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Just Cause 3 Is 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One

Tryxx

Member
I'm still going to buy it on the Xbox one. I find the PS4 controller incredibly uncomfortable.

Same boat I just cannot get used to the ds4. The Xbox one controller is literally perfect and the ds4 just does not feel great in the hand, of course this is simply my opinion and my experience with my Xbox one and ps4.
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
From an image quality pov, it'd be more interesting to know if they've progressed from FXAA to something like SMAA T2x.
 

Quonny

Member
Why are you in this thread?

Don't care? Don't post.

He's just stating that there are gamers that don't care about something as silly as a minor resolution difference between two consoles, especially when PC could shit all over consoles and should be where you want to play if you care about these resolutions.

I could come back and say "Why are you responding? Don't like what he said? Don't post, you're giving him attention.", but that's silly as well. It's a forum where all reasonable discussion should take place. Not caring about something like the resolution is a stance.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
XB1 is a car that goes 100 miles an hour top speed and PS4 has top speed of 125. How can one ever match the other? The driver of Xbox can learn how to drive it better but so will drivers of PS4. The actual gap cannot be negated because it is a real, physical constraint.

Every game could look/perform better on PS4. If it doesn't the developer either aimed for parity or game is undemanding enough that both handle it equally well.

The gap will be there the entire gen, mostly XB1 version will be inferior in some way (maybe resolution like this, maybe fps stability, etc, etc). Can people please accept this? Mostly it doesn't detract from the games (sometimes it does which is why comparisons are useful for dual console owners) but fundamentally "it is what it is".

Because of the hardware the ceiling of the PS4 is above what the ceiling of Xbox One can ever achieve.
If we're strictly talking about resolution, which is the topic of this thread, it is not unreasonable to hope for/expect more resolution parity in the future as more games manage to hit 1080p on Xbox. Yes, the PS4 will continue to see optimization as well, but it's not like they're going to go beyond the ceiling of native res.
To use the car analogy, perhaps the speed limit in this instance is 100 and the PS4 met the goal with ease, while the other car needs to be pushed a bit more.
I realize that there is more to IQ than resolution, but that's beside the point ITT.
 

vixlar

Member
Who cares? As long as the game is fun...

I would agree with you, I play Just Cause 2 till this day in single player, and is fun as hell.

But, the Multiplayer in PC version looks amazing, and given that they took many fan mods and implemented in Just Cause 2, and how they praised the multiplayer mod, it is a shame it is not included in Just Cause 3.
 
Hopefully it's 60 fps on both consoles. Gonna be shitty to play this at 30 fps after watching all the pre-release videos in glorious 60.
 
If we're strictly talking about resolution, which is the topic of this thread, it is not unreasonable to hope for/expect more resolution parity in the future as more games manage to hit 1080p on Xbox. Yes, the PS4 will continue to see optimization as well, but it's not like they're going to go beyond the ceiling of native res.
To use the car analogy, perhaps the speed limit in this instance is 100 and the PS4 met the goal with ease, while the other box needs to be pushed a bit more.
I realize that there is more to IQ than resolution, but that's beside the point ITT.

Not really besides the point you are trying to argue though. If devs want to reach identical resolutions on both consoles there are only two scenarios:

- Parity (gimp the PS4 version)
- Other effects/tech pared back on XB1.

It has nothing to do with your little car analogy, the XB1 won't magically reach resolution parity just by stretching its legs more.

I tend to think people who post Who cares? Are likely the people who really care.

exactly

If this announcement came a few weeks ago, this thread would've been a WHOLE lot larger.

More persecution complex, haha.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Not really besides the point you are trying to argue though. If devs want to reach identical resolutions on both consoles there are only two scenarios:

- Parity (gimp the PS4 version)
- Other effects/tech pared back on XB1.

