What would you say if I reason that you're just trying to save the life of Burb, perhaps a fellow scum mate? (I don't believe this, but how do you defend yourself, seems oftly convenient to save Burb.)
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Harry Potter [Mafia] |OT| Yer a werewolf, Arry
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What would you say if I reason that you're just trying to save the life of Burb, perhaps a fellow scum mate? (I don't believe this, but how do you defend yourself, seems oftly convenient to save Burb.)
Hyperactivity
Banned
Tanner vibes?
GUYS WE DON'T HAVE TANNERS. IF WE DO, SALVA AND NIN DESIGNED A TERRIBLE GAME.
Tanners, also known as jesters, are soft-banned in this community, hell, in most online mafia. This comes up every game and so far every single mod, whether they be insane or not, has not put a jester in their game. They are the stupidest role and I'm not going to waste any brainpower into guessing whether someone is a tanner or not.
Hyperactivity
Banned
He wasn't so bad in election, but the poor dude got stereotyped into being lynched.
Think I know what you're role claiming
This^ Very much so to those who think that Burb is trying to get lynched on purpose.
It would be weird for a scum to bus himself that hard, more likely would be if I was scum, for them to bus me. But I'm not the one to really comment on this, am I?
I was just thinking of the possibility, as NinPot have put the game on 8/10, which means already lot of unconventionality and possible chaos.
Okay but seriously, now out to to write those reads. Returning later.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I came to this decision before the game even started. It's why I've been so quiet until now.
For what it's worth, I do think Burb is telling the truth, and if my death saves him for another day, I won't complain.
I'm not sure who I would want to vote if not a No Lynch, but after Rats Off To Ya's claim, it is definitely something to consider. As well, I've been led to believe by posts that Blarg is someone to also consider, as he might not be helpful during the beginning of the game, and in turn, cause confusion during the end. There is also the issue of you as we are clearly not seeing eye to eye right now, and maybe won't during the end of the game.
Hyperactivity
Banned
iirc 8/10 is still lower or equal to Cthulhu and Dangaropa
That's a very dangerous way to think, just because someone doesn't have the same view of you doesn't mean they are not on your side. No lynch is the worst option you could possibly take, vote for anyone, vote for someone who has no votes, just don't vote no lynch.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Bonus incentive to lynch me: there is information contained in my role text that will answer a couple of questions I've seen posed in this thread. It's nothing groundbreaking, but it's something.
Come on guys. Let's get this ball rolling. If you've played with me, you know that when I'm Town, I'm Town as fuck. This is a good choice.
Come on guys. Let's get this ball rolling. If you've played with me, you know that when I'm Town, I'm Town as fuck. This is a good choice.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Rynam stopped voting no lynch, so I'm going to
unvote
I'm going to vote for someone else shortly once I compile my thoughts
unvote
I'm going to vote for someone else shortly once I compile my thoughts
Hyperactivity
Banned
Keep it that way. The easiest way to win as scum is to eliminate all but a few of the loud voices and the people that would follow a "town leader" and let them dominate the conversation for the rest of the game
Now if anyone was to try and sound like a tanner, it would be this fellow. (Not that there is one, I imagine) You are gift wrapping yourself just perfectly for the town, but it's almost as if you are giving up the game.
So why not just tell us? I would be glad to vote for you if you did.
OMG I TOTES GOT IT
Blargy-boy is the Giant Squid who lives in the Great Lake! How he made it into the Great Hall I have no idea...and how has nobody noticed that there's a squid taking up the entire Ravenclaw table?
Yeah, I think we could all happily lynch you if you enlightened us, otherwise Burb is a dead man walking.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Ugh Rats. Pretty sure I believe in you being town
-You're drawing weird attention to yourself if you're scum
-I don't believe in jesters
One of three things is happening right now:
1) You're telling the truth
2) You have some sort of protector role ala Palmer in Star Wars, and Burbeting is who you must protect. This would likely lead to Burbeting getting lynched tomorrow though. A better way to have accomplished would be to have vote no lynch, let yourself get lynched tomorrow at worst, and leave Burb to his own mercy
3) You're trying something, and I'll leave it at that
-You're drawing weird attention to yourself if you're scum
-I don't believe in jesters
One of three things is happening right now:
1) You're telling the truth
2) You have some sort of protector role ala Palmer in Star Wars, and Burbeting is who you must protect. This would likely lead to Burbeting getting lynched tomorrow though. A better way to have accomplished would be to have vote no lynch, let yourself get lynched tomorrow at worst, and leave Burb to his own mercy
3) You're trying something, and I'll leave it at that
Some chosen reads:
Flame_AC: My hot potato Flame, the one I want to talk about first. I think its pretty interesting that he is the one who keeps pushing me the most, while saying that I will become the big topic later on if left alive, it seems self-fulfilling, since he is the biggest pusher on this at the moment. That said, its true that he really is trying to push for my death in D1, while scums might want to keep that at least for D2 or later. And yeah, I am regrettably the big discussion topic for D1, so I cant blame too much. Something just rubs about him the wrong way for me, but I cant really say what, for sure. But not entirely convinced he is a scum, but he certainly is not playing the best town-play here, either.
