brandonh83
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For me, no. It's more like just how weird it is. People have cited more than enough examples. You have opinions and preferences, but it just feels wholly uninformed. Mario Maker is on there and it came out a few weeks ago.
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Edge Special List: The 100 Greatest Video Games
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For me, no. It's more like just how weird it is. People have cited more than enough examples. You have opinions and preferences, but it just feels wholly uninformed. Mario Maker is on there and it came out a few weeks ago.
What are those game you're talking about?!
Seriously though, it all depends one's tolerance for bad gameplay. I didn't last long in W3.
I find the no sequels criterion weird, especially since there are multiple Zelda games in the list, but the second criterion seems fair enough to me. There are already lots of 'canon' style lists.
Sir Blaming
Member
I always love these threads. Every time I enter one I see a bunch of nostalgic people proclaiming their nostalgia in big chunks of words. Oh and what is this? "The Ultimate Collection of Modern Classics"? I wonder.
Other than that, most people will go "It's a bad list", "X game is not inside, worst list", and of course, "X game is inside this list, horrible list".
Other than that, most people will go "It's a bad list", "X game is not inside, worst list", and of course, "X game is inside this list, horrible list".
destiny is higher than majora's mask
Unbelievable.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
I mean all that doesn't make it a objectively better game to the people making this list.
Great to see a unique list without the regular games. Still the abscens of Gran Turismo and Metal Gear is crazy. But they include game like Trials and Nidhogg in the top 50 games of all time. Makes no sense! Still love that they include Driveclub, the best racing game the last 10 years
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imo
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Some of y'all on the first page are saying this is a list for modern games, but nah they have Link to the Past and Earthbound on here. This shit is straight weird and Super Mario Maker hasn't even been out for a whole month.
pinkurocket
Member
Not a list I agree with in the slightest, but if they have their reasons for these ranks then good for them.
Silent Hill 2 am cry.
It makes the list very strange, in the very least.
Pilgrimzero
Member
It took me forever to get passed the beginning village due to how bored I was. Things started speeding up then I had to wake up some girls dad.. oh god. Then the fetch quests in town.
Then more fetch quests. Then the inside of the fish. Quit.
I did end up beating it though. Eventually. It does ramp up in excitement but it takes it FOREVER to get there.
Wind Waker was better. And probably the "best" of the new style of Zeldas. Series peaked at LttP though. Now that had a great opening and awesome pacing.
brandonh83
Banned
You do... realize that a bunch of these "nostalgic" games are classics and considered to be incredible for very valid reasons other than being "old," right? Throwing around words like nostalgia is being completely ignorant of the impeccable game design found in most of them. In this list, Limbo for example is above Metroid Prime. There is, indisputably, better game design per square foot of that game compared to Limbo.
Not trying to be rude at all, but this is heavily misguided.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
They have Dark Souls as #1 and I see Bloodborne, Demon's Souls, RE4, Pac-Man CE, P4G, and Xenoblade on the list so I can't get mad at them.
In all fairness, imagine if someone made a "The 100 Greatest Movies" list and then put Jurassic World on there. One could certainly justify it, but it would also certainly initially cause mild disbelief. I don't really mind. It's just lists. Inevitably many titles are going to be left out.
depths20XX
Member
This is honestly the worst top 100 list I've ever seen.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Why can't Mario Maker be on this list? How much time needs to pass to think a game is one of the best?
I don't think it does but thats your opinion.
dead souls
Member
Yep. Wait a decade or so and that top 4 is going to look even more ridiculously stupid than it does right now.
The man speaks truth. The game is ridiculously overrated (not saying it's bad, just not top 10, or even top 50 worthy if we're talking games that are fun to play today).
I'm playing through SoTN for the first time right now, and THAT is a game that holds up.
No Soul Reaver is also a crime.
My entire top ten is on there, including Pac-Man: CE over the mess that is CE DX, so I can't complain.
Really interesting list with a focus on games that people would actually choose to play, even if I wouldn't personally have GTA V and TLoU anywhere near the top. Excited to read the essays.