It has nothing to do with your little car analogy, the XB1 won't magically reach resolution parity just by stretching its legs more.
I'm not saying that resolution parity won't lead to other shortcomings on Xbox. I'm saying that this is a thread about the resolution and it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we'll see more resolution parity in the future when there are more 1080p games on both consoles. Of course the power gap will always be there, it will just manifest itself in ways besides resolution as we move forward.
 

foxbeldin

Member
He's just stating that there are gamers that don't care about something as silly as a minor resolution difference between two consoles, especially when PC could shit all over consoles and should be where you want to play if you care about these resolutions.

I could come back and say "Why are you responding? Don't like what he said? Don't post, you're giving him attention.", but that's silly as well. It's a forum where all reasonable discussion should take place. Not caring about something like the resolution is a stance.

It's a thread about resolution, and his comment is irrelevant to that. If he doesn't like resolution threads, he's free to ignore them instead of posting "who cares?" and dismissing the whole thread doing that.
 

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Champloo4

Member
As an owner of both consoles, I am still getting this on Xbox One.
I just prefer the XB1 controller.

I bought Witcher 3 on PS4, and afterwards compared it to XB1, and I couldn't tell a difference. I do not have robot eyes, turns out the 'p's' aren't a big deal for me.
 

Well, I know that one but fail to see the connection to Oemenia's post. Maybe I'm just stupid today, carry on. :)

If we're strictly talking about resolution, which is the topic of this thread, it is not unreasonable to hope for/expect more resolution parity in the future as more games manage to hit 1080p on Xbox. Yes, the PS4 will continue to see optimization as well, but it's not like they're going to go beyond the ceiling of native res.
To use the car analogy, perhaps the speed limit in this instance is 100 and the PS4 met the goal with ease, while the other car needs to be pushed a bit more.
I realize that there is more to IQ than resolution, but that's beside the point ITT.

Decreasing resolution seems to be the dev favorite at the moment, so I don't really predict this trend to change. There are some exceptions to the rule though.
 

etta

my hard graphic balls
Do you even know what gimped means?
If you've got a task at work to do and a budget of two hours, but you finish the task in 1.5 so you go start another task, does that mean you gimped the first task?
 
I tend to think people who post Who cares? Are likely the people who really care.

I didn't mean any harm by my post. Personally, I don't really think resolution is as important as some people think it is. As long as the game is fun in terms of gameplay. If Fallout 4 looked like it was barely an upgrade from Fallout 3 in terms of resolution, you would still have a shit ton of people hyped and playing because of everything else the games brings with it.
 

Curufinwe

Member
Anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
 

Mahonay

Banned
I think that would be a problem if they were aiming for 60fps but 30fps is a low target so it better be locked.
Locked 30fps seems to be the reasonable route to take for this game on these consoles. Unless they pull off some kind of miracle.
 

thelastword

Banned
It will be fun on every system

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This thread is not about how fun the game is, it's about the resolution differences. I have more fun with a game when the resolution and framerate is better over the other, so this thread is quite informative to me based on the objective data.

I don't think it should come as a shock when a game is 1080 on PS4 and 900 on X1, it's just a nice surprise when they hit 1080 on both.
A nice surprise that the XB1 hits 1080p, that's fine. That surprise is all fair and good as long as the PS4's framerate is much better or graphical effects much better on the PS4. So much better foliage on GTA5, almost double the framerate in Tomb Raider DE.

On the flip, when a game is 900p on both platforms and performs the same or even worse on the PS4, you call that rat out, it's a lose/lose for PS4 owners and it's so outside the rule of norm that it becomes glaring. Even at 1080p, every PS4 game should outperform the XB1 equivalent at 900p.

He's just stating that there are gamers that don't care about something as silly as a minor resolution difference between two consoles, especially when PC could shit all over consoles and should be where you want to play if you care about these resolutions.

I could come back and say "Why are you responding? Don't like what he said? Don't post, you're giving him attention.", but that's silly as well. It's a forum where all reasonable discussion should take place. Not caring about something like the resolution is a stance.
This is a resolution thread, that's like coming into a fruits thread and speaking of vegetables. This is not a thread about how fun this game is (how does anyone know the game will be fun if they have not played, suppose there's some controller glitch that deems the game unplayable at release?)........Talking about fun and controller preferences means nothing in a thread like this, it's a just an argument to affirm where you prefer to play, which this thread is not about.
 

