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Media Create Sales: Week 46, 2015 (Nov 9 - Nov 15)

BriBri

Member
I still prefer Rabbids Land. Funassyi doesn't deserve such disrespect.

Seriously though, is there anything up with FuRyu? Two games (Unchained Blades sequel and Hamatora) are set to be removed from the eShop and I have no idea why?
 
PS4 has so many japanese system sellers in 2016. It should be an amazing year.

From the top of my head:

- Final Fantasy XV
- World of Final Fantasy
- Dissidia Final Fantasy (very likely)
- Kingdom Hearts 2.8
- Dragon Quest XI (maybe 2017)
- Dragon Quest Builders
- Dragon Quest Heroes 2
- Nier Automata
- Star Ocean 5
- Gran Turismo Sports
- The Last Guardian
- Gravity Rush 2
- New Minna no Golf
- Level-5 & Sony Collaboration Project (maybe 2017)
- Street Fighter V
- Yakuza 6
- Yakuza 1 Remake
- New Valkyria
- Dark Souls 3
- Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 4
- King of Fighters XIV
- Ni-Oh
- Tales of Berseria
- Persona 5
- Tekken 7
- One Piece Burning Blood
- Resident Evil Zero HD
- Resident Evil 7 (very likely IMO)
- Devil May Cry 5 (very likely IMO)

And probably some others I am forgetting! Add to that big western hitters like Uncharted 4 and COD!

DQ XI should be 2016, they are not going to miss the anniversary.

But yeah it will be an amazing year for PS4. Very strong lineup.
 

Kid Ying

Member
Hum. Maybe it isn't actually a large shipment, then, and he was just poking fun.
It still on the blog though. Not uneexpected at all. Last AC spinoffs sold quite well. Retailers must be confidente that this one is going to move too. If it was a good game, it would surely be a success.

And Bribri, i don't know how much the companies have to pay to mantain, but its not inusual to see them taking their games out.
 

L~A

Member
FE# has quite a potential. The biggest mistake is the release date though.. (why so late in December?)

I don't think the release date is an issue. Genei Ibun Roku #FE isn't really the kind of games parents will buy for their kids, so coming out in late December isn't a mistake. Looks like they picked up that date to get the New Year buyers, though I'm sure the "core" players interested in this kind of games don't really care about the release date.

I still prefer Rabbids Land. Funassyi doesn't deserve such disrespect.

Seriously though, is there anything up with FuRyu? Two games (Unchained Blades sequel and Hamatora) are set to be removed from the eShop and I have no idea why?

One of them is a licenced game (Hamatora), so I assume it's because of their licence expiring. Does Unchain Blades 2 have any licenced stuff in it?
 

BriBri

Member
One of them is a licenced game (Hamatora), so I assume it's because of their licence expiring. Does Unchain Blades 2 have any licenced stuff in it?
I reached the same conclusion with Hamatora but totally bombuzaled as to why the other game is disappearing.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Media Create's report

After two weeks:

[ALL] Call of Duty: Black Ops III # <ACT> (SCEJ & Microsoft) {2015.11.06} (¥8.532) - 222.000
<PS4: 187k + PS3: 32k + One & 360: 2k>

[ALL] Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Subtitled Edition & Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.11.13} (¥8.424) - 209.000
<PS3: 116k + PS4: 87k + One & 360: 6k>

According to MC, Black Ops III is selling better than the last year's Advanced Warfare Subtitled and Dubbed version combined for the same period.

http://www.m-create.com/ranking/
 

Road

Member
I forgot to put the November prediction in time, so I think we should do at least Monster Hunter X first week prediction for this month.

PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) -
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) -

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Deadline: November 25 2015 08:00 am (EST)
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Rules:
  • Do not edit your post after the deadline. If you do, you'll be disqualified.
  • The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
  • The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
  • The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
  • The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
  • Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
 

DrWong

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):

[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1450K
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 83K
 

horuhe

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):

[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1.317.063
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 68.102
 

Sterok

Member
I was looking over Nintendo's spin-off filled year, and then I realized that I don't think Japan had many new mainline entries in the big series. Just Tales, Fire Emblem, and Metal Gear from what I can recall. Maybe Mario Maker and/or Monster Hunter X depending on how you define spin-offs. That might be a reason why this year was so underwhelming overall.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Small mobile update, but with what I assume is an anniversary event (the game released approximately one year ago), Square Enix's Million Arthur series has achieved its highest ever chart position at #2.

This is also during the holiday period which is seasonally stronger for mobile game revenue.


Sega and LINE have also announced a marketing partnership: http://www.serkantoto.com/2015/11/2...apan-announce-first-smartphone-game-fortisia/

The reason for this is that LINE has an extreme successful casual game distribution network (which IIRC Puyo Puyo Quest is part of), but struggles with distributing mid-core titles, while Sega excels at launching titles in the genre.

