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[Sadist]

Better love story than Squall and Rinoa.

This is true.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

I think

Spoiler

and hope

so

 

[Kain]

They were so cute together all the time. And Fang was so protective of her... better romance thatn Snow+Sera for sure. A rock with the ground is a better romance than those two, true, but this was FFXIII, the writing was all over the place anyway.

 

[Eudaemonium]

I think it's pretty clear they're a couple. Or at the very least there's absolutely nothing in the game that contradicts reading them as a couple, so it might as well be canon.

I mean, the game ends

Spoiler

with the two turned to crystal holding hands for eternity.

It was more romantic than anything in earlier FF games.

 

[Ludist210]

There's more believable romance between Fang and Vanille than Snow and Serah.

Snow and Serah's relationship was believable in XIII, but it went straight to crap in XIII-2. I still haven't played LR, but yeah...best romance/friendship was between Vanille and Fang.

 

[pizzacat]

You can have a strong relationship with someone without it leading to anything romantic. I never got anything romantic out of them.


Oh they were holding hands like crystals ok yea they were a couple ofc lol

 

[MisterShine]

I always assumed they were just close sisters/cousins, as I have always seen them referred to with the same surname.

However if they're not related, then yeah it is pretty obvious they're a thing.

 

[Squishy3]

God knows what kind of secret fiction Toriyama has on these two characters buried away on his computer... *shudder*

the only woman for toriyama is lightning

 

[cerulily]

Remember when The Last of Us: Left Behind came out, and tonnes of people tried really hard to say that they were just really good friends, and that girls sometimes kiss...
Some people just don't know it when they see it

 

[vainglorious]

Snow and Serah's relationship was believable in XIII, but it went straight to crap in XIII-2. I still haven't played LR, but yeah...best romance/friendship was between Vanille and Fang.

Snow and Serah always bothered me. Guy's a tall, big muscular dude and Serah has the physique of a 14 year old. Idk. It's weird.

As a gay dude I'm totally okay with Fang playing on my team but Vanille can fuck off.

Ugh Vanille.

 

[John Kowalski]

Alright, OP. You're just gonna have to accept that this thread is about your gay Sephiroth claim now.

Genuinely curious. What on earth in FF7's entirety gave you that impression?

Probably his bishonen looks at a time when it wasn't such a widely used archetype.

 

[zeopower6]

I thought it was a sister type thing, guess people see what they wanna see.

I always thought it was implied to be deeper than that. I mean, the whole vibe of anything surrounding them is very similar to other girl x girl relationships in Japanese mediums like Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune in Sailor Moon.

The two voice actors were interviewed and they gave some general responses:

Vanille's VA said they're like sisters and Fang is protective of Vanille. Fang's VA (yesterday) said that she thinks they're sisterly but they believe SE put in undertones and basically that is is up to the player to decide.

For what it's worth, Fang was also originally a male character so it's possible that they just left the ambiguous relationship in when she was made into the Fang we know now.

Snow and Serah always bothered me. Guy's a tall, big muscular dude and Serah has the physique of a 14 year old. Idk. It's weird.

There are actually a lot of relationships like that in real life... :x

 

[shiftplusone]

God knows what kind of secret fiction Toriyama has on these two characters buried away on his computer... *shudder*

Maybe when they're both together they dress up as lightning and think about lighting and talk about lightning and how great she is


Or that they both become lightning and then join lighting for a scissor sister session. but the real lightning is too pure to join in

 

[pantsmith]

Fang is such a great character who gets no love.

Vanille is such a terrible character who gets way too much love.

 

[BadWolf]

Fang is awesome, one of my fave female characters in the genre.

 

[Lucifelle]

Isn't Vanille like 15, and Fang like, 35?

I do love how they're both Australian though

 

[MicH]

Uhhhh what

They always seemed like sisters to me. Nothing romantic

 

[Darksol]

If anything, Sephiroth is an example of somebody who is asexual. There's nothing in the game to suggest any sexual preference or interest in sex whatsoever.

 

[cerulily]

Isn't Vanille like 15, and Fang like, 35?

I do love how they're both Australian though

19 and 21.

 

[Sou Da]

I thought Fang was her caretaker, in a special needs kind of way.

 

[Chatin]

I was always given the impression that they had a very close sisterhood and their bonding as kindred spirits was due to the fates they were dealt.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Snow and Serah always bothered me. Guy's a tall, big muscular dude and Serah has the physique of a 14 year old. Idk. It's weird.

Hayden Pannetiere and Wladimir Klitschko

 

[vainglorious]

There are actually a lot of relationships like that in real life... :x

Yea there are. And I'm sure Toriyama also sleeps with a Lightning print body pillow.