Really interesting list with a focus on games that people would actually choose to play, even if I wouldn't personally have GTA V and TLoU anywhere near the top. Excited to read the essays.
Seeing this list just reinforces to me what a meaningless endeavor projects like this are, especially when it's portrated as just titles in a row. Works better with descriptive text to support the selections no doubt, but still feels more haphazard than comprehensive.
Have a few issues with various choices, but more than individual taste the heavy weight towards the last few years feels inappropriate and short sighted. Need to give games room to breathe before deciding where they belong in the pantheon.
Have a few issues with various choices, but more than individual taste the heavy weight towards the last few years feels inappropriate and short sighted. Need to give games room to breathe before deciding where they belong in the pantheon.
What confuses me is, this is supposed to be a modern classics list (hense all the newer games), but Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, and the original Bomberman are still on there? That's pretty inconsistent, it seems. And if it's the 'make sure all the games play well today still', it seems odd that games like Chrono Trigger and Super Mario Bros. 3 are missing.
Also, Super Mario Maker just came out, it feels way too soon to be throwing it on a Top 100 list.
Also, Super Mario Maker just came out, it feels way too soon to be throwing it on a Top 100 list.
brandonh83
Banned
There's obviously not some phantom time frame, it just seems a little kneejerk-- and I love Mario Maker.
Like every single "best games of" list (or more generally any "best" list ever made. Lately the PC Gamer yearly best of all time has been realy bad imo) it is very subjective and will ruffle feathers, but as a PS4/ PC gamer (and previously PS3/ PC), I'd say it really is making a case for the combo (bit surprised at LBP3 though. Did they fix all the glitches, many of which were sometime level-breaking?).
WiiU/ Nintendo fans should also be pretty happy with this specific list, even if in the end, it's just someone's 'best of' list.
WiiU/ Nintendo fans should also be pretty happy with this specific list, even if in the end, it's just someone's 'best of' list.
No Chrono Trigger
DONE DONE DONE DONE DONE
Amazing game, still one of the best turn based experiences around. Half Life 2 and OoT are high too, and CT holds up better IMO.
Also, Fire Emblem 7, 8, 9 and 10 are better than Awakening.
Destiny, my fucking god... I'm done reading this piece of garbage.
DONE DONE DONE DONE DONE
Amazing game, still one of the best turn based experiences around. Half Life 2 and OoT are high too, and CT holds up better IMO.
Also, Fire Emblem 7, 8, 9 and 10 are better than Awakening.
Destiny, my fucking god... I'm done reading this piece of garbage.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
People arent noticing the whole rule that a game needs to hold up today. Thats why theres no Goldeneye or Half Life.
No Chrono Trigger is definitely bullshit though
No Chrono Trigger is definitely bullshit though
the original bomberman doesn't even have multiplayer. that's the hallmark of the series. lmao
without the multiplayer, it's pretty much a warp & warp clone.
if you're going to "honor" classic series, please pick better representative titles...
it takes less than 5 minutes if you know what you're doing
if you got bored with the beginning of ocarina of time, good luck playing any of the newer zeldas. I'm not sure how you got through the opening of wind waker without getting bored. the forced tutorials on windfall island? the forced stealth section?
if ocarina of time is poorly paced then damn near every game is poorly paced, especially newer games, which are bogged down by forced tutorials and story/dialogue to get you settled into the world.
throwing games that are less than a year old on a list like this is ridiculous. less than a fucking month is insanity. not far enough removed from the hype.
lolosgolos
Banned
Shit phone auto correct done that on the spelling.
They're talking about Saturn Bomberman.
Nocturnowl
Member
Nothing like a good old top 100 list, or any list for that matter where nothing ever sits quite right for anyone.
I suppose I can grasp this one as an interesting take on 100 games for the modern gamer to play as most in here are more recent and therefore readily accessible and the older titles still hanging around are enduring ones that are often just a download away on one of the console stores.
