I really don't think this is the case unless her design was literally the very first thing they did related to the story. The parasites that give her her powers are the central point to the whole plot and they're the reason everything is happening. Without the parasites there is no story since no one would have a reason to be where they are.
Photosynthesis? Which multiple other characters in the series have? Who all wear clothes because Kojima didn't want to put half naked old men in the series.
I hear later on you unlock an outfit that actually covers her up a little. I look forward to the option. That said it doesn't bother me; just another ridiculous thing in a game full of ridiculous things.
The sexualization in Bayonetta is literally the point of the game. Bayonetta is in control of her sexuality, her provocative tendencies and serves an actual purpose. It's the closest thing to a female power fantasy on the market right now.
Quiet is just some chick in lingerie for no reason. It's dumb.
Hey Quiet, live up to your name and BE FUCKING QUIET!!!
And OP you're right. It's needless and honestly puts me off using her, I often play in the same room as my wife and kids and it makes me feel like I'm watching softcore porn in front of them. It's arseways Kojima stuff, same as Eve in MGS3.
Besides, DD is a way more useful sidekick, he dresses appropriately for the battlefield and his loyalty is unquestioned!
Bayonetta's never comes off as pointless, it's just portrayed as part of her personality, part of her style, etc.
Everything about Quiet comes off as a lame excuse. Correction. It is a lame excuse. Want to put her in a bikini? Fine. Where's the narrative justification for the fucking creepy leery camera? Kojima could atleast be direct with his intentions instead of trying to raise it as something it's not.
Wait can't you hire women as members of Diamond Dogs? and those women wear completely full armor like the men do...so literally quiet is the only one who wears that stuff
Compared to 90% of the cast of the other games, she's not that bad. Plus, she has the ability to to create mass confusion in enemy camps which is completely hilarious.
The woman is clad only in a slight bikini top and torn tights. She positions herself suggestively (bent over) and often her cleavage takes center frame in shots (such as taking her in the helicopter). When left alone in my base she lays on her stomach and undoes the string of her top to reveal even more of her ample breasts. When in my helicopter during a mission-select sequence she will stretch with her butt facing Snake (and by extension, the spectator).
Her breasts have their own jiggle physics.
She does not speak. Her abilities include disappearing entirely. She takes commands without question.
Thus far, she's the only woman I've encountered in the game, beyond the name of Mother Base.
The men on Mother Base hate her and initially try to kill her but instead restrain her and keep her locked in a cell. Men who try to clothe her leave the encounter "breathing through tubes."
The reason she refuses to wear clothes is that she takes air and water through her skin.
1) progress the story to understand why
2) Breasts cant have jiggle physicsl? MY WORD.
3) Progress story
4) Go recruit some women. I have S rank combat unit women who i deploy in the field time from time
5) progress story
6) progress story
in short, Progress story then be ashamed of words and deeds later. This thread is non issue.
Yep. If I play this game, will my girlfriend shake her head and immediately write off videogames as male-pandering and look at me like a child with a stupid hobby.
If It's embarrassing to be seen playing, something's off.
Isn't this also kind of MGS's thing? Are we all going to sit here and pretend the series isn't weird and bizarre and has overly sexualized characters period?
People acting like this is the first female in the MGS series to have her breasts hanging out and it most certainly isn't. I mean, yeah, she is overly sexualized but does it really matter in a series like MGS? It's ok for a bizarre game like Bayonetta to do it but not MGS?
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I think the introduction of the (post-mission 28 spoiler)
female parasite squad was even worse, zoomed in on exaggerated boob jiggle, followed by their wiggling thonged butts. Completely asinine.
And the excuse Quiet has for dressing like a sex fantasy is really uninspired. Does the game ever go into why she was in the opening scene and what happened to her?
No, but as someone pointed out elsewhere to me MGS, for all of its small touches of goofiness, is a series that actually does sort of want to be taken seriously about things like terrorism and warfare and the dangers of unchecked power and stuff. "Also boobies!" jars against that for a lot of people
Isn't this also kind of MGS's thing? Are we all going to sit here and pretend the series isn't weird and bizarre and has overly sexualized characters period?
People acting like this is the first female in the MGS series to have her breasts hanging out and it most certainly isn't. I mean, yeah, she is overly sexualized but does it really matter in a series like MGS? It's ok for a bizarre game like Bayonetta to do it but not MGS?
Compared to 90% of the cast of the other games, she's not that bad. Plus, she has the ability to to create mass confusion in enemy camps which is completely hilarious.
Haha, yeah. I told her to cover me yesterday, and she ended up knocking out every single soldier in the camp before I even got there, all while they were running around freaking out.
I initially thought this, too... But I've been using DD more and more. He doesn't cost any gmp to bring in and he spots EVERYTHING. I've used Quiet and had her miss some guards before. DD finds prisoners and mines constantly.
Alternate buddy outfit spoilers below!
Also, you can eventually get an outfit for DD that
It's so extreme and so omnipresent that whether Kojima is making a point about sexualization of women in games or just going full-fucking-otaku having realised how good the scan of Joosten came out (and my god, did it ever), there is no doubt that it is intentionally over the top.
Personally, it doesn't bother me. I'm a straight guy, and whenever I catch sight of Quiet's breasts or whatever I can't lie, I like the fact that the game is giving my lizard brain a little visual present.
What actually bothers me far more was later in the game (Chapter 2 spoilers)
Where I got two Mother Base cutscenes in a row (with a side op in between) where Snake oversees Quiet's torture, letting Ocelot be the one to stop it. (And it's massively stupid anyway as they must know she has the vocal parasite.) The very next scene is Quiet frolicking in the rain with Snake as doves fly overhead, putting on what feels like a quasi-strip-show for the player.
I have to be honest I felt quite (quiet?) conflicted after seeing that.
Considering how the rest of the story is I think it's possible that Kojima just completely lost control of the whole massive aparatus and there's not much to read into it.
Also, in Kojima's defence: Quiet has more of a story and arc
This is factually incorrect, they have some skin showing but they at least made a tiny bit of effort in making it look like they had some sort of suitable clothing. eg: http://www.twinfinite.net/wp-conten...-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain_1434525076.jpg
They are showing some leg and stomachs, but they are still wearing a lot more protective clothing than Quiet.
I will never understand why some people believe that a person coming to a video game forum to talk about something from a video game that bugs them means that it "deeply affects" them.
No, but as someone pointed out elsewhere to me MGS, for all of its small touches of goofiness, is a series that actually does sort of want to be taken seriously about things like terrorism and warfare and the dangers of unchecked power and stuff. "Also boobies!" jars against that for a lot of people
Eh, it's hard to play the realism card when there's a horse named D-Horse and fultons that yank knocked out soldiers into space. I can understand where you're coming from, though.
She's a pretty big part of the story. I just finished her arc.
The reason she's naked is silly and doesn't make a lot of sense (she can wear costumes and other characters like her wear clothes) the reason for her not speaking makes more sense and works relatively well.
She's also a good "buddy" but yeah, lots of weird provocative imagery and a lot of breast and ass shots. The most worrisome scene is pretty messed up, tho (spoilers for her final cut scene
she's seemingly raped by soviet soldiers, one tries to choke her/drown her while zipping his pants (necrophelia?) and then she stabs a bunch of dicks violently in retaliation.
I think it's distracting and juvenile. My dad walked in on me playing when Quiet was on the screen, and for the first time ever I felt the compulsion to quickly turn off the screen. It's just needlessly gratuitous and embarrassing.
Compared to 90% of the cast of the other games, she's not that bad. Plus, she has the ability to to create mass confusion in enemy camps which is completely hilarious.