Those characters aren't there to reflect how people are in the real world.

 

[Lucifelle]

19 and 21.

Mate Fang ain't 21 lol

 

[Exotoro]

I thought Fang was her caretaker, in a special needs kind of way.

hahahaa

 

[zeopower6]

Fang is such a great character who gets no love.

Vanille is such a terrible character who gets way too much love.

Fang gets love by not being absolutely destroyed (along with Sazh) when it comes to critique. Vanille and Lightning have it the worst, I think. >_> Sure, Vanille is annoying and Lightning is a "stone-cold-bitch-who-doesn't-develop-at-all" but damn, some people have issues whenever those two are brought up.

Yea there are. And I'm sure Toriyama also sleeps with a Lightning print body pillow.

Those characters aren't there to reflect how people are in the real world.

Wasn't implying that, just saying that there are very many big muscly guy/small framed girl relationships out there.

 

[akidnamededdy]

I hope not, Vanille doesn't deserve happiness.

I thought Fang was her caretaker, in a special needs kind of way.

Winner.

 

[cerulily]

Mate Fang ain't 21 lol

That's what the wiki said. I mean, you're aware that 21 year old women can vary greatly in size/voice/look, correct?

 

[Qwark]

I played through 13 and quite enjoyed it, but I never once made this connection. Fang was always just the overprotective sister figure in my mind, and that's how it's going to stay.

 

[vainglorious]

Hayden Pannetiere and Wladimir Klitschko

Have you heard about the rumors and blind items surrounding Pannetiere?

It's just weird to see that example used because if there's any credence to those rumors Pannetiere is in to some dark sexual shit which is pretty disturbing.

 

[Joyful]

I dont think anyone played ff13 that far along OP
so its a mystery

 

[Adaren]

If anything, it only gets more official over the course of the trilogy. Square wasn't afraid of anything. They just like leaving things ambiguous so that people get more invested in it.

 

[Lucifelle]

That's what the wiki said. I mean, you're aware that 21 year old women can vary greatly in size/voice/look, correct?

Yeah of course, but Fang is absolutely not 21.

 

[Roshin]

You lost me at sephiroth.

I lost it at "the Sailor Uranus".

 

[Joyful]

Isn't Vanille like 15, and Fang like, 35?

I do love how they're both Australian though

breh you are talking about a game where a grown man makes out with a little girl on a hovercart in the opening cutscene

 

[zeopower6]

Yeah of course, but Fang is absolutely not 21.

What makes her not-21?

 

[Anko]

Fang cared only for Vanille right to the end.

I literally laughed out loud when we got a look at Fang's flashback and it featured Vanille and only Vanille. So much for that friends/allies/family/whatever talk right before that.

 

[Caronte]

Have you heard about the rumors and blind items surrounding Pannetiere?

It's just weird to see that example used because if there's any credence to those rumors Pannetiere is in to some dark sexual shit which is pretty disturbing.

Hmmm? What shit?

 

[Savitar]

Shippers: See how good friends they are. They are obviously in a relationship!

Shippers: These two people don't get along at all. But I'm going to ship them anyways.

Shippers: It's forbidden love. But you criticize my ship and I will cut you!

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Have you heard about the rumors and blind items surrounding Pannetiere?

It's just weird to see that example used because if there's any credence to those rumors Pannetiere is in to some dark sexual shit which is pretty disturbing.

Wat

 

[Lucifelle]

What makes her not-21?

Her voice, she's closer in age to Barthandelus than Vanille.

In fact, wasn't there even a history between the two?

 

[Zolo]

If anything, it only gets more official over the course of the trilogy. Square wasn't afraid of anything. They just like leaving things ambiguous so that people get more invested in it.

lol yeah. That's definitely it.

 

[Silvawuff]

Why the romance binary? I think it's acceptable for a friendship to be complex and deep without it needing to go all the way or no way.

 

[_woLf]

Sure as hell seemed like it in XIII and LR.

 

[Sadist]

Thread derailed lol

 

[Anko]

Sure as hell seemed like it in XIII and LR.

Everybody keeps saying that. Is it fine if I skip XIII-2 and go straight to LR?

 

[TheTux]

More interesting than Serah/Snow, that's for sure.

 

[Curufinwe]

Is true. They are definitely Australian.

 

[Corpekata]

I buy Fang being 21 as much as I buy Vanille being 19.

 

[cerulily]

Yeah of course, but Fang is absolutely not 21.

based on what?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Oerba_Yun_Fang

the wiki clearly states that Fang and Vanille grew up in an orphanage together.