Ōkami;183754643 said:Is it? Website only mentions "Scheduled for 2016" if it is indeed coming before March then they're expecting less than a million for the game.
Miitomo, not Monster Hunter.
Not a chance. E3.I definitely think NX will be revealed before the end of the fiscal year. I even think it could be as early as January. They might just be waiting until the end of the holidays like they did with the N3DS.
Are you expecting a notably early year unveil for the NX?
The game is out in March.
Not a chance. E3.
Reason why you think it' ll be so early is probably because hype of the Nintendo Direct comeback. That's my guess XD
Edit: Fiscal year ends March 31. Is this correct?
Well it mostly depends on when do you think the system will release. When do you think it' ll launch?No, I think it's because the system is releasing next year and an E3 reveal would be way too late.
Not to mention the fact that third parties definitely have information now and they'll want to reveal it before it leaks.
Yes, the fiscal years ends in March.
What were the numbers for Blops 2 and Advanced Warfare?
Thank you!02./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.11.22} (¥7.980) - 197.350 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 190.631 / NEW
01./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.11.13} (¥8.424) - 79.586 / NEW
03./00. [PS4] Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.11.13} (¥8.424) - 64.060 / NEW
looks like BO3 is a return to form for the series even if it won't hit its peak sales again.
Yeah, the 5k yen pricedrop alone wouldnt change everything for the better a lot, that is true. I guess maybe we will see another 5k yen pricedrop in 2016, maybe a new form factor as well.I mean, its basically confirmation that price hasn't really been the underlying issue (not that there was much mystery there). The product simply isn't for the market. (And that is why the slow demise of the Vita will be very, very interesting to watch from a "what happens to all this software" perspective that hiska was highlighting earlier.)
Of course as you say, these are kind of irrelevant numbers. Whether its at 18k or at 22k, its not much of a difference. Or whether the WiiU is at 9k or 11k.
I agree. January/Februrary can be slow months though, but we will seeyes, it will, but not this year. Probabily in April / May 2016.
Well it mostly depends on when do you think the system will release. When do you think it' ll launch?
im curious about why do you think E3 will be too late?
Also when i said E3, a better wording would have been "Around E3". Since there's a trend for gaming companies to have separate announcements/shows/conference to unveil their products. So near the middle part of the year it's what i think.
i don't consider there's a need for Nintendo to rush out this one, even if it's due time for their next handheld system. The climate for dedicated gaming devices is too adverse for them right now, so in that sense the product should be an unique concept with enough maturity (anti Wii U basically) or at the least have a battery of key software rounded up for consecutive and timely releases. One, the other or both require time.
There's key software coming to their platforms: Wii U up until march and 3DS beyond that (Japan specially) no need to get attention away from them. So there's no rush since both of their devices are in cruise control now, things won't get better but they won't get much worse either.
Edit: Not to mention there's the DeNA and Mobile stuff from them. What you will get by March is their new service and online aacount system.
In short: think is unlikely for the reasons above (key 3DS/Wii U games, mobile busyness and new account system) that they' ll shove all that plus a new system unveil.
YSO predictions
Week 45, 2015 (Nov 2 - Nov 8)
01. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops III < 145k (average 125k)
02. [3DS] Disney Magic World 2: My Happy Life < 85k (average 75k)
03. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops III < 55k (average 45k)
It's been two weeks since the last proper MHX Comg comparison.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181859165&postcount=204
Come throughNXbro.
Define "reveal".
NX was "revealed" earlier this year.
If you want to see the console itself, I think you are going to have to wait until E3.
NX was revealed when it was mentioned with DQXI, which I'd say was a good foot to start on as it puts the narrative on "games".
The "reveal" during the presser for mobile could easily have been passed as "everyone is always making a new console" but when you announce a *game*, then you've pretty much revealed it. It was said in the old thread on the reveal for DQXI, but I think it was pre-scripted of an "accident" during the presser. (For Japan, anyway, since I know at least anecdotally that the NX has spread by WoM because of DQXI's reveal. The west is obviously a different story.)
Its probably the best reveal for a console Nintendo has ever had! All they needed to do was have SE do it for them.
I mean a reveal in the sense that we know what the actual system is. DQXI being announced isn't actuall that notable, games are announced for nebulous next gen systems quite often. It also actually tells us nothing about the system because it could easily just be the 3DS version, which is probably the only reason they got away with it.
Porting the 3DS version would require porting the engine as its built on proprietary solutions and very much coded specifically for the 3DS, and I have a high doubt the NX will even have two screens/clam-shell. What would you port at that point?
