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Konami ceases triple-A console production on all but PES

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why do some people think $80 million to make MGS5 is too much? While playing the game it makes sense.
 

Markoman

Member
Yup. Konami are being stupid by cutting console development entirely.


But hey, here are PES sales. FYI Fifa is >15m each year. Do keep in mind that whilst PES sales are dropping you now have mobile version + monetisation built in to the games.

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Wow, I'll give them two more years - then it's all over. In 5 years only 30-40 old gamers will remain to tell the story of a once great publisher.

You did it to yourselves, motherfukkas!!!!! The pachinko bubble will burst when Japanese finally realize that throwing coins into a fountain is actually more fun than playing pachinko.
 

goldenpp72

Member
I mean, Konami just showed off a ton of slides saying fuck consoles, and we're still posting about how they won't be working on consoles much anymore? Just seems redundant a bit, the Konami we held out hope for is gone, best scenario is they license their IP at this point.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I suppose the real question is if they'll bother to monetise their IPs via outsourcing or outright selling licenses, or if they'll squat on them. Even if I disagree with their direction, corporate greed that benefits the short term dollar does not go hand-in-hand with squandering properties that at the very least could fetch a pretty penny from interested parties. Metal Gear would be swept up in a second, and I imagine Silent Hill and Castlevania would have to be of some interest.

Then again, they may with to hold on to the properties for the sake of legacy, accessibility for churning out re-releases, capitalising on digital sales, and branding their pachinko machines.
 

swit

Member
Sony should snap up Kojima Productions and the MGS IP.

Just let Kojima get on with it and produce a game every 5 years or so. They've bankrolled and stood by Team ICO all these years, please do the same with Kojima.
oh, for fuck sake, he said multiple times that he is not interested in developing new Metal Gear games. Give him a decent budget and let him do whatever he want.
 

JeffZero

Purple Drazi
I suppose the real question is if they'll bother to monetise their IPs via outsourcing or outright selling licenses, or if they'll squat on them. Even if I disagree with their direction, corporate greed that benefits the short term dollar does not go hand-in-hand with squandering properties that at the very least could fetch a pretty penny from interested parties. Metal Gear would be swept up in a second, and I imagine Silent Hill and Castlevania would have to be of some interest.

Then again, they may with to hold on to the properties for the sake of legacy, accessibility for churning out re-releases, capitalising on digital sales, and branding their pachinko machines.

Hate to say it, but squatting seems the likelier scenario to me. Japanese publishers in particular seem more attuned to that decision, if what I have seen is anything to go by. It strikes me as a distinctly Japanese model.
 

Ricker

Member
So the fact that they are keeping the IP's,like Castlevania,for mobile means we will never see it again on consoles...

Sad day indeed...
 
This makes me worried about the life expectancy of MGO3 servers.

I wonder how many of those great IPs are going to get mobile games going forward. Mobile version of FOB incoming.
 
Konami is like that villain that is in the process of dying, but is desperately trying to drag the hero or one of his friends with him.

Basically...

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Trago

Member
These IP's are under a shitty roof now. This sucks. If anything, I hope the talent that left them, and the remaining talent that's there find new places to make killer games. They are the reasons we got such killer games anyway.
 

Red Mage

Member
People were pissed about Quiet before, but just imagine what Konami will do with her in the Adult Pachinko of MGS.
 
So sad that some of the few non-Nintendo IPs that are almost 30 years old, and part of out gaming history, are dead because of shitty corporate decisions.

Fuck you Konami.
 

thiscoldblack

Unconfirmed Member
Sad to see many great IPs go to waste. It seems like Japanese gamers decided with their pockets they're interested more in mobile gaming.

From all of this.. I wonder how Bemani, their music video game division, is doing. Although there are no more home releases (aside from an upcoming PC iteration of Beatmania IIDX), I believe they're doing well in the arcades. Please don't ruin Bemani, Konami!
 
It's no great loss really. Sure, Konami had some great IPs, but they had been poorly handled and all but one (MGS) has had their reputation destroyed. Even if Konami was still in AAA gaming, each successive release of Silent Hill or Catlevania would have been mediocre at best and terrible at worst.
 

Genio88

Member
I'm ok with that, a MGS without Kojima would be pointless, it's one of my favorite series but i'd rather see it dead than developed by someone other then Kojima.
Happy to hear they'll continue PES, since last episode it came back with a great game, way better then FIFA, and from just a few days i started playing PES 2016, it has been improved so much, really the best soccer experience available right now, i hope it'll have a long life
 

Markoman

Member
Konami is like that villain that is in the process of dying, but is desperately trying to drag the hero or one of his friends with him.

Basically...

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No, no, no. Sorry, you failed. I absolutely adored Hans Gruber, because he was kinda brilliant in his evilness. No way that Konami can be put in the top-tier-villain-list. Remember when Saddam was found in that whole? That's how Konami will end up.
 
Hopefully they license their IPs out to other devs and pubs, I mean it would fit Konami's current business model, zero investment for profit.
 

Bilollipop

Member
I was just thinking "whatever happened to that vita port of ZOE HD"
We're never getting it now ;_;
I guess all I can do now is listen to this song on repeat
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Hate to say it, but squatting seems the likelier scenario to me. Japanese publishers in particular seem more attuned to that decision, if what I have seen is anything to go by. It strikes me as a distinctly Japanese model.

Most likely, and it's bizarre, because if your company is making that much of a drastic shift away from traditional game development the value of many licenses diminishes significantly relative to the product you're producing. I'm sure Konami is interested in capitalising on something like Metal Gear for whatever mobile and pachinko garbage they cook up, but other licenses are pretty much DOA unless you're using them for what they were built for. And if your core business strategy has changed drastically to no longer accommodate said licenses, you might as well seek potential buyers.

We're talking about an industry where Sega scrapped Bayonetta 2 and were quite happy for Nintendo to pick up the license temporarily to front development and publishing for the game. Ultimately Sega didn't do shit except fund the original prototypes and early dev, and by passing the license for Bayo2 off, and publishing rights, they at least recouped some early investment.

It would be in Konami's short term dollar interest to basically do the same.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Can't say I am surprised. Hopefully they license out the IPs, so someone else can figure out a way to make them work.
 

meanspartan

Member
Well at least we can take solace that MGS 5 is one hell of a way to end a storied history in game development for Konami.

Not sad to see THIS Konami leave AAA games, but their history is worth remembering.
 
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