Astral Dog
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im sorry, but no it can't, it is what it is.
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Metroid Prime Federation Force can be "saved"
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Well think of it this way, what if Federation Force attracts new players into the series and Nintendo use those players to increase sales of the series.
Remember the Metroid series isn't a big seller and growing the Metroid series is a good way of doing that.
Athreous
Member
Sorry guys, but looks like Nintendo fanboys will accept and love any trash that nintendo throw at them...
Pokemon is almost the same game for like 20 years...
Mario too (except Galaxy/64 which actually evolved)
Prime was a great add to the series, but Nintendo kind killed it for me with pimball and hunters...
And just look at the wii games, omg...
For them, it's all about money, and the fans are willing to pay for bad games, just to "support" nintendo.
Pokemon is almost the same game for like 20 years...
Mario too (except Galaxy/64 which actually evolved)
Prime was a great add to the series, but Nintendo kind killed it for me with pimball and hunters...
And just look at the wii games, omg...
For them, it's all about money, and the fans are willing to pay for bad games, just to "support" nintendo.
Weltall Zero
Member
I'm not sure anything can save it in the eyes of those that have already condemned it. At worst, a half-baked campaign (and let's be honest, that's what it would be) would only manage to sour the experience for everyone, not just current naysayers.
As usual with Nintendo, I think it's best to just release the game and see what happens. At most I would remove the Metroid franchise attachment, as it seems to be the biggest point of contention, so that those that still hate it to safely ignore it, rather than berate it for taking a "Metroid game slot" or whatever their rationale is for not seeing this as a harmless spinoff.
As usual with Nintendo, I think it's best to just release the game and see what happens. At most I would remove the Metroid franchise attachment, as it seems to be the biggest point of contention, so that those that still hate it to safely ignore it, rather than berate it for taking a "Metroid game slot" or whatever their rationale is for not seeing this as a harmless spinoff.
Spyder_Monkey
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Athreous
Member
I mean you're wrong, but continue to live in that fantasy world anyway
Nintendo fanboy spotted.
Nintendo's always been about money, it's a corporation, not a charity. It's just managed to often release great games in its pursuit of consumers' wallets.
And Metroid Prime Pinball is fucking great. Not the best Nintendo pinball game (that would be Pokemon Pinball Ruby and Sapphire), but still a great game. If Metroid Prime Federation Force is as good of a shooter as Metroid Prime Pinball is as a pinball game, I'll probably end up enjoying it.
I think after the initial bad reaction to Federation Force, they're going to keep it under wraps until they can reveal it again in a much more polished state with more exciting gameplay missions than Horde Mode or capturing snow beasts.
They're not going to cancel a Next Level Games title that's already in a playable state, especially when the 3DS really needs more releases for the next few years.
Devilgunman
Member
Every company does their business for money. It's not just Nintendo.
Also, you shouldn't go around and use that word on people.
outunderthestars
Banned
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Yeah, calling bullshit on your asinine opinion is totally fanboy behavior.
WII LIBRARY LOLOLOLOLOL.
Lionel Richie
Member
Man, "low budget" absolutely isn't the same thing as shovelware. Plus, none of these games needs a very high budget to be well done and neither was mailed in or done without passion whatsoever. They are still very high quality games, it's not like Nintendo went the full IDGAF route of THPS5.
You might not have fun with those games, but that doesn't mean they're fucking shovelware.
To be honest, they might try a free to start model after the backlash (in addition to a retail release). There's probably going to be a demo, at the very least.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Honestly I thought this was a spinoff. Is it supposed to be a mainline entry? Make it 20 dollars at launch and it'll be fine. Cause seriously it looks OK, but it seems more like an extra mode in an actual entry rather than a standalone title.
Spyder_Monkey
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Fanboy is such a weak insult. Tell us how you really feel.
Linkstrikesback
Member
It's not the same thing as a smash bros character slot being taken by a clone which is obviously what you were trying to suggest here.
It will have taken 2-3 solid years of development work from a talented studio (Luigis mansion 2 and Punch out Wii were great) who have worked on nothing else since Luigis Mansion 2. That's hardly the same argument as implying a clone is fine because it requires much less development time.
If they weren't willing to invest properly in a full metroid prime console game, and instead wanted a cheaper title on 3DS , then what should have happened is this. Nintendo should have had someone work on a 2D metroid game ala fusion/zero mission/super metroid, because we've not had one for more than a decade.
Instead we got this, which few people want, is a massive waste of talented developer, is the second mediocre title in a row for a franchise that by all means seems to be on life support at the moment. I half expect them to try baiting us with the "If the game fails, the series is probably dead!" that they have done with Chibi Robo and fire emblem.
Empyrean Heaven
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Fun fact, the Federation Force trailer is the most hated video game trailer in YouTube history.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLirAqAtl_h2q5aPpoYh1ofMC2EXo7OlwH #32
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLirAqAtl_h2q5aPpoYh1ofMC2EXo7OlwH #32
bingo.
Diablohead
Member
Blast Ball looks really fun and I can see that being stand alone at some point, but the main game looks really ugh.
Nintendo breaking all the records, huh.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
It is.
No.
Wouldn't the price be better adjusted by the amount of content? We have no idea how big the game is.
bobbychalkers
Member
Feels like System Wars post from 06
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Technically chibi means short.
I don't think so. The same can be said of Mario Tennis Ultra Smash. It's releasing in a month and we haven't hear jack of it since E3 as well... We don't even know if it's going to have online MP.