There's a lot more at the link, but:

INE Corp. and Sega Games (6460) announced a marketing partnership for mobile games in Japan during a joint press conference yesterday.

Not too surprisingly, Sega will act as the developer and publisher under the deal, while LINE Corp. will offer its messenger app as a platform for mass marketing and distribution.

The reason LINE gave for choosing this particular partner is Sega&#8217;s strong portfolio of mid-core games (at least over here on the Japanese market), a field LINE still struggles to expand into.

Sega&#8217;s motivation for teaming up with LINE is simple: the chat app boasts 50 million+ MAU in Japan alone, and while it currently offers 67 different titles on its LINE Game platform, the number of RPGs and other &#8220;non-casual&#8221; titles is relatively low.

(LINE Corp. said all of their games combined have been downloaded 605 million times since it started this business back in 2012.)

...

The first game is Fortisia, a 3D real time co-op action rpg releasing this year:

 

Yeshua

Member
Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1500000
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 100000
 

L~A

Member
As of this week, Minecraft is the leggiest games of the year in Japan (and that's it for 2015).

Final Top 3 for 2015 (none of the games further down the list can take them over):

 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
21./00. [PSV] Nobunaga's Ambition: Tenshoki with Power-Up Kit - HD Version <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.11.12} (¥6.264)
22./00. [XB1] Rise of the Tomb Raider # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2015.11.12} (¥7.452)
23./14. [PSV] Yomawari <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2015.10.29} (¥6.458)
24./24. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [1/1][New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥5.389)
25./06. [PSV] To Love-Ru Trouble: Darkness - True Princess # <SLG> (FuRyu) {2015.11.05} (¥7.538)
26./26. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.06.11} (¥5.076)
27./27. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.937)
28./25. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2016 <SPT> (Konami) {2015.10.01} (¥8.208)
29./18. [3DS] LEGO Jurassic World <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2015.11.05} (¥5.076)
30./32. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800)
31./29. [3DS] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King <RPG> (Square Enix) {2015.08.27} (¥6.458)
32./22. [PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain # <ADV> (Konami) {2015.09.02} (¥9.072)
33./40. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} (¥7.776)
34./21. [3DS] 7th Dragon III Code: VFD <RPG> (Sega) {2015.10.15} (¥6.469)
35./36. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 # <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156)
36./00. [WIU] Art Academy: Home Studio <HOB> (Nintendo) {2015.11.12} (¥3.996)
37./30. [3DS] Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.10.08} (¥5.076)
38./39. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.616)
39./31. [3DS] Monster Hunter Diary: Poka Poka Airu Village DX <ETC> (Capcom) {2015.09.10} (¥4.309)
40./37. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
41./33. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain # <ADV> (Konami) {2015.09.02} (¥9.072)
42./45. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800)
43./42. [PSV] Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen # <SLG> (Aqua Plus) {2015.09.24} (¥7.344)
44./41. [PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational [1/1][PlayStation Vita the Best] # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.10} (¥2.940)
45./43. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.08.07} (¥6.145)
46./23. [WIU] LEGO Jurassic World <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2015.11.05} (¥6.156)
47./34. [PSV] Tokyo Xanadu # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2015.09.30} (¥6.998)
48./38. [PS4] Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection <Uncharted: Drake's Fortune \ Uncharted 2: Among Thieves \ Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception> <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.10.08} (¥7.452)
49./00. [WIU] Mario Party 10 # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.03.12} (¥5.616)
50./49. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V [2/2][New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥3.499)

Top 50

3DS - 21
PS4 - 9
PSV - 8
WIU - 7
PS3 - 4
XB1 - 1

SOFTWARE
Code:
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|  ALL  |    420.000 |    573.000 |    637.000 | 27.910.000 | 33.405.000 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Code:
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|                     PS4                       |                     PS3                       |
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|   from    -    to     |    YTD    |    LTD    |   from    -    to     |    YTD    |    LTD    |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|2014.02.17 - 2014.12.28|  925.570  |   925.570 |2006.11.06 - 2007.09.16| 1.186.463 | 1.186.463 |
|2014.12.29 - 2015.12.27|  969.556  | 1.895.126 |2007.09.17 - 2008.09.14| 1.158.955 | 2.345.418 |
|2015.12.28 - 2016.12.25|           |           |2008.09.15 - 2009.09.13| 1.140.835 | 3.486.253 |
|2016.12.26 - 2017.12.24|           |           |2009.09.14 - 2010.09.12| 2.015.670 | 5.501.923 |
|2017.12.25 - 2018.12.30|           |           |2010.09.13 - 2011.09.18| 1.408.740 | 6.910.663 |
|2018.12.31 - 2019.12.29|           |           |2011.09.19 - 2012.09.16| 1.381.496 | 8.292.159 |
|2020.12.28 - 2020.12.27|           |           |2012.09.17 - 2013.09.15| 1.046.722 | 9.338.881 |
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casiopao

Member
Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1820000
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 100000
 

Eolz

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1640k
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 96k


They're releasing even Odin Sphere on PS3, so I'd say that's not gonna happen.