No one is going to port that (its a waste of resources, and the 3DS version isn't the version who's resources will have trouble being recouped).
The UE4 version is made to be port-able, that's the whole point of such an engine. Ease of platform agnosticism and development.
Oregano:
You left the most important part about the launch date. Of course it will be 2016 but when in 2016?
The latest the system could be released in 2016 is between september/november window. The 3DS with the future announced releases could bare the weight/wait XD Correct me if im worng, but i think there are important 3DS games remaining in Japan beyond Nintendo's last quarter. i single out Japan in the handheld case because it's their most active market for that device.
For Wii U in the rest of the world there's Star Fox, FExST and Pokken. That's about right for half a year of Wii U releases and then there's potential DLC for stuff like Splatoon, Mario Maker and Smash.
i do agree it makes sense to single out Zelda in this case because there's the chance for a simultaneous release. Speaking of which: Don't you think Zelda would make a fatastic NX launch game? In which case Zelda release date should clue us about the NX one, so it's highly likely a November launch.
The highlighted would make more sense if:I think it's a November launch but then a summer reveal is super late. Do you think they'll have less than six months between reveal & release? That gives them no time to adjust anything based on public reaction and going from the present it gives leakers about 8 months to divulge every detail.
...and in the case of the 3DS they have to consider their weakest market, not their strongest. If the 3DS is completely dead in the west it makes it much harder to launch its successor regardless of strength in Japan.
EDIT: The Xbox One was revealed in May and they quite obviously had to scramble to readjust. I don't think that's an ideal path to take.
The highlighted would make more sense if:
1) There were actually any competition in the dedicated handheld market. There's none.
2) If the west (mainly developers) cared anything about dedicated handheld devices. Right now they don't care much about it. The public is happy using their smart devices for gaming on the go.
Regarding the public reaction to the device and time for adjustments. i think the MS blunder is affecting your judgement here and in any case it had more to do with a politic than anything related to the console itself. Historically Nintendo is less influenced by public reactions, that's why we have devices that tend to defy market trends from them.
I mean a reveal in the sense that we know what the actual system is. DQXI being announced isn't actuall that notable, games are announced for nebulous next gen systems quite often. It also actually tells us nothing about the system because it could easily just be the 3DS version, which is probably the only reason they got away with it.
If you are talking about just which kind of system it will be, I'm pretty sure we'll know that in the January Investors Meeting yeah. Seeing it physically and with complete details? After the fiscal year meeting imo.
Thanks!Here's the current.
28 days remaining:
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 2467pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter Cross - 1706pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 1531pt
looks like X will open up bigger than 4G but legs won't be as great as capcom expects 2.5m by Q1 2016, which is a bit less than the expectactions for 4G, but it's also possible capcom lowballed X after overestimating 4G sales expectations based on better than expected sales from MH4Here's the current.
28 days remaining:
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 2467pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter Cross - 1706pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 1531pt
I think it's a November launch but then a summer reveal is super late. Do you think they'll have less than six months between reveal & release? That gives them no time to adjust anything based on public reaction and going from the present it gives leakers about 8 months to divulge every detail.
...and in the case of the 3DS they have to consider their weakest market, not their strongest. If the 3DS is completely dead in the west it makes it much harder to launch its successor regardless of strength in Japan.
EDIT: The Xbox One was revealed in May and they quite obviously had to scramble to readjust. I don't think that's an ideal path to take.
Define "reveal".
NX was "revealed" earlier this year.
If you want to see the console itself, I think you are going to have to wait until E3.
there is absolutely no point in rushing or releasing the nx prematurely, the ds and wii u is both in their own world at this point in terms of competition as one has been DOA and the other is going through the natural stage of end-life, releasing them early won't affect the ps4/xb1 as the success of it relies on it's own strength and offerings, rather than strategic timing against other platforms
a successful launch is top priority, look at 3ds and wii u which both suffered severely due to premature or inadequate launches, if nx flops out of the gate then it's gonna be another generation of nintendo consoles being ignored again by third parties on a WW basis
i have always been for a launch asap but not if it compromises a successful launch and with the nx's concept of "shared games" it'd be a bone-headed move not take advantage of that by bolstering the launch period library of games to its full potential
with the delay of miimoto, i assume their overall plans have been delayed slightly to q4 2015 release, when it was likely going to be a bit earlier before
the fact that nintendo managed to get dq11 as a nx title shows that they are focusing on a solid library in its early life and as it should, like i said, a successful launch is top priority, theres nothing worse than droughts for a console that relies so much on first party support only, nintendo simply can't play it like sony and ms does, they have to be much more proactive than that
dq11, pokemon z, yokai watch, monster hunter stories, zelda are all easily early nx titles if nintendo wants it to happen and i dont see why they wouldn't when 3ds is no longer a priority
looks like X will open up bigger than 4G but legs won't be as great as capcom expects 2.5m by Q1 2016, which is a bit less than the expectactions for 4G, but it's also possible capcom lowballed X after overestimating 4G sales expectations based on better than expected sales from MH4
u mean pokemon is usually the last of their main IPs to have a mainline release on their new consoles? if so yes, but theres nothing stopping them from changing thatyea, getting it out in 2016 will be meaningless if the console is garbage. And doesn't have a killer lineup.
