I'm sure it will be even faster.
My point was that just maybe a competent DX11 implementation is not as much a scourge on parallel performance as people were claiming back in the Mantle days.
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Star Wars Battlefront: PC Performance Thread
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My point was that just maybe a competent DX11 implementation is not as much a scourge on parallel performance as people were claiming back in the Mantle days.
A 270 is essentially a 7870. It's the same configuration with slower clocks and faster memory that more or less even out. So look at the 7870 results:
http://i.imgur.com/LkQlUxB.jpg
That's at Ultra, so to achieve 60 you would need to reduce the settings.
ISee
Member
I just realized there is even no more mantle support. That API died quickly, was hopping for some future Battlefront DX12 vs Mantle benchmarks.
Sector Clear
Member
Hi there,
Excellent thread, just what I was looking for!
Does anyone have any experiences or thoughts on how the game will run on the following:-
GByte GA-Z77-D3H Z77 MoBo
Intel Core i5 3570K - Overclocked to 4.6Ghz
16GB CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 XMP
2GB EVGA GTX 670 PCI-E - Core clock 1228 / Mem clock 1652
Been looking at pulling the trigger on a 980 Ti for weeks since the BETA but I am struggling to come to terms with spending £530 on a graphics card...
Many thanks.
Excellent thread, just what I was looking for!
Does anyone have any experiences or thoughts on how the game will run on the following:-
GByte GA-Z77-D3H Z77 MoBo
Intel Core i5 3570K - Overclocked to 4.6Ghz
16GB CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 XMP
2GB EVGA GTX 670 PCI-E - Core clock 1228 / Mem clock 1652
Been looking at pulling the trigger on a 980 Ti for weeks since the BETA but I am struggling to come to terms with spending £530 on a graphics card...
Many thanks.
Is this maxed out? Guess my 280X has a future after all (assuming my 4670K and 8GB aren't bottlenecks for my 280X, hell probably the other way around)
Seems like a solid high to me.
Game runs great on a gtx 970 and that'd be a much cheaper upgrade for you. Significant step up from your gtx 670. I'm sure you know this already though.
ISee
Member
That's a beefy overclocked i5 there. How are your temps and how is your voltage?
PCGH.de just released a couple of new Benchmarks, lucky for you they manged to test a 670 this time around. Keep in mind they're benchmarking the endor speeder bike mission (probably the map with the most demanding action at the moment) on ultra settings with TAA.
I did some testing for you on the Endor map.
Switching from TAA to FXAA and switching from Ultra to the high preset improves my performance by ~27%.
42fps + 27%= ~53fps.
So my guess is a locked 60 down to 53 during a very,very demanding scene. and locked 60 on mixed high/medium settings.
Max settings yes. No idea about FOV though.
Sector Clear
Member
Many thanks for the reply, much appreciated
Temps are well within acceptable boundaries and as for voltages, I am running at a VID of 1.2260 volts.
I am cooling the CPU with a Corsair H80i and it does a cracking job of it and it runs really stable even under high load.
Sector Clear
Member
With my "lowly" Nvidia 670 I am running everything Ultra with FXAA enabled at 1080p and the least FPS I have seen so far is 55...
Thought I'd add my performance for anyone looking for 780 results:
i5 2500K overclocked to 4.5 GHz
16GB DDR3 ram
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC (with modest overclock)
1920x1080 resolution with no scaling and all settings on ultra (no anti-aliasing)
Getting a solid 60fps so far. This game performs SO well. Endor is one of the most impressive things I've seen visually in gaming. Good job, Dice!
It really is incredible to have performance like this right out the gate.
i5 2500K overclocked to 4.5 GHz
16GB DDR3 ram
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC (with modest overclock)
1920x1080 resolution with no scaling and all settings on ultra (no anti-aliasing)
Getting a solid 60fps so far. This game performs SO well. Endor is one of the most impressive things I've seen visually in gaming. Good job, Dice!
It really is incredible to have performance like this right out the gate.
CaptainSmirnov
Member
If anyone experiences stutter while getting 60 fps on the counter, just reinstall drivers with DDU and it does the trick. 3440×1440+130% smooth as butter now.
Zomba13
Member
Playing on a GTX780 3GB with 16GB RAM and an i5 4670k@3.4GHz with everything set to the ultra preset and I don't think I've gone below 60fps yet. I hit around 70ish on Endor once.
Game look fantastic and runs like silky smooth butter.
Only issues I have is that sometimes on the menu/between matches it hitches a bit with the sound but I think it's because of connecting to the Origin stuff or something as once it shows my icon in the top left or fully loads the music/sounds play fine.
Completely blown away by how well it runs while looking as good as it does AND having all those fancy blaster and explosion effects going off.
Game look fantastic and runs like silky smooth butter.
Only issues I have is that sometimes on the menu/between matches it hitches a bit with the sound but I think it's because of connecting to the Origin stuff or something as once it shows my icon in the top left or fully loads the music/sounds play fine.
Completely blown away by how well it runs while looking as good as it does AND having all those fancy blaster and explosion effects going off.
