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Destiny |OT35| Time to Explain At Last

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lt519

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No signs of the missing three calcified fragments either?

Sure, but in CE there were different completely different loot tables at Crota (and maybe other parts? Don't remember). With King's Fall the NM drops are literally inferior versions of HM drops; outside of maybe OCD collecting there is zero practical reason why you would ever want a normal mode drop over a hard mode drop unless I'm totally spacing on something.

Just the infusion process being 80%. I'd take a 310 sniper and then a 320 sniper over just a 320 sniper. If you started leveling a 290 or 300 sniper with those two you'd get higher infusing it in steps than just infusing the 320 into it.
 

flkraven

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Isn't this the second time Datto came out looking like a complete asshole/jackass during a raid stream? I remember seeing all the same comments during normal mode.
 
Yeah, my interest in Destiny going forward.

*rimshot*

Seriously though, I haven't seen any unique weapons yet. But that could just be RNG. We'll see. I'm sure there has to be something, at least an exotic.

lulz

As somebody who still hasn't finished the raid on regular I'm still enjoying what I'm seeing, but yeah the hard versions of these raids for the most part has been kind of weak.
 

MrDaravon

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I'm a bit disappointed environmental damage and defense doesn't appear to play any significant role in KF HM. I was sure with every character each having an arc, solar and void subclass, and armor with specific resistances to the same, that we would have encounters where speccing a specific subclass and using specific damage resist armor would factor heavily. I think I was shooting too high, which I've done consistently with Destiny.

Also this; I have Lupi chests with every resistance for example because I assumed that was perk for a reason, but I guess not? Also doesn't look like any elemental weapons from HM either. Super disappointing, that was the main reason I ran the other raids.

No signs of the missing three calcified fragments either?

I don't think any of the groups who have already beaten it were looking really.

Just the infusion process being 80%. I'd take a 310 sniper and then a 320 sniper over just a 320 sniper. If you started leveling a 290 or 300 sniper with those two you'd get higher infusing it in steps than just infusing the 320 into it.

Right, but the argument for double HM drops versus one NM and one HM drop is what of instead of a 320 sniper and nothing, or a 310 and a 320 sniper...you got TWO 320 snipers?

I don't feel strongly about it either way, but I do agree based on precedent and for practical purposes now I'd much rather have double HM drops than 1 NM and 1 HM.
 

zewone

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That doesn't mean it makes more sense, you just prefer it.

Getting 2 of the same drop just always looked so stupid. Like a glitch.

So getting 2x 320 gear is worse than getting 1x 320 and 1x 310 of the exact same armor/weapon?

You can still get duplicates with the current method, they'll just have a different light value and color palette.
 

flkraven

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So getting 2x 320 gear is worse than getting 1x 320 and 1x 310 of the exact same armor/weapon?

You can still get duplicates with the current method, they'll just have a different light value and color palette.

no, its not better. It just makes no sense. Why in the hell should someone be entitled to double the drops in hardmode simply because they skipped normal that week? Makes no sense. You get your hardmode drops, and then they just throw the normal drops at you too so you don't have to go back and rerun easy to get marks, etc.
 
is this how fast destiny hard modes always get cleared? Legit question as I wasn't around for those.

Hard to say.

VoG's Hard mode was different, since people were pretty underleveled for it.

CE's Hard was cleared in like 34 minutes or something dumb like that because it isn't that long.
 

MrDaravon

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lol everyone getting pissed at the team. nothing wrong with a little smack talk

Except that it started involving words and terms that would get you insta-banned on GAF. Most high-profile Destiny streamers continue to be children, although that's hardly specific to Destiny or anything.
 

lt519

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Right, but the argument for double HM drops versus one NM and one HM drop is what of instead of a 320 sniper and nothing, or a 310 and a 320 sniper...you got TWO 320 snipers?

I don't feel strongly about it either way, but I do agree based on precedent and for practical purposes now I'd much rather have double HM drops than 1 NM and 1 HM.

Right, I'm not paying close enough attention to what I'm reading.
 

LiK

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Except that it started involving words and terms that would get you insta-banned on GAF. Most high-profile Destiny streamers continue to be children, although that's hardly specific to Destiny or anything.

oh, they were using those words? not gonna lie, sometimes when I join other people's fireteams and hear that shit, I just mute them. grow up..
 

zewone

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no, its not better. It just makes no sense. Why in the hell should someone be entitled to double the drops in hardmode simply because they skipped normal that week? Makes no sense. You get your hardmode drops, and then they just throw the normal drops at you too so you don't have to go back and rerun easy to get marks, etc.

lol, again, this is how it's been for the previous two raids before King's Fall.

I didn't just make this up. It's precedent.
 

lt519

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Three fragments might be for those "Challenges" that were leaked on the bnet page for the raid. Whenever those challenges come out.

What challenge mode?

When King's Fall was first released the b.net page had three things listed under the raid Warpriest Challenge, Golgoroth Challenge, and Daughter's Challenge. They aren't there anymore, but they were listed like modifiers would be listed on a Nightfall.
 
I still haven't played the original King's Fall Raid, so I doubt I'll get to Hard Mode anytime soon. I've said previously, that I won't attempt King's Fall until I get to 300, and I'm fairly close to that.
 

Klyka

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I still haven't played the original King's Fall Raid, so I doubt I'll get to Hard Mode anytime soon. I've said previously, that I won't attempt King's Fall until I get to 300, and I'm fairly close to that.

Why? makes no sense. Can easily be cleared a 285-295
 

Cruxist

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All the streamer drama is hilarious.

Still looking forward to the raid though. Glad to see how the drops work. Might run it on Normal to see if I can boost up my light a bit before I tackle hard mode though.
 

flkraven

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lol, again, this is how it's been for the previous two raids before King's Fall.

I didn't just make this up. It's precedent.

Yes, and in the previous 2 raids there was no difference in light level drops. We used to get guaranteed light off our armor piece, and now we have the mechanic as 300-310 for normal, 310-320 for hard. Completely different ball game. Everything has changed, so why should this be any different? You're livin in the past man!
 

macewank

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Find it remarkable that those guys have spent more time talking about how Gothalion *didn't* get worlds first on HM than they have spent talking about how they *did* get it.

That DeeJ tweet too rotfl...

Serves as a reminder I guess.. We've got a cool Destiny community, but there are some real assholes out there
 

Mupod

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Yeah, hard raids in destiny are easy mode compared to mmo hard mode raids.

A little disappointing but hey whatever I like loot and if I wanted to spend 20-30 hours a week for months on end wiping on mythic raid bosses I wouldn't have quit WoW again.
 
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