What I think about Fed. Force is that the game will have intense changes on pretty much everything since the awful reception at E3. Probably by the time they show a new trailer of Fed. Force, it will look completely different than what we saw at E3 (hopefully)
Jesus Christ... That's what happens when you reveal a spin-off that nobody asked for of a beloved franchise that it's been on hiatus for so long and after millions of requests from the fans asking for a proper Metroid game, they send us Fed. Force instead. People literally got offended with that and that's why the trailer is massively disliked. Gotta be honest: I also gave a dislike to the video
.Jesus Christ... That's what happens when you reveal a spin-off that nobody asked for of a beloved franchise that it's been on hiatus for so long and after millions of requests from the fans asking for a proper Metroid game, they send us Fed. Force instead. People literally got offended with that and that's why the trailer is massively disliked. Gotta be honest: I also gave a dislike to the video
That's true, but also a notable dose of overreaction.
UncleSporky
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Nintendo has shown and talked about barely anything since their CEO sadly passed away. Scrambling to pick up the pieces and reorganize.
I don't think so. The same can be said of Mario Tennis Ultra Smash. It's releasing in a month and we haven't hear jack of it since E3 as well... We don't even know if it's going to have online MP.
What I think about Fed. Force is that the game will have intense changes on pretty much everything since the awful reception at E3. Probably by the time they show a new trailer of Fed. Force, it will look completely different than what we saw at E3 (hopefully)
Jesus Christ... That's what happens when you reveal a spin-off that nobody asked for of a beloved franchise that it's been on hiatus for so long and after millions of requests from the fans asking for a proper Metroid game, they send us Fed. Force instead. People literally got offended with that and that's why the trailer is massively disliked. Gotta be honest: I also gave a dislike to the video
Please.
Last console gen got two new mainline Metroid games. Zelda is more important and the Wii U still hasn't gotten it's mainline Zelda yet.
People complaining about a Metroid hiatus don't know what hiatus means.
Power Bombs can't melt steel beams.
Coincidence?
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Not without authorization.
KuroPyonyo
Banned
Ehh? Zelda got a great new title in ALBW, 3 well made remakes and one competent spin off. Coming is a questionable spin off, TP HD and ofcourse Zelda U/NX. Metroids last title was bad and the upcoming title isn't what fans wan't (and very likely to be bad).
I see no reason for Zelda fans to complain.
Linkstrikesback
Member
There were two zelda games on wii as well. Plus spinoffs. Zelda is basically a biyearly franchise at worst. This is the first metroid in 5 years (probably 6 by the time it launches). And 8 (9) since the last game that fans didn't widely pan. It's not the same. You could at least have said F-zero or something if you wanted an example of a similar series on hiatus.
Nintendoga
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Zelda has also gotten two mainline Wii titles, along with multiple DS spin offs, a Wii spinoff, 3DS mainline game, two 3DS remakes, spinoff on Wii-U, and another spinoff coming out later this month. Not to mention a mainline Wii-U game coming out next year.
Metroid has only had two titles released in the past 10 years. Not counting the Re-Release of the Prime Trilogy. I'd think people are in the right to complain about Metroid not getting many games.
Edit: Whoops forgot Prime Hunters. Still though...
GhostTrick
Banned
You know, its good to have opinions. But its better to have argument. I would be curious ti know in what way these games are the same for 20 years, except for the fact you may never have touched any of them.
As for Wii games as you say, there's some masterpieces. I dont see whats your point here except for console war. Also, Metroid being killed by Pinball is laughable at best.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
As an artist, I find this games cheap fisher price art style to be unacceptable.
The Metroid Prime series has always had good art design with weird alien environments and creatures designs.
Compare this:
To this:
Before any of you say it's for kids, I know me and my friends loved all that creepy cool looking style much better than this badly designed mess. Even today, I know kids love games like Dead Space and Halo because it looked cool. This game just looks lame.
The Metroid Prime series has always had good art design with weird alien environments and creatures designs.
Compare this:
To this:
Before any of you say it's for kids, I know me and my friends loved all that creepy cool looking style much better than this badly designed mess. Even today, I know kids love games like Dead Space and Halo because it looked cool. This game just looks lame.
2/10, try again.
I really don't care about Federation Force in the slightest as of now, but so much of it comes down to how lackluster its announcement was. If they didnt put so much focus on soccer, if they made sure to say "this is a spin-off" instead of hyping it up as a return to form, and if they made sure to let everyone know that a "true" Metroid game is still in development (that's still a thing, right?). There was a lot stacked against it. Though not in the same league, think Xbox One, and how the initial impressions have remained in many people's minds. FedForce is like that on a much, much lower scale.
evilromero
Member
That sounds like a tall order and the argument is flawed. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze did not sell well. Neither did many traditionally big Nintendo franchises on the Wii U and 3DS. That doesn't mean the series isn't capable of selling well. But Nintendo should know that they're putting themselves further and further back in the minds of a gamer who would be attracted to a new Metroid. It's not reasonable to assume that a new Metroid would attract a core gaming audience immediately. It would take several releases, focused and intelligent marketing and consistent quality to do that.
Yeah no, it's not.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Good thing we have all these other mainline games like Mario and Zelda do.
What? lol
If anyone knows about hiatus is Metroid fans. You should check the history of the franchise' releases.
Do you think Federation Force is going to attract many new players to the series?
The only interest the game seems to be garnering right now is from angry fanboys. I will not be surprised if it bombs.
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