Wow, this looks fantastic. Is there any way SweetFX could conflict with online play though? I know I've read before that you can be banned from playing certain games with SweetFX.
Origin has refunds
Game runs baller on my GTX 970... But a question:
I have TAA on and it looks great while standing still; but when moving it looks like the AA gets turned off and gets turned on when the image is more still again. Looks really bad. Any ideas?
Edit: Aaaand now I see everyone is talking about it. Yikes! Sorry.
I have TAA on and it looks great while standing still; but when moving it looks like the AA gets turned off and gets turned on when the image is more still again. Looks really bad. Any ideas?
Edit: Aaaand now I see everyone is talking about it. Yikes! Sorry.
ISee
Member
My RAM upgrade did help with the >1440p resolution problem. I am not hitting 60fps though so I might scale back anyway a bit
Glad to hear
Game is visually stunning and very well optimized. People get good results even on less powerful machines, from a technical standpoint there isn't much to talk about... just look at some quotes (first page, box art). A small (slow) performance thread for a huge AAA PC release is generally a good sign.
double0cinco
Banned
I have:
HD 7950 @ 1125 core clock
i5-3570k @ 4.3 GHz
8GB 1600 ddr3
Installed on MX-100 SSD
Sooo performance is generally great. On endor walker assault with everything on ultra sans shadows (on high) I'm getting above 60 fps, pretty much never dips below that; very smooth frame times.
BUT, at the beginning of some matches (I'd say maybe half or a little more) I get very high and hitchy frame times, corresponding with 100% usage on all counts cores. Then after maybe a minute or less, usage goes back down below 80% ish, and performance proceeds to be great the rest of the match
Has this happened to anyone else? Any ideas?
HD 7950 @ 1125 core clock
i5-3570k @ 4.3 GHz
8GB 1600 ddr3
Installed on MX-100 SSD
Sooo performance is generally great. On endor walker assault with everything on ultra sans shadows (on high) I'm getting above 60 fps, pretty much never dips below that; very smooth frame times.
BUT, at the beginning of some matches (I'd say maybe half or a little more) I get very high and hitchy frame times, corresponding with 100% usage on all counts cores. Then after maybe a minute or less, usage goes back down below 80% ish, and performance proceeds to be great the rest of the match
Has this happened to anyone else? Any ideas?
Eduardboon
Member
I sure hope nobody is playing with vsync turned on. The locked 60 might be amazing, but the input lag is going to be horrible.
EarsOfASnake
Member
Was there an Nvidia tweak guide for this?
ISee
Member
While turning, the weapon (or in 3p the character model) remains sharp , while the environment turns into a blurry mess. This is intended to simulate fast movement and can help in 30fps games or to help with frame drops and inconsistent fps, but I do not like the effect to be honest. It's turned off for me.
Also new DF Video: Star Wars Battlefront GTX 970 vs R9 390 1080p Ultra Benchmarks. Will add to OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwfVnj0t8zc
EDIT:
Better performance on both GPUs since the beta ... up to 20fps in the tatooine scene. HOLLY SHIT. That's an insane improvement. What is DICE doing? Is this game render in parts on cloud servers? Did they unlock hidden GPUs on PC? I do not get it.
Yup, I have it off too, I hate MB in games it makes no sense at all. Also 390 doing work, great card very happy with it
glassgannon
Banned
im assembling a pc in january(4670k,970)
worth waiting ? considering the game depends on community i hope it doesnt die out .
i can still get it on ps4 rnow...how big is the difference?
worth waiting ? considering the game depends on community i hope it doesnt die out .
i can still get it on ps4 rnow...how big is the difference?
ISee
Member
Hard to tell as we aren't sure about the equivalent settings on PC to emulate PS4 graphical style. It seems to be a mix of high/medium. BUT...
900p on High settings (everything) with TAA upscaled to 1080p (at least close to ps4 settings)
1080p on Ultra with TAA
1080p + 20% in resolution + FXAA high (That's how I prefer to play the game on my 970; locked 60fps).
Also you can use some sharpening tools to improve TAA blurriness in the PC version (really increases IQ). Check Crisium posts or read the OP (scroll down a bit, i try to have all significant informations in there)
Edit:
1080p +10% in resolution on Ultra +TAA + 1.0 sharp_strength in LUMASHARPEN - SweetFX. Also a valid option with improved IQ for 970 owners (locked 60fps)
ISee
Member
Woho. Just tested this... really much higher responsiveness. WTF?!
Impulsor
Member
I'm gonna test this out today.
Forced Vsync via Nvidia Control Panel
No Vsync
Software Vsync
Will report results later.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
can't get this to drop below 60fps no matter what i do. playing at 1080p with everything maxed + TAA on. The game is using a lot of RAM is what I've noticed. About 6GB RAM and well over 3GB VRAM. Very happy with the gameplay performance although they could do with a little polish in the menus.
specs:
i5-4590/16GB/R9 290 4GB (OC'd ~12% w/15.11.1 drivers)
specs:
i5-4590/16GB/R9 290 4GB (OC'd ~12% w/15.11.1 drivers)
What's the difference between different AAs?
In pictures, TAA looks blurry but is it better in motion?
