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[Blablurn]

[Week 38, 2015] PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2016 (KONAMI) >21,700 <27,600

PlayStation 4 - 68%
Xbox One - 17%
PlayStation 3 - 8%
Xbox 360 - 6%

Next week Fifa 16 will debut selling 40 times more.

RIP

 

[tzare]

I really don't think sims should come out bi yearly .
Have one and then update it with DLC and expansion .
After a year or two bring a GOTY edition with all the DD content .

yes. ALso shouldn't be released too early into each gen, since technically there's a lot to explore and adding DLC is great but game can look obsolete , visually, quite soon.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Forza 6 bundles incoming

Already a limited edition Forza 6 bundle and retailers are doing their own Forza 6 bundles.

 

[tuna_love]

Obviously everyone bought ultimate edition of forza

 

[c0de]

Forza 6 bundles incoming

We shouldn't judge it on bundles because there are many games that always got a lot of bundles, not only Forza. Also there already is a bundle.

 

[GHG]

[Week 38, 2015] PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2016 (KONAMI) >21,700 <27,600

PlayStation 4 - 68%
Xbox One - 17%
PlayStation 3 - 8%
Xbox 360 - 6%

Next week Fifa 16 will debut selling 40 times more.

And then Konami will go 100% mobile.

 

[Nightengale]

Racing games like Forza MS and GT IMO are better off embracing an evergreen one-flagship-game-a-gen approach.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Make me think how the next Gran Turismo will be.

 

[Tenebrous]

This is the last week before Fifa 16 tops the charts for months on end, right?

 

[Ghost Slayer]

And then Konami will go 100% mobile.

Konami ceases triple-A console production on all but mobile and pachinko

 

[soundscream]

Don't think Horizon series need any break yet.

Horizon is easy to make difference because they will develop the game with whole different location, unlike Motorsport which is always that 20+ tracks.

As of October 17 2014, 19 days after release Forza Horizon 2 was at 478,014 users

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134736646&postcount=4594

FM6 is basically at that after 11 days , why would they need to stop.

 

[spwolf]

Not even close. FIFA 15 sold 5M worldwide in the launch week, 1M just in the UK. PES 2015 sold less than 3M in 2 months.

3M is good for PES.... btw, what were the sales for 2015 first week in the UK?

 

[wapplew]

Make me think how the next Gran Turismo will be.

Sim racing glory days is over, I guess it won't sell as much as GT5.

 

[Nightengale]

As of October 17 2014, 19 days after release Forza Horizon 2 was at 478,014 users

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134736646&postcount=4594

FM6 is basically at that after 11 days , why would they need to stop.

Does that include demo players?

 

[Rymuth]

Hopefully Until Dawn's descent into the 20s will be at a snail's pace.

Racing games like Forza MS and GT IMO are better off embracing an evergreen one-flagship-game-a-gen approach.

I agree with this.

 

[LFMartins86]

[Week 38, 2015] PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2016 (KONAMI) >21,700 <27,600

PlayStation 4 - 68%
Xbox One - 17%
PlayStation 3 - 8%
Xbox 360 - 6%

Next week Fifa 16 will debut selling 40 times more.

Guess trying to launch it before FIFA was a bad idea. To be fair, it doesn´t help that the squads are still not updated for this season and it will probably take another week or so until they release the update.

 

[Hasney]

Those PES sales are likely within expectations. It probably doesn't cost them much to tweak every year and hell, they don't even hire anyone to update the rosters before launch.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Sim racing glory days is over, I guess it won't sell as much as GT5.

If this happens, big loss for Sony, it's a big franchise for them

 

[tzare]

Sim racing glory days is over, I guess it won't sell as much as GT5.

probably will be lower than GT5 but higher than GT6.
These kind of games are slow burners though so will end selling a decent number albeit at a discounted price or bundled.

 

[Nightengale]

If this happens, big loss for Sony, it's a big franchise for them

Kaz can finally make a new IP.

 

[Chris1]

God damn Forza bombed hard

but...

(95%)

XBO Forza Motorsport 6 >22,700 <38,100

XBO Forza Horizon 2 >37,700 <51,500

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Sims were never really that big to tell the truth.
When GT 7 comes out we will have a better idea of what happening.

 

[spwolf]

Those PES sales are likely within expectations. It probably doesn't cost them much to tweak every year and hell, they don't even hire anyone to update the rosters before launch.

depends on what they were last year in the UK... UK is low market for PES, since there are no licenses... Spain, Italy, France, thats where it should be at.... and pretty much everything else but UK and Germany.

 

[chromatic9]

Already has bundles.

