DoktorEvil
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No but everyone is an Introvert according to Susan Cain and everyone can be an outlier like Malcolm Gladwell.
Edit: Goodness that infographic ate up the page.
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Are Millennials really the next "Great Generation"?
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No but everyone is an Introvert according to Susan Cain and everyone can be an outlier like Malcolm Gladwell.
Edit: Goodness that infographic ate up the page.
Especially since they are the ones that dismantled the greatest generation social programs that they had growing up.
Baby boomers can kiss my ass, selfish pricks.
Haha, there might be some truth to this.
I think the generational gap has risen as technology and society began to evolve at such a fast rate. I know I felt very removed from my parent's view of the world, the same way they likely did from theirs. I assume that's always been the case to an extent, but it's exponentially so these days.
Well, I mean, my point is that while we have wildly different views of the world than our parents do thanks to stuff like technology, we're still generally the same. In general, we aren't any greedier or narcissistic or outspoken than they were at our age.
More Fun To Compute
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I guess we need to start a world war so we can see if they bleed like heroes.
Duane Cunningham
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No Millennials, you can't have the "slacker" archetype. That's us. Stick to what you're good at: creating hashtags about how stuff offends you.
You got me there.
stufte
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Maninthemirror
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Lol that's true as well
CosmicQueso
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As a Gen Xer I'd agree with you that the boomers are full of shit.
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The whole separation of generations is pretty ridiculous anyway. 1982 to 1995 is millennial? That's a massive difference in the world. For example, someone in 1995 was 12 years old when the first Iphone came out, someone in 1982 was already 25. That's a huge difference in how those two groups grew up, yet they're all "millennials". Someone born in 1982 was unlikely to grow up with internet access, so why on Earth would they be in the same group as someone born in 1995 who the internet is second nature to? And then there's how someone born in 1982 grew up under the Cold War and was an adult when 9-11 happened and the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.
I wish more people were aware of this - there seems to be a common misconception that Millennials are all (currently) children and teenagers.
I actually think that the range of years is too wide, really - people who have little to no memories of life pre-9/11 grew up in a very different world than I did as someone born in '83, especially taking into account technology like the (modern) internet and cell phones.
Captain Tuttle
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Christ this makes me feel old
Millenials got fucked though, coming of age during that terrible recession. If you were lucky enough to get a job your salary was lower because it was an employers market for so long. That low starting wage follow many throughout their careers.
Millenials had it tough, way tougher than us gen xers and baby boomers
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
As a child of the mid-80s I feel like we're kind of a lost pseudo-generation. Not quite millennials, not quite gen-x.
I mean, I grew up with a rotary phone, cassette tapes, Intellivision and NES. I didn't get internet until I was a teenager, and didn't get my first cell-phone until after high-school.
On the other hand, I'm tech savvy, use a lot of social media and all that jazz, but I was around when none of that shit existed and remember those times pretty clearly.
teruterubozu
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Time is ticking away for millennials. Many are in their 20s and 30s.
The Shadow
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To be brutally honest, I think Millennials are shit on more than they deserve, but greatest generation? LOL! That would be the forgotten generation. Generation X.
No. No, it isn't. You're missing all the "I graduated college. Where's my job?" threads that pop up here and there. Nothing in life is guaranteed, but they think it is.
No. No, it isn't. You're missing all the "I graduated college. Where's my job?" threads that pop up here and there. Nothing in life is guaranteed, but they think it is.
Croatoan
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Yeah, I think some people in this thread think that. IGen(Also Generation I or Generation Z) is the current generation that starts pretty much in the late 90s up until today.
ElectricThunder
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Eh, less the case of being born on third base and claiming it was stellar effort that got us there and moreso the case of the reason we wound up starting on first base was the pitcher nailing us in the throat with a cravenly malicious fast ball at the plate as our first contact with it prior to even getting a swing off.
Still, whole premise is ridiculous---my generation has enough problems to weather without this ilk.
Still, whole premise is ridiculous---my generation has enough problems to weather without this ilk.
Croatoan
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You may have been before the information revolution but you lived it and embraced it. I believe that is why us early 80s peeps are lumped in with Millennials (I was born in '84).
It couldn't possibly be because their parents raised them to believe that, and insisted upon going to college, even though the cost kept going up. If you think a generation is exceptionally shitty, you only need to look at the generation that raised them.
BocoDragon
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I'd still say someone who was 32 "grew up with the Internet and entered a world in the shadow of 9/11", and that's true enough for people who are now 18 and snapchating or whatever. There's enough similarity in mindset. No one in this age range would really misunderstand the experience of one another.
Both the 18 year old and the 32 year old would look at someone who was 40 and say "so the Internet came out when you were an adult? I have no idea what that world is like."
tfur
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I don't have even the slightest idea what this analogy is trying to communicate but I love it all the same.
Joyful
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yuck a gen after superior original 151
distantmantra
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I was born in 1981 and identify with Generation X way more. I get there have to be arbitrary cutoffs, but it's always bugged me.
BocoDragon
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Actually by certain definitions you are at the tail end of Gen X.
