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[Gabriel_Logan]

Multiple articles have all but confirmed Russia is increasing its "advisers" and hardware support to bolster Assad in Syria.

Recent sightings of brand new Russian armored vehicles in Syria, of types never previously supplied to its ally, suggest that with the Assad regime suffering serious reverses, Moscow is intent on redressing the military balance.

This may follow with actual military troops in the coming months but no one is quite certain of that yet. What it does foretell is the Syrian Civil War is probably going to last well into the foreseeable future. So for those advocating keeping Syrian refugees on the borders of Europe in refugee camps until the war ends, you might want to rethink that. It could be a very long time.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Fuck them.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Just looked it up and is this map serious?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War#/media/File:Syrian_civil_war.png

Red is the government, Green rebels, Grey is ISIS, and Yellow are the Kurds.

Holy shit that's alot of ISIS.

 

[gutter_trash]

Fuck them.

why?
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and UAE have been funding Sunni rebels and ISIS to overthrow Assad.

Assad is against ISIS
Iran is against ISIS.

IMO, gotta squash ISIS first

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Just looked it up and is this map serious?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War#/media/File:Syrian_civil_war.png

Red is the government, Green rebels, Grey is ISIS, and Yellow are the Kurds.

Holy shit that's alot of ISIS.

The green is al-Qaeda largely.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

The green is Al-Qaeda largely.

Fuck man. It's like whoever wins, everyone else loses. And if Assad wins, Russia will make excellent gains as being an ally.

 

[Tugatrix]

Oh you Vlady escalating a war just to fuck Europe with more refugees that's cold man

 

[antonz]

why?
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and UAE have been funding Sunni rebels and ISIS to overthrow Assad.

Assad is against ISIS
Iran is against ISIS.

IMO, gotta squash ISIS first

The Russians are arriving to wipe out everyone who poses a threat to Assad not just ISIS.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Fuck man. It's like whoever wins, everyone else loses. And if Assad wins, Russia will make excellent gains as being an ally.

Right about now Russia would gain the population of europe as an ally if he could resolve the situation in Syria.

It does pose the interesting question: can people blame Russia for supporting a horrible government if the alternative is the current endless civil war?

 

[gutter_trash]

Oh you Vlady escalating a war just to fuck Europe with more refugees that's cold man

I disagree, ISIS is a problem that needs to be eliminated.

If assholes like Russia and Iran are ready to combine forces to fight ISIS, then good.

IMO, Saudi Arabia is the biggest asshole of them all, enabling ISIS by supplying funds and weapons to rebels groups to overthrow Assad.

If you remove Assad, who takes over? hmmmmmm.. think real carefully

 

[faridmon]

Man fuck em. Do they realise how many people are dying in Syria because of this asshole?

 

[Gabriel_Logan]

I disagree, ISIS is a problem that needs to be eliminated.

If assholes like Russia and Iran are ready to combine forces to fight ISIS, then good.

IMO, Saudi Arabia is the biggest asshole of them all, enabling ISIS by supplying funds and weapons to rebels groups to overthrow Assad.

If you remove Assad, who takes over? hmmmmmm.. think real carefully

Kerry already said that Assad needs to go. Maybe one of his sons could take over? Saves face for the US and allows that power vacuum to be filled.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Right about now Russia would gain the population of europe as an ally if he could resolve the situation in Syria.

It does pose the interesting question: can people blame Russia for supporting a horrible government if the alternative is the current endless civil war?

Yeah...that's a lot of people and it's a strong foothold into the middle east.

Man fuck em. Do they realise how many people are dying in Syria because of this asshole?

...I mean, who would you want to win? You have Assad, you have Al-Qaeda, you have ISIS.

 

[Gabriel_Logan]

...I mean, who would you want to win? You have Assad, you have Al-Qaeda, you have ISIS.

Its almost as bad as the 2016 Presidential election.

 

[antonz]

Man fuck em. Do they realise how many people are dying in Syria because of this asshole?

Russia cares more about that naval Port than human life. Humanitarian Crisis if anything is going to get worse with Russia actively involved now.

 

[gutter_trash]

Kerry already said that Assad needs to go. Maybe one of his sons could take over? Saves face for the US and allows that power vacuum to be filled.

they said the same about Saddam Hussein and Momar Ghadaffi

hmm what happened to Iraq afterwards? Chaos, Civil War and the rise of ISIS.

hmmm what happened to Libya afterwards? A lawless land where Al-Queda has stepped in, arms trafficking rise and destabilization of of neighboring countries through the rise of terror attacks in Tunisia, Mali and other neighbors.

removing Assad would strengthen ISIS

 

[Abinash117]

I disagree, ISIS is a problem that needs to be eliminated.

If assholes like Russia and Iran are ready to combine forces to fight ISIS, then good.

