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[SprachBrooks]

Damn, OP forcing that love fiction.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

There's more believable romance between Fang and Vanille than Snow and Serah.

 

[Cornbread78]

God knows what kind of secret fiction Toriyama has on these two characters buried away on his computer... *shudder*

They will be realeased as FFXIII-III: The True Heroines of Gran Pulse...

 

[Nesther]

There's more believable romance between Fang and Vanille than Snow and Serah.

Snow and Serah.. ugh. Always hated Snow so much.

 

[BadWolf]

There's more believable romance between Fang and Vanille than Snow and Serah.

She was better off with Noel anyway.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Might as well class this thread up with some fan art:

 

[BlueBadger]

There's more believable romance between Fang and Vanille than Snow and Serah.

Correct.

 

[SOLDIER]

Honestly I feel this was wholly unintentional on SE's part, but after seeing the growing fanbase they decided to just roll with it. Whatever helped to lighten the criticisms of FFXIII.

 

[ShinMaruku]

I find this as reading too much into this stuff. Toriyama is a crazy mountain, but this is still reading too much into it.

 

[spunodi]

I like to think they were a couple. I think it works well.

Re: Sephiroth (Crisis Core spoilers)

Spoiler

Sephiroth was totes in love with Genesis except Genesis was shagging Angeal behind his back. Like OMG mad drama. But Genesis told Sephiroth at Nibelheim and Sephy well lost it and ran to his mum. Canon as fuck.

 

[Frumix]

She was better off with Noel anyway.

It's so true by the way. They had chemistry together. Might've been by accident.

 

[uncredited male]

It is intentionally ambiguous.

So yes, of course they are.

 

[BadWolf]

It's so true by the way. They had chemistry together. Might've been by accident.

Yeah, they were actually great together.

That XIII-2 ending

 

[Meowster]

I believe they are a lesbian couple, yes, and it felt even more implied in LR.

 

[SoraanTribal]

She was better off with Noel anyway.

100% true. They had such great chemistry together. Way more than with Snow, anyway.

 

[WickedLaharl]

 

[HarryKS]

Maybe OP never had friends.

It's a possibility.

It's hard nowadays.

 

[Lights and Waves]

Maybe OP never had friends.

It's a possibility.

It's hard nowadays.

This was so unfunny. It was just. Sad.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Fun fact: Fang was originally a male character. However, when SE decided to make Lightning a serious, no-nonsense character, they redesigned Fang as a "sexy" female in order to contrast Lightning with her.

 

[HarryKS]

This was so unfunny. It was just. Sad.

But true. It's hard.

 

[jediyoshi]

It is intentionally ambiguous.

So yes, of course they are.

#animelogic

 

[SOLDIER]

For the record, the only FF yuri couple I do personally ship is Terra and Celes.

I feel it works on several thematic levels. Also Locke is a jerk, so this would be a much better romantic outcome.

 

[bobawesome]

What are you implying, OP? Uranus and Neptune were cousins.

Spoiler

/dub

 

[johnsmith]

For the record, the only FF yuri couple I do personally ship is Terra and Celes.

I feel it works on several thematic levels. Also Locke is a jerk, so this would be a much better romantic outcome.

It's Edgar + Terra, sorry bro.

 

[Abinash117]

It seems like they were close; aren't they like the only people of their kind at the time of ff13? I would think that they are close because of that and some other things.

I see this quite often. Every now and then when there are guy friends that are going through some crazy stressing event and they seem kinda close; some people assume they are gay. Kind of annoying that some people think guys( or girls) can't have that type of relationship without being romantic.

 

[SOLDIER]

It's Edgar + Terra, sorry bro.

Lies. She can do so, so much better.

Spoiler

Sabin would totally treat her right.

 

[AwShucks]

I took out the Sephiroth bit from the OP before anyone else go their masculinity bruised. Now, back to the topic at hand.

Nothing to do about masculinity. I've played FF7 so many times and never once though that about Sephiroth.

If it was about masculinity, I wouldn't know exactly what you mean by Uranus and Neptune.

As for Fang and Vanille, I always thought it was an obvious but slightly downplayed thing, just like Uranus and Neptune. The original Japanese Sailor Moon makes that relationship a bit more obvious than the horrible dubbed version, but it's not like they go around making out or anything. It's just clear they are in a relationship.