They need some cheaper bundles. The 1tb custom Forza XBO is £350-370. The standard price since 2014 until recently for those that don't know is around £250 for the 500gb with a game, sometimes cheaper

The standard 1tb model is too expensive as well. I think MS need to stop trying to inflate the 1tb model. 1tb is £54 more expensive yet the difference in actual HDD cost is around £5.

 

[Hasney]

depends on what they were last year in the UK... UK is low market for PES, since there are no licenses... Spain, Italy, France, thats where it should be at.... and pretty much everything else but UK and Germany.

I was just trying to search for some numbers as I read this! But you're right, other places will be key rather than the UK.

For comparison, this is the closest I could find for numbers for PES 15 Week 1

01 (01) CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 182,160 / 974,160 (-77%)
02 (NE) ASSASSIN'S CREED: UNITY (UBISOFT) - 166,000 / NEW
03 (NE) HALO: THE MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION (MICROSOFT)
04 (02) FIFA 15 (ELECTRONIC ARTS) - 66,677 / 1,882,751 (+2%)
05 (NE) LEGO BATMAN 3: BEYOND GOTHAM (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
06 (NE) ASSASSIN'S CREED: ROGUE (UBISOFT)
07 (06) MINECRAFT: PLAYSTATION EDITION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
08 (NE) PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2015 (KONAMI)
09 (NE) WORLD OF WARCRAFT: WARLORDS OF DRAENOR (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
10 (05) DESTINY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)

Worth noting that it totally dropped out of the Top 40 individual formats the week after.

 

[soundscream]

Does that include demo players?

No.

 

[Floody]

Sims were never really that big to tell the truth.
When GT 7 comes out we will have a better idea of what happening.

GT was very big (GT5 + Prolog sold like 15 million units), it's always been by far the biggest seller though, so it could hide or cover that most others in the genre don't sell crazy well.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

Out of all the genres in gaming (barring a few massive hitters - COD, FIFA, GTA Etc), racing games seem to have the most legs.

I would imagine FM6 will have good legs in the charts and will also be heavily bundles as a way to entice new buyers into Xbox.

 

[spwolf]

I was just trying to search for some numbers as I read this! But you're right, other places will be key rather than the UK.

For comparison, this is the closest I could find for numbers for PES 15 Week 1



Worth noting that it totally dropped out of the Top 40 individual formats the week after.

so about the same volume but in much lower week... it should be good for long term sales.

I expect worldwide to increase this year due to great reviews...

 

[RibMan]

Thanks for the numbers Bruno. I know Forza games sell poorly, but I honestly thought Forza 6 would do better in the UK. I wonder if the Top Gear affiliation is just completely ineffective at this point.

 

[chromatic9]

GT6 is a weird one. I've bought every GT except GT6, it felt more like a re-release of 5 or an anniversary edition with some clean up. Is that how millions more seen it?

I reckon GT7 will be up there with the other GT games but maybe the genre is a bit stale and fallen off a bit, only time will tell. GT7 could land at a great time as right now we may just be in driving game fatigue. I also think GT7 will have to have some impressive graphics.

 

[BKK]

All Formats (95%)

01 (NE) DESTINY: THE TAKEN KING (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) ~66,900 / NEW
02 (NE) FORZA MOTORSPORT 6 (MICROSOFT) <38,100 / NEW
03 (NE) PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2016 (KONAMI) <27,600 / NEW
04 (01) METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN (KONAMI) 17,200 / 224,400 [-54%]
05 (03) MAD MAX (AVALANCHE STUDIOS (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE) [-45%]
06 (02) SUPER MARIO MAKER (NINTENDO) <15,700 [-58%]
07 (07) GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2) [+3%]
08 (04) DISNEY INFINITY 3.0 (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS) [-18%]
09 (NE) RUGBY LEAGUE LIVE 3 (ALTERNATIVE)
10 (08) LEGO JURASSIC WORLD (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
11 (06) GEARS OF WAR: ULTIMATE EDITION (MICROSOFT) <4,700
12 (09) MINECRAFT: XBOX EDITION (MICROSOFT)
13 (05) UNTIL DAWN (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
14 (24) CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) {+124%]
15 (NE) NHL 16 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (10) MINECRAFT: PLAYSTATION EDITION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
17 (12) DYING LIGHT (TECHLAND (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
18 (14) MADDEN NFL 16 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
19 (15) DESTINY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
20 (19) CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
21 (13) BATMAN: ARKHAM KNIGHT (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
22 (21) LEGO BATMAN 3: BEYOND GOTHAM (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
23 (11) THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
24 (18) SKYLANDERS TRAP TEAM (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
25 (RE) TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS) [+265%]
26 (27) TERRARIA (505 GAMES)
27 (17) FIFA 15 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
28 (23) LITTLEBIGPLANET 3 (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
29 (16) BATTLEFIELD HARDLINE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
30 (30) RUGBY WORLD CUP 2015 (UBISOFT)
31 (32) FAR CRY 4 (UBISOFT)
32 (35) DISNEY INFINITY 2.0 (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
33 (22) THE LAST OF US: REMASTERED (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) <1,300
34 (20) F1 2015 (CODEMASTERS)
35 (36) MORTAL KOMBAT X (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
36 (26) THE WITCHER III: WILD HUNT (BANDAI NAMCO ENTERTAINMENT)
37 (38) LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
38 (39) FARMING SIMULATOR 15 (KOCH MEDIA)
39 (RE) FAST & FURIOUS: SHOWDOWN (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
40 (31) DISHONORED: DEFINITIVE EDITION (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)