IMO, Saudi Arabia is the biggest asshole of them all, enabling ISIS by supplying funds and weapons to rebels groups to overthrow Assad.

If you remove Assad, who takes over? hmmmmmm.. think real carefully

What do you think is going to happen if SAA/Russia is going to take back Idlib and the rest of Daraa? Of course there will be more refugees and the middle eastern and Europe countries will get more of them.

Yeah...that's a lot of people and it's a strong foothold into the middle east.



...I mean, who would you want to win? You have Assad, you have Al-Qaeda, you have ISIS.

The US already have an idea of who they support and it's neither of those three and also they want to get rid of Assad, but keep the rest of the gov. Whatever if those are realistic doesn't really matter since that's the position they are on now.

 

[Currygan]

at this point it's best to shake the devil's hand if he's (willingly? who cares) helping to eradicate these dickbags out of the planet. ISIS first

 

[gutter_trash]

at this point it's best to shake the devil's hand to help eradicate these dickbags out of the planet. ISIS first

pretty much

on the scale of evil, ISIS takes the cake.

It is time for planet Earth to set aside their differences and all join forces to eliminate ISIS.

 

[Zoon]

Good.It will be really bad if ISIS had control of Syria's weaponry.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Putin is the action hero we deserve not the one we need.

 

[faridmon]

Russia cares more about that naval Port than human life. Humanitarian Crisis if anything is going to get worse with Russia actively involved now.

Honestly makes me so mad that no one is doing anything to remove Assad's ass from the throne. Its even more infuriating Countries like Russia are supporting him.

It tears me apart inside that a friend of mine who have families in Syria and he is super worried about their safety. Just talking to him makes me weep inside. He is a broken dude and all because of Assad.

Good.It will be really bad if ISIS had control of Syria's weaponry.

REALLY?

 

[Abinash117]

Good.It will be really bad if ISIS had control of Syria's weaponry.

They are already do, brah .

this would sound a lot like Watchmen's plan if the situation wasn't so goddamned serious

Earth isn't going to 'banded' together to fight ISIS. This isn't a movie lmao.

 

[Currygan]

pretty much

on the scale of evil, ISIS takes the cake.

It is time for planet Earth to set aside their differences and all join forces to eliminate ISIS.

this would sound a lot like Watchmen's plan if the situation wasn't so goddamned serious

 

[Goro Majima]

I'm really all for whatever will stabilize Syria in the long term and if that means military intervention, so be it. I think that's the only way this refugee problem gets handled long term rather than trying to integrate several million people into other countries.

The alternative seems to be watching this shit drag out forever and having more and more refugees. Either way people are dying.

 

[gutter_trash]

what do you guy think will replace Assad if he is removed?

The alternative is worse than him

 

[Zophar]

Sickening that we're forced into propping up a ruthless shithead because it would otherwise galvanize a fighting force of pure evil and destruction Westerners are responsible for, due to hubris and ignorance. God damn this stupid world.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Sickening that we're forced into propping up a ruthless shithead because it would otherwise galvanize a fighting force of pure evil and destruction Westerners are responsible for, due to hubris and ignorance. God damn this stupid world.

Unless you are Russian or Iranian then we are not really propping him up the only thing we did for him was not kick him out when the choice was there.

 

[Currygan]

Sickening that we're forced into propping up a ruthless shithead because it would otherwise galvanize a fighting force of pure evil and destruction Westerners are responsible for, due to hubris and ignorance. God damn this stupid world.

it does indeed, but you gotta play with the cards you're dealt

 

[Coriolanus]

Just looked it up and is this map serious?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War#/media/File:Syrian_civil_war.png

Red is the government, Green rebels, Grey is ISIS, and Yellow are the Kurds.

Holy shit that's alot of ISIS.

Most of the grey is desert. No man's land.

 

[Walpurgis]

 

[Winter John]

This is a direct result of Obama's complete failure to deal with Assad back in 2012. If Obama had acted swiftly and removed him all of this mess would have been avoided. Now ISIS and God knows what else are out there murdering and terrorizing innocent people while Putin continues with his expansionist plans.

 

[Abinash117]

Sickening that we're forced into propping up a ruthless shithead because it would otherwise galvanize a fighting force of pure evil and destruction Westerners are responsible for, due to hubris and ignorance. God damn this stupid world.

No one is propping up Assad besides Iranian and Russia. I believe Iran has been doing that since around the start of the war and Russia has been giving the gov some aid for a bit.

 

[gutter_trash]

This is a direct result of Obama's complete failure to deal with Assad back in 2012. If Obama had acted swiftly and removed him all of this mess would have been avoided. Now ISIS and God knows what else are out there murdering and terrorizing innocent people while Putin continues with his expansionist plans.

correction, this is a direct result of the 2003 war in Iraq that destabilized the entire region.