 

[cerulily]

Vanille explicitly calls Fang her "partner" at one point. It's real unless you're dead inside

It seems like they were close; aren't they like the only people of their kind at the time of ff13? I would think that they are close because of that and some other things.

I see this quite often. Every now and then when there are guy friends that are going through some crazy stressing event and they seem kinda close; some people assume they are gay. Kind of annoying that some people think guys( or girls) can't have that type of relationship without being romantic.

It's pretty clear they were close even before the events of this game.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

It's pretty much canon

 

[Gbraga]

#animelogic

KyoAni played so much with our emotions with this anime :C

It was interesting though how Reina went for "eeh, whatever, who cares about her" to "DAYUM REINA GURL" in one episode.

 

[BlueBadger]

What are you implying, OP? Uranus and Neptune were cousins.

Spoiler

/dub

This was one of the dumbest things they could have done in the dub. LOL.

 

[doemaaan]

I saw it as close friends, nothing more.

Yeah.... me too. Not once throughout that game, did I think they were anything more. Actually, I thought they were sisters.

 

[Falk]

when they say "we stick together, you hear me" they don't mean their vaginas. it's a common saying among friends going through something.

I can't stop laughing at this for some reason

Me too, except I'm giggling because I'm not rly old enough mentally to laugh instead of giggle.

D:

 

[Corpekata]

Vanille is weird and offputting so I tried to not view any of her interactions as romantic.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Lol'd at Sephiroth being gay though, the only thing he's gay for is himself.

how do you explain him being shirt-less in the final battle with cloud if he's not gay?

Spoiler

/s

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Better love story than Squall and Rinoa.

That's kinda like saying better love story than snot and kleenex

 

[ScOULaris]

Alright, OP. You're just gonna have to accept that this thread is about your gay Sephiroth claim now.

Genuinely curious. What on earth in FF7's entirety gave you that impression?

 

[ohyouagain]

I must admit, I also think of Sephiroth as a gay character.

 

[StormBrute]

I kinda got the feeling in the game, but a lot of male writers are really bad at writing sisterly relationships, or just friendly relationships between women in general, and a good amount of the male audience is bad at interpreting them. The FF13 writers were also bad at relationships in general, as seen in Snow/Serah, but I don't know if that makes me lean more one way or the other.

Looking at some production stuff for the game though, it does make me wonder. Wasn't there an interview that talked about how there was some debate about putting Vanille on the cover instead of Lightning because she was pretty much the main character of the story, but they stuck with Lightning because they had said Lightning was the main character before? Combine that with the fact that Fang was originally a guy, and that makes me wonder if Fang was the love interest to Vanille's main character, and then when things got shifted around some of that was either leftover in their interactions or intentionally left in but downplayed.

An alternative is that it was done as "it-could-be-ha-ha-but-not-really" type thing, which I see sometimes in anime and similar games as fanservice, so it may be something similar. Queerbaiting, or yuri-baiting I guess.

This is more thought than FF13's writing is really deserving of, though.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Alright, OP. You're just gonna have to accept that this thread is about your gay Sephiroth claim now.

Genuinely curious. What on earth in FF7's entirety gave you that impression?

Well he did spend 95% of his screen time in FF7 with his mouth open like a blow up doll

 

[vainglorious]

That ain't no mako glow in Seph's eyes - that's the buttlust.

 

[Always-honest]

Let's find other words for "canon".

 

[SDBurton]

OH HELL YEAH THEY'RE A COUPLE!

 

[Wazzy]

They absolutely should have been since the game heavily implied it. It was one of the more interesting parts of XIII but I get the feeling they'll deny it.

Also Vanille and Fang are the true main characters of XIII.

 

[L Thammy]

I think the Sephiroth thing was long hair = canon gay.

Like Zero was canon gay with Mega Man X

 

[Zolo]

If it has to be debated online (aka it wasn't confirmed in-game) and it hasn't been confirmed by any of the creators, it can probably be said it's at least not 'canon' unless new material says otherwise. Personal interpretation, feel free to go crazy.

 

[Supermanisdead]

What made u think Sephiroth was gay?

 

[TGO]

I thought it was a sister type thing, guess people see what they wanna see.

 

[MikeE21286]

I never even thought about it until after I finished the game and heard people mention it.

 

[davepoobond]

What made u think Sephiroth was gay?

Long hair and his misogyny