Pokemon usually doesn't jump the next handheld immediately though right? I expect the next one to be on the 3DS still.
E3 draws a lot more attention. Only gamers would watch some random Nintendo event.I definately think Ninty wants to have it's own event before E3 to have no competition for media space. Considering how easily they seem to namedrop it I wouldn't be surprised at Q1 reveal.
Splatoon seems pretty high.
Hard to judge Zelda legs from that....
E3 draws a lot more attention. Only gamers would watch some random Nintendo event.
I do think they should host some sort of presentation in Q1, to reveal some small details and tease some stuff, build the hype. But they should save the NX showcase, pricing and release date for E3.
if Z was 3DS bound then it should be out right around now or at the latest this holiday, nintendo did say that theres still unannounced games that will be releasing this q4 but i doubt it'll be pokemonI expect us to know what the NX is, and the shape of Nintendo's future business, by March- they'll be including profit projections for the NX in their FY2016 forecasts, and they'll disclose the specific format of the console(s) and the effect that they expect it to have on their overall business in order to better advise investors.
Pokémon Z will assuredly not be on the NX (I expect it in March or April time, judging by the promotion it's currently going through), but I would be flat astonished if there were any 3DS mainline titles after that. Game Freak stuck with the DS for Gen V as a result of the stunning hardware sales across the world, and Gen IV's better-than-expected software sales- say what you want about the 3DS, but it's pretty clear that's not a factor this time out. I'd expect Gen VII to hit NX Autumn 2017.
hardware reveals at e3 will always have the mindshare over just software reveals and if it's a good unveiling it'll overshadow sony/ms instead, e3 is best time to reveal it as u have the attention of the gamers that are likely early adopters, the ones u want on ur sideI disagree. If Nintendo does an event buildup in the vein of PS4 reveal at a quiet news period it will draw eyes. And I'd imagine gamers are the ones who they want to capture, it's not like non-gamers watch E3 press conferences.
If they go for full E3 blowout they better have a damn good showing to overshadow Sony+MS shows and lineups unless they try to go for another Wii situation with totally different audience or heavy handheld focus.
I disagree. If Nintendo does an event buildup in the vein of PS4 reveal at a quiet news period it will draw eyes. And I'd imagine gamers are the ones who they want to capture, it's not like non-gamers watch E3 press conferences.
If they go for full E3 blowout they better have a damn good showing to overshadow Sony+MS shows and lineups unless they try to go for another Wii situation with totally different audience or heavy handheld focus.
if Z was 3DS bound then it should be out right around now or at the latest this holiday, nintendo did say that theres still unannounced games that will be releasing this q4 but i doubt it'll be pokemon
if it isn't out yet by the end of the year then it's likely for nx instead
Ōkami;183793826 said:[PSV] God Eater: Resurrection - 383pts
GERB2 had 666pt sales on Vita iirc. Puts GER at around 135k not counting cross-play pack.
if their aim is to maximize profits then it should be out by now, as every other third entry has released after 2 years, by delaying it til next year they'll just have less time to sell the game before nx comes along, all for the sake of what? 10th year anniversary?No, I don't agree, I'm afraid. Pokémon's twentieth anniversary comes around in February, and I would be far from surprised if there was a game in quick succession of that date- it's probably too late to get a game ready for that date now, but there's plenty of time between that point and the NX's launch to get a game out. Game Freak has never been quick to the platform transition- even setting aside the DS-3DS transition, it took two years to get the first DS RPG out the door, and it was well over a year before Ruby and Sapphire came to the GBA. I also don't see any reason why they'd give up the easy money of a third version or a sequel to squeeze as much as possible out of that shitty 3DS engine as possible before they move on.
ds was a beast and when dslite came around it was still in shortage, people were glad to even buy one, 3ds isn't in the same situationbomba confirmed
about NX, anyone knows about it here in japan, and probably anyone must not know anything until winter holiday ends
even if a January announcement would make angry all the people who just bought a Nintendo console a couple of weeks before
but that worked with DSLite so it might work again