 

[spwolf]

GT was very big (GT5 + Prolog sold like 15 million units), it's always been by far the biggest seller though, so it could hide or cover that most others in the genre don't sell crazy well.

GT7 as first entry on PS4 should sell like hotcakes.

 

[LFMartins86]

so about the same volume but in much lower week... it should be good for long term sales.

I expect worldwide to increase this year due to great reviews...

Doubtful. Last year the game released 2 months after FIFA, there was some FIFA fatigue by some players at that time which made them also get PES. It´s true that PES had great reviews this year but last years reviews were also good and in all around the web you can see people complaining of weak GKs, terrible referees, laggy online matches and out of date squads.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

GT6 is a weird one. I've bought every GT except GT6, it felt more like a re-release of 5 or an anniversary edition with some clean up. Is that how millions more seen it?

I reckon GT7 will be up there with the other GT games but maybe the genre is a bit stale and fallen off a bit, only time will tell. GT7 could land at a great time as right now we may just be in driving game fatigue. I also think GT7 will have to have some impressive graphics.

I think open world racer will still good, but i guess we will have to see upcoming NFS launch numbers.

 

[Conduit]

I agree, Horizon 2 number show player starting to move away from sim racer.
They just not that exciting anymore.

GT7 with VR support can be awesome.

 

[tattooed_dwarf]

Horizon 2 also launch friday in UK(Europe).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_Horizon_2
"October 3, 2014"

Really, ouch!

 

[twinturbo2]

Sim racing glory days is over, I guess it won't sell as much as GT5.

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

It could, but how many would you honestly attribute to that #. I just did a clean lap because I hadn't raced that track since day 1 with all assist on, and did a clean lap and am now ranked 4535 and in the top 1%. So that's at least 448,965 accounts that have played the game. So even if you want to say 48,000 are on a shared account its still over 400k.

Impossible to say and for that reason we can't take the numbers from there as anywhere close to accurate for even an estimation of it's WW sales.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

At least it maybe better than Forza 6

 

[SolidSnakex]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

Is that somehow hard to believe?

The first console entry for every GT in particular is a sales beast.

 

[Loudninja]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

Ok?

It will be the first GT on the PS4 so yeah it will be a big deal,even GT6 is still charting on PSN today.

 

[GHG]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

I don't understand why you don't think that will happen. That's probably the minimum expectation for the game.

 

[Aceofspades]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

Thats not far fetched tbh.

 

[Percy]

I've always been under the impression that Forza has never really been an especially popular series sales wise with the past few entries seemingly being heavily bundle reliant in order to reach the bigger numbers they eventually got to. I'd imagine it'll be a similar story with the new one, but even so... mainline entry debuting lower than spin off? Could be franchise fatigue due to annual release schedule for the brand I guess, but even so... not a good look.

Spoiler

Or maybe people are just sick of corridor racers

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Spoiler

Or maybe people are just sick of corridor racers

Game has no soul confirmed

 

[Mokubba]

Sim racing glory days is over, I guess it won't sell as much as GT5.

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

First GT on PS4 and with how Europe loves the PS4 and with other territories in Asia getting in on the action compared to the PS3 days, I don't see why GT7 can't do 10 million.

I think it will decline in Japan and the US compared to GT5 but the other countries should pick up the slack.

 

[noobie]

All Formats (95%)

11 (06) GEARS OF WAR: ULTIMATE EDITION (MICROSOFT) <4,700
13 (05) UNTIL DAWN (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)

Until Dawn loosing steam. Look like Word of Mouth is not helping much or there is not much Word of Mouth for it.

 

[Hasney]

Until Dawn loosing steam. Look like Word of Mouth is not helping much or there is not much Word of Mouth for it.

That's pretty good for most games that have been out as long.

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Forza 6 is sitting at <400,000 a week after release its doing just fine.

I got that number by checking the Rio track for the S class leader boards(anyone who plays the game with an online connection will post a time). I'm currently ranked 135,000 and in the top 32% of scores.

Everyone loves overacting in sales threads.

Pretty much