FYI, Assad is against ISIS

 

[Cow Mengde]

America should send ISIS some more weapons like they did before.

 

[Xando]

This is a direct result of Obama's complete failure to deal with Assad back in 2012. If Obama had acted swiftly and removed him all of this mess would have been avoided.

Because removing saddam and Gaddafi went so smoothly, right?

 

[ibyea]

what do you guy think will replace Assad if he is removed?

The alternative is worse than him

People keep saying that like it's obvious, but he is the one that escalated the war to such a horrific extent. Furthermore his regime practices torture in pretty much industrial scale. Really there is no worse or better. There is only equally bad options.

Another thing people keep saying is that Syria is going to become like Libya if Assad is removed but that is laughable because the Syrian Civil War is so much worse than the Second Libyan Civil War. One should be worried instead that Libya is going to become like Syria.

 

[Walpurgis]

America should send ISIS some more weapons like they did before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSIdB-IYIqk
Just imagine that Bart is ISIS and China is America.

 

[Zophar]

No one is propping up Assad besides Iranian and Russia. I believe Iran has been doing that since around the start of the war and Russia has been giving the gov some aid for a bit.

Do you really think Western powers will act to remove Assad while ISIS still persists in Syria? Or resist Russia's efforts to equip him? How is that not an implicit culpability in his regime?

 

[Coriolanus]

it does indeed, but you gotta play with the cards you're dealt

Y'mean "you gotta play with the cards those shitheads at the end of WW1 chose to deal".

 

[Kurdel]

This is a direct result of Obama's complete failure to deal with Assad back in 2012. If Obama had acted swiftly and removed him all of this mess would have been avoided. Now ISIS and God knows what else are out there murdering and terrorizing innocent people while Putin continues with his expansionist plans.

US/NATO intervention would not have installed national hegemony, and we would still see the Isis portions, and the Kurds would be de facto part of the post intervention Syria, which weakens their actual position.

Boots on the ground would have lead to an prolonged insurgency worse than seen in Iraq.

I have been thinking about this recently, I don't think intervention would have done much, seeing how split Syrians are.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

why?
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and UAE have been funding Sunni rebels and ISIS to overthrow Assad.

Assad is against ISIS
Iran is against ISIS.

IMO, gotta squash ISIS first

lol, people think its that simple?

Assad basically let ISIS take the north-east of Syria, cuz ISIS at the time was and still is fighting the rebvels and the Kurds more.

Assad rarely bombs ISIS targets, almost never.

 

[Winter John]

correction, this is a direct result of the 2003 war in Iraq that destabilized the entire region.

FYI, Assad is against ISIS

Nonsense. If that was true they would have risen up 10 years ago. It doesn't matter if Assad is against ISIS. He should have been removed in 2012. Instead Obama sat back and allowed a void to be created a vacuum which was filled by ISIS

 

[FStubbs]

Nonsense. If that was true they would have risen up 10 years ago. It doesn't matter if Assad is against ISIS. He should have been removed in 2012. Instead Obama sat back and allowed a void to be created a vacuum which was filled by ISIS

And if we had gone in and taken Assad out, ISIS would have almost all of Syria now.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Y'mean "you gotta play with the cards those shitheads at the end of WW1 chose to deal".

Why stop at WWI? Lets go back to napoleons adventures in egypt, the suez canal, etc.

Spoiler

the world is a never ending series of events its pretty silly to play "its their fault"

 

[Abinash117]

Do you really think Western powers will act to remove Assad while ISIS still persists in Syria? Or resist Russia's efforts to equip him? How is that not an implicit culpability in his regime?

Western powers as in US mainly-well the answer is not really. Because the US is more considered in removing ISIS with using its own trained rebels and Kurds who work with them. The only really support US are giving the rebellion where some non lethal equipment and TOW missiles, in which specific vetted group are given missiles to use against the gov.The answer is if the gulf nations, Jordan, and Turkey will increase the support of the rebellion and they would probably will.

Russia's public support will escalate the situation with the gulf nations most likely.

 

[Clefargle]

pretty much

on the scale of evil, ISIS takes the cake.

It is time for planet Earth to set aside their differences and all join forces to eliminate ISIS.

I guess, it's a tough pill to swallow. But we gotta clear out those ISIS fucks before anything lasting will happen in the Middle East. Goddamn, what a shitshow.

 

[Winter John]

And if we had gone in and taken Assad out, ISIS would have almost all of Syria now.

No. If Obama had taken Assad out ISIS would not have been able to get a foothold in Syria. He could have stopped them long before they became organised by giving real aid to opposition forces.

 

[Polari]

Can someone clue me in as to who the good guys are in Syria?

 

[ibyea]

Can someone clue me in as to who the good guys are in Syria?

No one. Except perhaps the Kurds.