Though I've said it before and I'll say it again, Edge's commitment to the Little Big Planet series is enduring if nothing else.
Now excuse me while I vomit for its inclusion over many many superior 2D platformers.
(actually I should probably finish LBP3 first, maybe it gets drastically better...nah)
I suppose I can grasp this one as an interesting take on 100 games for the modern gamer to play as most in here are more recent and therefore readily accessible and the older titles still hanging around are enduring ones that are often just a download away on one of the console stores.
Though I've said it before and I'll say it again, Edge's commitment to the Little Big Planet series is enduring if nothing else.
Now excuse me while I vomit for its inclusion over many many superior 2D platformers.
(actually I should probably finish LBP3 first, maybe it gets drastically better...nah)
well that's the best pick but why wouldn't the person that typed the list include that?
lolosgolos
Banned
Dark Souls starts out with shit gameplay till you start leveling up also
What core mechanics are those? Shoot enemies watch numbers fly out of them? Grindy leveling systems?
If we're judging games by one aspect only, we might as well put Alpha Protocol on that list for having one of the most impressive RPG conversation and story progression systems ever.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Nocturnowl, you're from the UK. Explain Edge/Eurogamer's commitment to LBP over DKC2/Yoshi's Island/SMB3/Sonic2&3&K/Mega Man 2&9/etc
How does games like Planescape Torment or Baldur's Gate 2 not hold up today?
depths20XX
Member
Like R-Type Final is on there. Not only is it not a very good shooter it's not even a very good R-Type game. Like that's some dumb shit right there.
Razorback
Member
You know what, I'm ok with this. Games aren't like movies in the sense that age isn't a big factor in their quality.
In games it absolutely is. Game mechanics and technical polish is something that builds over time.
Their choices aren't exactly in line with my tastes but at least the usual suspects didn't make the top of the list.
Ocarina of time? Give me a break, that thing is unplayable by today's standards.
In games it absolutely is. Game mechanics and technical polish is something that builds over time.
Their choices aren't exactly in line with my tastes but at least the usual suspects didn't make the top of the list.
Ocarina of time? Give me a break, that thing is unplayable by today's standards.
Sir Blaming
Member
You do... realize that a bunch of these "nostalgic" games are classics and considered to be incredible for very valid reasons other than being "old," right? Throwing around words like nostalgia is being completely ignorant of the impeccable game design found in most of them. In this list, Limbo for example is above Metroid Prime. There is, indisputably, better game design per square foot of that game compared to Limbo.
Not trying to be rude at all, but this is heavily misguided.
No, I understand. Err...I would like to say that this is a option piece and placing don't mean a thing, but that is wrong. I will never want to indicate a downplay of the implication of Metroid to the gaming industry.
Yeah I did not write that properly. It's just that its funny how people stick to nostalgia rather than giving newer, more polished games a chance. But in a way that is wrong too cause old game created the mechanics, which in turn got polished by new games....so the question is who is the greater one? The old or the new?
Sorry, I went /rant there.
I never said it's wrong, it's just funny how its a recurring thing that happens in every top X.
i guess they like watching poorly aged 3d backgrounds scroll by slowly while waiting for enemies to shoot at.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
R-Type Final gets on these lists cuz they need a shmup to represent the genre, and Final is a game they heard about. It was either this or Ikaruga, fellas.
lyrick
Member
Their criteria for "Holds up today" will probably fall flat when one considers if it will continue to hold up tomorrow... There's a lot of popular, possibly flash in the pan fluff in that list.
The concept behind this list is great for selling future yearly lists as a lot of these games won't be here next time.
astroturfing
Member
i'd say it is. Tetris is basically one great idea, and Dark Souls (or rather Demon's Souls) is like a few dozen incredible ideas.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Not to be a asshole but what's "kneejerk" about it? I could see what your saying if it was titanfall or another online multiplayer after one week. But mario maker isn't going change significantly in a month well those would.
JudgmentJay
Member
Nah, it doesn't.