(Its also kinda annoying how he keeps talking how Burb is as good as dead, that kinda pisses me off, even though thats just a personal opinion this time
. The game has a social aspect to it too, yknow.)
Blargonaut: Ah, my favorite player, whom I always have a love/hate relationship for sure (just look at the Vigilante game, where we targeted each other!). The Blarg Problem (trademarked) is always the fact that he seems to be always a bit problematic poster, not giving out his thoughts in most coherent manner, at least in the beginning of the game. Thats what makes him fun, but also what makes him a problem. It makes taking reads about him really hard, something that Scums would want, he really is a player whose alignment is hard to guess. Tl;Dr: Problematic
Roytheone: He plays just like the usual roy, he makes some comments about stuff, talks quite rationally, and is generally in my side, yay. Problem though, his scum and town plays are so, so similar. Just for that, I will say that he should be watched, although for now I will say I feel somewhat good about him.
Ratsy: Otherwise has been silent, other than his claim. Dont understand why he wont reveal it all? It would give people more incentive to believe him, otherwise it sounds kinda strange. I dont think he is a scum, why would scum try to bus himself this hard? Even in the hypothetical scenario where I am scum, it still would not make any sense. So I say I will believe that he wants to do best for town, but why the secrecy?
Here is a list about people who have talked, but are always kinda vague/neutral, keep blending. Blending is a really dangeroud thing for town, for example in my list about blenders in NX all of the scum were on that list. So yeah, keep an eye definitely on the blenders:
Zipperpinhead
TheGoddamn
Matt Attack
Gorlak (seriously, this guy turned instatly into pile of grey nothing when game started, before that he was all enhusiasm? Scum enthusiasm? Definitely keep an eye on this guy)
MagnumBoy
Kalor
(NOTE: Since game is still early-ish, and posts wise there is not that much, there is more blenders in this time.)
Here is another list, these players should definitely talk more, period. Not adding the banned players, otherwise TWE would be here.
Rynam
Enker (Note: I was almost going to put Enker into the blender list, but then decided against it)
TheGoddamn
The AwesomePossum
All the players not noted on lists or reads: Dont have really anything to say about, you should all post more, maybe.
Flame_AC: My hot potato Flame, the one I want to talk about first. I think its pretty interesting that he is the one who keeps pushing me the most, while saying that I will become the big topic later on if left alive, it seems self-fulfilling, since he is the biggest pusher on this at the moment. That said, its true that he really is trying to push for my death in D1, while scums might want to keep that at least for D2 or later. And yeah, I am regrettably the big discussion topic for D1, so I cant blame too much. Something just rubs about him the wrong way for me, but I cant really say what, for sure. But not entirely convinced he is a scum, but he certainly is not playing the best town-play here, either.
(Its also kinda annoying how he keeps talking how Burb is as good as dead, that kinda pisses me off, even though thats just a personal opinion this time
. The game has a social aspect to it too, yknow.)Blargonaut: Ah, my favorite player, whom I always have a love/hate relationship for sure (just look at the Vigilante game, where we targeted each other!). The Blarg Problem (trademarked) is always the fact that he seems to be always a bit problematic poster, not giving out his thoughts in most coherent manner, at least in the beginning of the game. Thats what makes him fun, but also what makes him a problem. It makes taking reads about him really hard, something that Scums would want, he really is a player whose alignment is hard to guess. Tl;Dr: Problematic
Roytheone: He plays just like the usual roy, he makes some comments about stuff, talks quite rationally, and is generally in my side, yay. Problem though, his scum and town plays are so, so similar. Just for that, I will say that he should be watched, although for now I will say I feel somewhat good about him.
Ratsy: Otherwise has been silent, other than his claim. Dont understand why he wont reveal it all? It would give people more incentive to believe him, otherwise it sounds kinda strange. I dont think he is a scum, why would scum try to bus himself this hard? Even in the hypothetical scenario where I am scum, it still would not make any sense. So I say I will believe that he wants to do best for town, but why the secrecy?