The Lone Courier
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Fuckin' millennials. A'mirite
distantmantra
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I've heard some people use 1980 as the cutoff, so it's always baffling.
The Shadow
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It's completely arbitrary. They're more rough guidelines since it's really the adolescent and teen years and what was going on during those times that truly defines a generation.
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Averting responsibility for their failures is another negative for Millennials. Case in point:
teruterubozu
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BocoDragon
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1982 always sounded right to me. I guess the idea is that you were less than 18 at the turn of the millennium.
Croatoan
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Well, when a lot of Millennials started college the economy was great. Baby Boomers told us jobs were plentiful and we would get a job if we went to college. So many of us did and then Boomers fucked up the economy and brought about the Great Recession.
All those promised jobs were gone and Millennials were left with nothing but college loan debt.
I can understand people asking, where is my job. We were literally promised them and forced to go to college in many cases. Like, I had no say in whether I went to college and my parents didn't pay for it, loans did. Luckily I have a job because otherwise I would have defaulted on my $350 a month in payments.
A Link to the Past
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"Entitlement complex"
No, what's happening is that millennials recognize that the current minimum wage is not proportionate to cost-of-living. They believe that one part of stopping a rapidly growing wealth divide is to up the legal floor for what people are entitled to. The unfortunate repercussion of course is that many businesses will lie and claim that they'll need to fire people or raise prices (the lie is that they imply that it will be so much that the wage increases will actually do more harm than good) or close up shop or whatever. The issue is that they don't need to do any of those, not generally anyway. They will choose to do them. Not only does evidence show that $15/hr minimum wages don't close down businesses, they help the economy. So if they lay people off or cut hours or get robots or increase prices, they will have chosen to do that instead of other, less desirable solutions (such as taking pay cuts).
Quite frankly though, I'm fine with prices going up. I would sooner have to pay more but have more. It gives me more financial flexibility.
No, what's happening is that millennials recognize that the current minimum wage is not proportionate to cost-of-living. They believe that one part of stopping a rapidly growing wealth divide is to up the legal floor for what people are entitled to. The unfortunate repercussion of course is that many businesses will lie and claim that they'll need to fire people or raise prices (the lie is that they imply that it will be so much that the wage increases will actually do more harm than good) or close up shop or whatever. The issue is that they don't need to do any of those, not generally anyway. They will choose to do them. Not only does evidence show that $15/hr minimum wages don't close down businesses, they help the economy. So if they lay people off or cut hours or get robots or increase prices, they will have chosen to do that instead of other, less desirable solutions (such as taking pay cuts).
Quite frankly though, I'm fine with prices going up. I would sooner have to pay more but have more. It gives me more financial flexibility.
Ziltoidia 9
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Also, to go with your point, doubling the minimum wage doesnt mean doubling of prices for good/goods.
DoktorEvil
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I think that people born during the wide usage of the internet should not be in with people born in the 80s or very early 90s. As for the intitelment, i have a hunch that it has to do with the huge amount of accecible information regarding the current power structures and their bias(precicely due to the internet). Young people have good eye on discerning conformation bias and bullshit since they have yet to fully conform to " the way things are/how the old farts made them".
Croatoan
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Sometimes the best of us come out of the worst of circumstances.
Its possible that older Millennials will learn from the Great Recession and actually start to fix things. Given that we are open to change of all types, non-religious and community driven the opportunity for real world change is there, no matter how much we use hashtags or take selfies. Those personal negatives don't overshadow some of our community positives.
stufte
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Welcome to the human race. It happens to all of us, it's a fucking rite of passage.
Yeah, but then I'm bombarded with "OH BUT WE'RE DIFFERENT."
perfectchaos007
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Millennials will leave a legacy of putting trigger warnings on every potentially offensive piece of literature among other things. hashtag activism is blowing up because we can finally convince ourselves we are making an impactful difference between games of candy crush on our iPhones. Modern day altruism.
Good.
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My brother is a millennial. He doesn't have the entitlement attitude but he does have the work to live, which I think is amazing. He doesn't care that he hasn't have much of a career, but he does work for a large hardware-type store and is moving up in the ranks. I'm very proud of him for that.
He then turns around and uses all of his money to fund his Ghostbusters Youtube channel. :| I'm not entirely sure what I think of that part. I'm happy he's passionate about something though.
BocoDragon
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I actually think we kinda were the "participation trophy", "unique snowflake" generation...
... But then the recession hit and it was like the worst possible environment that any generational attitude would have found difficult to thrive in.
So yeah, we expected good jobs for our hard work... And then we were greeted with the worst job market in decades. A paradox.
That's why it's been especially frustrating. Because older generations point to our entitled narcissism as a failing, and it's like YES, AND this is one of the toughest environments to succeed in.
... But then the recession hit and it was like the worst possible environment that any generational attitude would have found difficult to thrive in.
So yeah, we expected good jobs for our hard work... And then we were greeted with the worst job market in decades. A paradox.
That's why it's been especially frustrating. Because older generations point to our entitled narcissism as a failing, and it's like YES, AND this is one of the toughest environments to succeed in.
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