Performance-wise, i've understood TAA is more demanding?
And would dropping AA but increasing render scale give even better picture?
I really don't know anything about AA in games in general. For years, i've always turned of anti-aliasing because i haven't had a computer that is powerful enough to run with it (or in case of older games, i haven't just bothered to use it).
Currently using High FXAA because that was the default and everything else was Ultra (no Vsync, Freesync is superb).
The game runs superbly and perfectly, basically locked 79 FPS. There's some stuttering in the beginning usually though, i assume it is because the game loads assets etc., it vanishes soon enough. EDIT FPS according to FRAPS. I assume it is correct. Still wondering if 79 is some quirk of Freesync.
The only graphical glitches i've seen where in the Beggar's Canyon (or whatever it was called) intro, the X-wing engine lights flicker; and the skybox in Hoth is bugged, clouds are visible only sometimes.
Specs:
Core i5-6600K
16GB DDR4 2666MHZ
MSI R9 390, latest AMD beta drivers
No overclocking.
In pictures, TAA looks blurry but is it better in motion?
Performance-wise, i've understood TAA is more demanding?
And would dropping AA but increasing render scale give even better picture?
I really don't know anything about AA in games in general. For years, i've always turned of anti-aliasing because i haven't had a computer that is powerful enough to run with it (or in case of older games, i haven't just bothered to use it).
Currently using High FXAA because that was the default and everything else was Ultra (no Vsync, Freesync is superb).
The game runs superbly and perfectly, basically locked 79 FPS. There's some stuttering in the beginning usually though, i assume it is because the game loads assets etc., it vanishes soon enough. EDIT FPS according to FRAPS. I assume it is correct. Still wondering if 79 is some quirk of Freesync.
The only graphical glitches i've seen where in the Beggar's Canyon (or whatever it was called) intro, the X-wing engine lights flicker; and the skybox in Hoth is bugged, clouds are visible only sometimes.
Specs:
Core i5-6600K
16GB DDR4 2666MHZ
MSI R9 390, latest AMD beta drivers
No overclocking.
ISee
Member
May I suggest the OP (a.k.a. first post). There is a section just for AA, with pictures, some impressions (like the benefits of TAA over FXAA and vice versa) and even a guide how to improve TAA (by Crisium). It's amazing as if someone was collecting all useful information that came up in the thread.
Looking forward to your impressions.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Apologies for quoting myself, anyone any ideas? I've only just returned to PC gaming after a long absence and I'm a bit rusty.
ISee
Member
As I have no idea how bad they are... most probably yes. What are your settings?
Normally people like to adjust fov to at least 90 in first person shooters. But in my humble opinion, play it in 3P mode. Way more effective than 1P and 90 fov.
Battlefront FOV slider is vertical but people usually talk about horizontal FOV. There are calculators available for converting vertical value to horizontal.
68 vertical gives 100 horizontal, which avoids fish-eye effect (assuming 1080p resolution) while being reasonably wide. Seems like a sweet spot to me. It is largely a personal preference though.
Good FOV probably depends on your viewing distance as well.
68 vertical gives 100 horizontal, which avoids fish-eye effect (assuming 1080p resolution) while being reasonably wide. Seems like a sweet spot to me. It is largely a personal preference though.
Good FOV probably depends on your viewing distance as well.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Thanks for the replies.
I set the preset mode to Ultra, which I assume sets all the individual settings to max. ( on a 970 with an i5 2.5k and 8 GB RAM), getting a smooth framerate. Tbh it's not actually that bad, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it so I assume there's a dodgy setting in-game or in my GPU settings.
I'll play around with the FOV and see what I like.
I gave this a shot last night and, although it is probably the best solution I have seen so far for toning down the blurry effect of post anti-aliasing methods, it's still just not sharp enough for me. I'm one of those weirdos who can tolerate aliasing artifacts as long as it retains a crisp image.
Had no idea this was an issue. I have vsync forced on in Nvidia control panel though, with rivatuner limiting FPS to 60. With this setup I get no tearing and a constant 60fps with no detectable input lag.
I have mine set to 59, which is 90 horizontal. Looks great. No fisheye and I can see quite a bit.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
I don't have a 970 but there was a bit of pop in for me. I have 16GB RAM, 4GB VRAM, and I'm on ssd.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
Might have to borrow the game from my bro to test performance before buying.
i7-2720QM, 16GB, GTX970
The CPU didn't have any trouble during the beta, but the new (e)GPU is connected via a single expresscard 2 port (with Optimus taking half the bandwidth) so I'm mainly interested in potential PCIe congestion. BF4 did work beautifully, so I'm rather confident about Battlefront being light on the bus as well. Does anyone here have a similar setup or tools to measure the traffic?
i7-2720QM, 16GB, GTX970
The CPU didn't have any trouble during the beta, but the new (e)GPU is connected via a single expresscard 2 port (with Optimus taking half the bandwidth) so I'm mainly interested in potential PCIe congestion. BF4 did work beautifully, so I'm rather confident about Battlefront being light on the bus as well. Does anyone here have a similar setup or tools to measure the traffic?