Here is a list about people who have talked, but are always kinda vague/neutral, keep blending. Blending is a really dangeroud thing for town, for example in my list about blenders in NX all of the scum were on that list. So yeah, keep an eye definitely on the blenders:
Zipperpinhead
TheGoddamn
Matt Attack
Gorlak (seriously, this guy turned instatly into pile of grey nothing when game started, before that he was all enhusiasm? Scum enthusiasm? Definitely keep an eye on this guy)
MagnumBoy
Kalor
(NOTE: Since game is still early-ish, and posts wise there is not that much, there is more blenders in this time.)
Here is another list, these players should definitely talk more, period. Not adding the banned players, otherwise TWE would be here.
Rynam
Enker (Note: I was almost going to put Enker into the blender list, but then decided against it)
TheGoddamn
The AwesomePossum
All the players not noted on lists or reads: Dont have really anything to say about, you should all post more, maybe.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I'm playing to win. I don't have to be alive to win, and I believe my death increases my chances of winning.
As I said, the information about my role could be used against me (and by extension, Town). Just know that I am a liability as long as I'm alive.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Some chosen reads:
Flame_AC: My hot potato Flame, the one I want to talk about first. I think its pretty interesting that he is the one who keeps pushing me the most, while saying that I will become the big topic later on if left alive, it seems self-fulfilling, since he is the biggest pusher on this at the moment. That said, its true that he really is trying to push for my death in D1, while scums might want to keep that at least for D2 or later. And yeah, I am regrettably the big discussion topic for D1, so I cant blame too much. Something just rubs about him the wrong way for me, but I cant really say what, for sure. But not entirely convinced he is a scum, but he certainly is not playing the best town-play here, either.
(Its also kinda annoying how he keeps talking how Burb is as good as dead, that kinda pisses me off, even though thats just a personal opinion this time
Blargonaut: Ah, my favorite player, whom I always have a love/hate relationship for sure (just look at the Vigilante game, where we targeted each other!). The Blarg Problem (trademarked) is always the fact that he seems to be always a bit problematic poster, not giving out his thoughts in most coherent manner, at least in the beginning of the game. Thats what makes him fun, but also what makes him a problem. It makes taking reads about him really hard, something that Scums would want, he really is a player whose alignment is hard to guess. Tl;Dr: Problematic
Roytheone: He plays just like the usual roy, he makes some comments about stuff, talks quite rationally, and is generally in my side, yay. Problem though, his scum and town plays are so, so similar. Just for that, I will say that he should be watched, although for now I will say I feel somewhat good about him.
Ratsy: Otherwise has been silent, other than his claim. Dont understand why he wont reveal it all? It would give people more incentive to believe him, otherwise it sounds kinda strange. I dont think he is a scum, why would scum try to bus himself this hard? Even in the hypothetical scenario where I am scum, it still would not make any sense. So I say I will believe that he wants to do best for town, but why the secrecy?
Here is a list about people who have talked, but are always kinda vague/neutral, keep blending. Blending is a really dangeroud thing for town, for example in my list about blenders in NX all of the scum were on that list. So yeah, keep an eye definitely on the blenders:
Zipperpinhead
TheGoddamn
Matt Attack
Gorlak (seriously, this guy turned instatly into pile of grey nothing when game started, before that he was all enhusiasm? Scum enthusiasm? Definitely keep an eye on this guy)
MagnumBoy
Kalor
(NOTE: Since game is still early-ish, and posts wise there is not that much, there is more blenders in this time.)
Here is another list, these players should definitely talk more, period. Not adding the banned players, otherwise TWE would be here.
Rynam
Enker (Note: I was almost going to put Enker into the blender list, but then decided against it)
TheGoddamn
The AwesomePossum
All the players not noted on lists or reads: Dont have really anything to say about, you should all post more, maybe.
You keeping me off this list for some reason or the other?
Get off of me, I'm not letting anyone get into my good books without good reason.
Have a feeling you're trying to attach yourself to me so that people associate us together.
Or you just forgot, although I'm not sure how you would forget. I do personally know how it feels to make really stupid mistakes (hello me in MGS forgetting everything)
Some chosen reads:
Flame_AC: My hot potato Flame, the one I want to talk about first. I think its pretty interesting that he is the one who keeps pushing me the most, while saying that I will become the big topic later on if left alive, it seems self-fulfilling, since he is the biggest pusher on this at the moment. That said, its true that he really is trying to push for my death in D1, while scums might want to keep that at least for D2 or later. And yeah, I am regrettably the big discussion topic for D1, so I cant blame too much. Something just rubs about him the wrong way for me, but I cant really say what, for sure. But not entirely convinced he is a scum, but he certainly is not playing the best town-play here, either.
