

At the very, very least I would like to see someone at Sega get in touch with Kid Nocon, the person who produced that and several other "HD" updates of Shenmue locations.

If Christian Whitehead was given the chance to remake Sonic CD, Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, why not reach out to the fans for Shenmue remasters?
 

DEATH_INC

Neo Member
Yes. I think our next logical step is hurassing SEGA the right way. Basically, we want Shenmue I & II with updated controls, Game-Transfer to Shenmue III, uncompressed sound, and with these Remastered graphics (of course, colour correction will be required):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWhauvTOWY


If these graphics cannot be done due to budget then we expect the game to be fully re-textured with high res graphics. We all want to experience the best version of Shenmue I and II possible.

That Ryo is FAR more faithful than the kickstarter videos. Hire that guy lol.
 
Yes. I think our next logical step is hurassing SEGA the right way. Basically, we want Shenmue I & II with updated controls, Game-Transfer to Shenmue III, uncompressed sound, and with these Remastered graphics (of course, colour correction will be required):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWhauvTOWY


If these graphics cannot be done due to budget then we expect the game to be fully re-textured with high res graphics. We all want to experience the best version of Shenmue I and II possible.

This guy did a better job then the kickstater did with the character models.
 

Koobion

Member
It makes so much sense to release these for current consoles and PC that I have a hard time believing Sega hasn't already decided that they're going to do it - and are perhaps even in the preliminary stages of it :)

Something came to mind that I was wondering about others' opinions on though. Do you think there'd be an ideal time to release Shenmue 1&2 HD? For example, would it be more advantageous to release them ASAP - or would it be better to do it when 3 is even remotely close to releasing? What about staggering the releases, rather than having them come out one at a time? Personally I think the ideal scenario would be to do an in depth, fairly large budget remastering, and have them release individually.

Having a gap between them might make the wait for 3 less painful, and treating them like large AAA releases would let new and old players alike feel as if they're experiencing a brand new series all over - in preparation for 3!

I'm pretty torn on a good price point. As a collection, I could see it going for $30 USD, though $20 feels a bit low for the individual games.
 
At the very, very least I would like to see someone at Sega get in touch with Kid Nocon, the person who produced that and several other "HD" updates of Shenmue locations.

If Christian Whitehead was given the chance to remake Sonic CD, Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, why not reach out to the fans for Shenmue remasters?

Kid Nocon actually met with Yu Suzuki, apparently, so he might be lending a hand in some form in Shenmue 3.
 

danwarb

Member
We'll see emulated "Shenmue HD" on all the big platforms for sure. No chance of a remake with significant modifications.

I wouldn't mind that.
 

DEATH_INC

Neo Member
We'll see emulated "Shenmue HD" on all the big platforms for sure. No chance of a remake with significant modifications.

I wouldn't mind that.

Same. If all they did was change movement to joystick without having to hold a trigger to run and cleaned up the UI to match the higher game resolution I'd be content.
 
Let's put it this way. Shenmue is relevant again now, so if Sega don't eventually release a HD collection prior to Shenmue III coming out then you KNOW that those legal wranglings are a major fucking problem that are impossible to solve.
 
Didn't SEGA say something a couple of weeks ago about how they "learned a lesson" (by looking at Atlus) and that they are going to make announcements soon (don't know if TGS or Gamescom)?

Anyone remembers this?
 

Freshmaker

I am Korean.
Let's put it this way. Shenmue is relevant again now, so if Sega don't eventually release a HD collection prior to Shenmue III coming out then you KNOW that those legal wranglings are a major fucking problem that are impossible to solve.

Assuming they still have the code.
 
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