Oh cmon, this is simply wrong. It's not like you had deep philosophical discussions in prior games and you always had the option of picking the "fuck you, im going to kill you" line.
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Fallout 4 has gone gold; leaked gameplay vids
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Oh cmon, this is simply wrong. It's not like you had deep philosophical discussions in prior games and you always had the option of picking the "fuck you, im going to kill you" line.
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Then by all means play Fallout 4.
But some of us were, in our heart of hearts, secretly, silently, hoping Bethesda learned at least something from what Obsidian did with New Vegas and that they would attach it to F4's proverbial skeleton. And they didn't.
In fact it appears they went in the furthest opposite direction possible.
Seems like combat only at least until the 3 minute mark. Stop at the 3 minute mark.
It could react to the fact that it's on fire. Maybe roll, or run around, lol.
Hero Prinny
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peanutbutterlatte
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Hackneyed .GIF me all you like, I don't have time to read random radio tapes for clues on where to find a hidden Vault. I just don't. I'm sorry if you need some artificial horses to jump, but that doesn't scream "fun" to me.
Knew it was a mistake to even entertain posting in any case. Enjoy your piping hot vitriol that achieves or influences bugger all, I'm going to play Fallout in like a week.
Then fire would serve as not only a DOT but a CC as well, and perhaps that didn't fit into the way they wanted to balance the game.
This is still an RPG. Imagine just about any other RPG out there, MMORPG or what else, fire is a status effect and it doesn't necessarily cause a complex rolling around animation. Attacking the game for posessing certain idiosyncrasies that come with an RPG being an RPG makes it seem like you just want to attack the game.
Is there fire in Witcher 3? Did people freak out?
Because fire like in many RPGs is handled as a status effect -- Like poison or disease or whatever. Did anyone freak out when in Fallout 2 you could become poisoned but your character didn't throw up or convulse on the ground?
Good
This must be payback for all my wrong deeds.
PulseONE
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Some gameplay leaked earlier and there was a part where the dog was on fire, but was just...casually walking around
Basically this:
TimeEffect
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Oh yeah? That's great news!
Wanderer trailer spliced with various gameplay footage is neat
Fans do what Bathesdont
Fans do what Bathesdont
like with mods :3
Jesus_Christ_Almighty
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Off topic, but what are these guys reacting to?
Windom Earle
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Really good to see that the Bethesda target audience for Fallout 4 has made it to this thread.
Hot Fire.
DeepEnigma
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Then you don't have time for a 50-100 hour game. I am confused by this.
This game will hold your attention span for probably 3-6 hours, then you will never touch it again. Even with the "dumbing down" or whatever people are saying it is.
peanutbutterlatte
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You gained bad karma
You gained bad karma
There is no karma in this one too. No time for that I guess.
This hasn't been a secret literally since E3.
That works really well. I dig it.
Skills are tied into perks now. Well except repair. That's gone.
Windom Earle
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Yup, I also just found out about this. Apparently you assign your SPECIALs at the start of the game and the rest is perks. :/
oh
It keeps getting better.
Emperor_Uriel
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Forums need drama, people need things to discuss beyond just "I really want to play this game!"
I remember when, during the week before The Witcher 3's release, people were going crazy over the graphics downgrade. They spent dozens of pages tearing apart every fuzzy LOD texture and counting the quantity of pubic hairs on a monster's taint. There was rage, calls for the cancellation of preorders, vitriolic tweets and emails towards CDPR employees demanding apologies for their lies.
And now everyone is looking at Fallout 4 and going "Lol Bethesda you shittards why can't you make a competent looking game like Witcher?"
I'll say here what I said in those Witcher threads: Morrowind isn't perfect, Skyrim isn't perfect. Red Dead, GTAV, The Last of Us, Bioshock, all imperfect. Every one of last gen's potential GOATS could be picked apart for having some pretty major failings... but they're still all incredible games.
Fallout 4 will do many things that make it GOAT-worthy in the eyes of many avid Fallout fans. It will also do things that prevent some genre veterans from getting into it at all. That's okay. It isn't the last game in the series, so take the good with the bad and hope that, if you end up unsatisfied, Bethesda does things differently next time.
peanutbutterlatte
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The system in FO3 was irritating and pointless anyway. Not saying they couldn't have implemented a more "morally gray" system, but damned if I'm not pleased I won't get bitched at every time I steal a stimpack.
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This is really good and is the first time I heard the entire Wanderer song. I like it.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I want to play this so bad! I can't wait
Rushersauce
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They got rid of Karma, too? Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Better make a new IP, then. If you're going to ditch things that made the game.
Better make a new IP, then. If you're going to ditch things that made the game.
CrimsonEclipse
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I had to rub my eyes to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.I am not that much of a picky person but got damn, watching that hurts my eyes.
I guess I have to be an US citizen to understand this...
no, Fallout games are completely self contained
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Welcome to Bethesda's brave new world of "Role-Playing-Games"
Wherein the game role-plays you.
Kinda like Soviet Russia.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Shouldn't be an issue. There might be some callbacks you miss, but the games are mostly standalone.
Karma in FO3 was bad yes. It had zero bearing on anything you did really. Stealing a dead guys 100 year old instant mash potatoes is bad, but killing the bad guys is good karma.
I'm not 100% sure but I think it's some version of a rap battle, where the two guys take turns laying down sick lyrical disses.
Dick Justice
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Yup, karma was just a crappy extension of Bethesda's insistence on black and white morality. The reputation system in New Vegas was waaaay better.
Got to agree "you've lost karma!" over and over again. Blah. Though admittedly I just always played good. I can see why this would bother people that utilized the karma system.
peanutbutterlatte
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But stealing the bad guys instant mash is also evil karma. You can steal a raider's purified water, give it to a dying man, and you'd still be a little bit evil.
Absolutely no need to bitch about its removal. Again, role playing. You know in your head if something you do is evil.
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QuiteWhittle
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Good, karma sucks. I don't need the game to judge if my actions were good or evil.
Blooddimond
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But all indications are that isn't in FO4 either, so we're basically left without any reptuation/morality system to roleplay with.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Karma made the game? Really?
In my second Fallout 3 playthrough I practiced Extreme Cannibalism.. I wasn't just a cannibal, I wanted to be history's greatest cannibal. I was eating every NPC I came across (other than the immune ones, of course) and as I consumed a town or settlement I'd mark it off on a map I was sharing with my friends.
I hope there's cannibalism in 4.
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