(Its also kinda annoying how he keeps talking how Burb is as good as dead, that kinda pisses me off, even though thats just a personal opinion this time
Hey, don't worry. I still <3 you. I think you're a great player who is in an unfortunate situation. I'd love to keep you in the game, but I think that it will just be more and more suspicious the longer you survive as an outed Townie. This has to cause discussion and I'd rather save our better days than having to lynch you instead of a Death Eater.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Yes. Any number of things could happen between my claiming, and the end of the day.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Think I know what you're doing here buddy and I guess I'll try to help you out
VOTE: Rats Off To Ya
Can you reveal more info if you look to be heading for a lynch?
If that's the case VOTE: Rats off to Ya. Sorry for being a little quiet the past 24 hours, will post more complete thoughts in a bit. Still anti lynch for Burbet for today.
But if you want us to lynch you, then the information about your role will be revealed and could hurt the town. I don't get why you won't reveal it if you are so set on dying.
If what you are saying is true though, your reveal would cause anyone who doesn't vote you to be seen as anti-town.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
The information is no longer dangerous when I'm dead.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I'll play along here.
Scum can often use roles like switchers or roleblockers to manipulate town prs, and his role might be something that randomly kills or roleblocks.
Excellent tool right there for scum use
Zippedpinhead
Member
Burbeting:
I can understand your blending read on me, I have had a busy couple of days and outside of today's vote and then unvote on Rynam I haven't added much. Mainly my thoughts were how to get us information without having to sacrifice a big poster.
Most day 1 lynches in the games I have played were people who games to hard and then lied.
I am inclined to vote for whoever is trying to get us to no vote today.
So I'm now voting for
vote:retroid
I just read through your first impressions compilation... Interesting. One note: your lynch now group are also a lot of experienced Mafia players, so take that however you want.
I can understand your blending read on me, I have had a busy couple of days and outside of today's vote and then unvote on Rynam I haven't added much. Mainly my thoughts were how to get us information without having to sacrifice a big poster.
Most day 1 lynches in the games I have played were people who games to hard and then lied.
I am inclined to vote for whoever is trying to get us to no vote today.
So I'm now voting for
vote:retroid
I just read through your first impressions compilation... Interesting. One note: your lynch now group are also a lot of experienced Mafia players, so take that however you want.
Only thing that makes sense is that he doesn't want to reveal until he is confident that he will indeed be lynched. In his mind worst case scenario would be revealing info that scum could use against village N1 and not being lynched I'm guessing.
Some people may have less than absolute faith in towns ability to do what should be obviously in their best interest.
Fix it by posting another post?
If there is no Tanner here, most likely, then I don't know any other scenario than that Rats is telling the truth. Scum has no good reason to do this, really.
VOTE: Rats Off To Ya
note: For now this is a temporary vote, I still would really like to hear what your role really is, so far your reasoning why not to has sounded halfbaked.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Bingo.
Hyperactivity
Banned
http://rfnx.ddns.net/mafia/index.html
Takes a little time to recount though, but this is the tool mods are using
MagnumBoy20xx
Neo Member
Just caught up. Really interesting developments going on here with rats.
I am willing to vote for him if that's what we decide is best. If not, then I might have to vote for burb even though I don't think it's the best option.
Hopefully more info will come before the day is up.
I am willing to vote for him if that's what we decide is best. If not, then I might have to vote for burb even though I don't think it's the best option.
Hopefully more info will come before the day is up.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Oh yeah the tool recounts every new page
I think, I have a vague idea what Rats role could be that's pro-town but dangerous for the town itself. I hope I'm correct with it, so for now I'll vote for him too.
At least it's better than no voting or voting the Miller. And I hope others are right and there is no 'Jester' role in this game.
vote: Rats Off To Ya
At least it's better than no voting or voting the Miller. And I hope others are right and there is no 'Jester' role in this game.
vote: Rats Off To Ya
Okay, I have to make a note here for everyone, this is something that has been bugging me.
Do not vote by what the concensus thinks, vote how YOU think (at least for starters).
Saying stuff like "I will vote player X, if everyone does even though I kinda don't want to" is just a sign that said player does not want to take responsibility from their vote.
Now, sometimes players do need to take a side on things, but even then said player needs to take responsibility from their voting. At least Flame is really set on voting me, he is not saying "oh I'll vote you even though I don't think that's a good idea."
People, take responsibility at your votes when you do. Otherwise you get scumpoints from me, at least.
UNVOTE: Rats Off To Ya
Sounds like you aren't going to tell us your role beforehand, but I intend to keep my promise that I will vote for you if you change your mind. I urge everyone who trusts me right now not to vote for Rats Off To Ya as I think that it is not the right choice, although I can't explain why.
Sounds like you aren't going to tell us your role beforehand, but I intend to keep my promise that I will vote for you if you change your mind. I urge everyone who trusts me right now not to vote for Rats Off To Ya as I think that it is not the right choice, although I can't explain why.