EGM1966

Member
If we're strictly talking about resolution, which is the topic of this thread, it is not unreasonable to hope for/expect more resolution parity in the future as more games manage to hit 1080p on Xbox. Yes, the PS4 will continue to see optimization as well, but it's not like they're going to go beyond the ceiling of native res.
To use the car analogy, perhaps the speed limit in this instance is 100 and the PS4 met the goal with ease, while the other car needs to be pushed a bit more.
I realize that there is more to IQ than resolution, but that's beside the point ITT.
I'm not really convinced TBH. Resolution i believe is one thing f the easiest ways for developers to scale to the different specifications. If a game is 1080p on XB1 then unless it has better fps, shadows or whatever it's about parity. A game that's well optimised for PS4 at 1080p/30fps that's full of effects (and let's face it eye candy is popular this gen) isn't going to be 1080p unless assets take a notable hit. Far easier to jump drop the resolution.

It's no accident so many big titles have this 1080p/900p split as it aligns well to the specification difference.

Ultimately the better way to understand the analogy is the big games mostly need to go 125 miles an hour in the first place therefore they need scaled back for Xbox in some form.
 
Do you even know what gimped means?
If you've got a task at work to do and a budget of two hours, but you finish the task in 1.5 so you go start another task, does that mean you gimped the first task?

Ah, we're back to "goals". Really? Your analogy doesn't work (a task can be done in a certain time but also in a certain quality. And different clients will have different quality expectations) but nice try. Save your ammunition for the Fallout 4 DF thread, will ya? That game will most likely have parity.
 

etta

my hard graphic balls
Okay, so because you did the task in 1.5 hours that means it was done sloppily? Lol.
How's this, assume it was done as it should have been done, what then? Is it still gimped?
"Gimping" is the opposite equivalent to "lazy devs" it seems.
 
I expected 1080p/900p 30fps (not locked) on consoles. PC will probably be 1080p/60fps with much less framerate drops as Just Cause 2 had really good scaling on higher hardware.
 

Navid

Member
Who cares? As long as the game is fun...
Anyone who is choosing between which platform to get the title on probably care...
Will it affect your enjoyment of Uncharted 4 MP?

Because who cares right?
Terrible comparison, there is no other version of Uncharted 4 which has the MP in that game running at 1080p... if there was, a lot of people would care.
Hey look! The same discussion we've had a hundred times already! I don't get why this is post worthy news anymore.
Because this is the first time we have had this discussion about this game...
 

MaulerX

Member
This is a resolution thread, that's like coming into a fruits thread and speaking of vegetables. This is not a thread about how fun this game is (how does anyone know the game will be fun if they have not played, suppose there's some controller glitch that deems the game unplayable at release?)........Talking about fun and controller preferences means nothing in a thread like this, it's a just an argument to affirm where you prefer to play, which this thread is not about.


So if you have a peach tree on your property that produces peaches with a shade more fuzz than the peach tree on mines, I'm supposed to not enjoy mines?
 

Head.spawn

Junior Member
I think it's absolutely possible assuming Avalanche have downgraded the visuals enough.

I don't think the visuals would be the issue, it's these CPUs in these consoles versus the insane amount of physics destruction possible in this game. I just wouldn't expect it to be "locked", I'm not saying it'll be bad and not good performance or whatever, but unwavering seems farfetched IMO. I don't think they could possibly account for all the wacky shit you might be able to pull off.

I'm wrong all of the time though, so I wouldn't bet any money on it. :)
 
Okay, so because you did the task in 1.5 hours that means it was done sloppily? Lol.
How's this, assume it was done as it should have been done, what then? Is it still gimped?
"Gimping" is the opposite equivalent to "lazy devs" it seems.

Yes, because the result speaks for itself. We went over this many times in the Max Payne thread, so I don't feel like explaining it to you again. And it's OT in this thread anyway.
 
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