You shouldn't compare the strategy for Persona 5 with a remake of a really niche game. Look at Dragon Quest Heroes instead. If they want the JRPG fanbase to make the transition in the west, they will limit the platform.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
PREDICTION LEAGUE NOVEMBER 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the week (from Nov 23 to Nov 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter X (2 days) - 1940k
[3DS] Hardware (7 days) - 96k




You shouldn't compare the strategy for Persona 5 with a remake of a really niche game. Look at Dragon Quest Heroes instead. If they want the JRPG fanbase to make the transition in the west, they will limit the platform.
Unless they think it's a non-viable product, I don't see why they would.

Like I'm trying to imagine why any publisher on earth would be worried about the Western audience transitioning to PS4 given the sales rate of the platform.

Dragon Quest strikes me as a scenario where they thought it wouldn't sell anything on the platform. Trying to follow the "transition" logic, why put out Dragon Quest games on 3DS, mobile, and PC in the West if they want the audience on PS4?
 

Vena

Member
You shouldn't compare the strategy for Persona 5 with a remake of a really niche game. Look at Dragon Quest Heroes instead. If they want the JRPG fanbase to make the transition in the west, they will limit the platform.

Its not really their job (especially with a niche product) to move the audience. A niche product will more likely simply not be compelling for a 400$ package. And I don't know how far I'd throw DQH as a metric, as this past NPD wasn't exactly lighting the charts. Maybe as a metric on how fast a product can get to steam.
 

Eolz

Member
Unless they think it's a non-viable product, I don't see why they would.

Like I'm trying to imagine why any publisher on earth would be worried about the Western audience transitioning to PS4 given the sales rate of the platform.

Dragon Quest strikes me as a scenario where they thought it wouldn't sell anything on the platform. Trying to follow the "transition" logic, why put out Dragon Quest games on 3DS, mobile, and PC in the West if they want the audience on PS4?

Its not really their job (especially with a niche product) to move the audience. A niche product will more likely simply not be compelling for a 400$ package. And I don't know how far I'd throw DQH as a metric, as this past NPD wasn't exactly lighting the charts. Maybe as a metric on how fast a product can get to steam.

We'll see. I just think that the PS4 is already at a userbase big enough in the west to justify that, since it isn't that big in the west (it's way bigger than in the past, sure, but let's not kid ourselves) and the game has been delayed once again. Japanese support is starting to be on this platform and making some people switch platforms when the ratio was already going to be in favor of PS4 in the west just makes sense.
It's not a "I'll buy a PS4 for one game" situation but a "I'm making the jump because there's this on top of this, even if I'd have preferred to wait longer" one.

Not using DQH as a metric, but as an example of a game that wouldn't sell much better if it was also on PS3, and with a bigger relevance and potential than Odin Sphere HD.
For Nirolak's final question: why put DQXI on PS4 if they don't want to make a transition there? Why not do a PS3 version since the PS3 could handle a downgraded version? Anyway, again, it wasn't about DQ (an IP that is not really relevant in the west and works better when put everywhere) but P5. A game with a fanbase a bit more dedicated nowadays and usually Sony-bound.

edit: oh yeah, wanted to say as well that while Atlus is still pretty much free from many decisions, I think that Sega might have a say in their western strategy for big titles (which I think P5 is internally).
 

Spiegel

Member
We'll see. I just think that the PS4 is already at a userbase big enough in the west to justify that, since it isn't that big in the west (it's way bigger than in the past, sure, but let's not kid ourselves) and the game has been delayed once again. Japanese support is starting to be on this platform and making some people switch platforms when the ratio was already going to be in favor of PS4 in the west just makes sense.
It's not a "I'll buy a PS4 for one game" situation but a "I'm making the jump because there's this on top of this, even if I'd have preferred to wait longer" one.

Not using DQH as a metric, but as an example of a game that wouldn't sell much better if it was also on PS3, and with a bigger relevance and potential than Odin Sphere HD.
For Nirolak's final question: why put DQXI on PS4 if they don't want to make a transition there? Why not do a PS3 version since the PS3 could handle a downgraded version? Anyway, again, it wasn't about DQ (an IP that is not really relevant in the west and works better when put everywhere) but P5. A game with a fanbase a bit more dedicated nowadays and usually Sony-bound.

edit: oh yeah, wanted to say as well that while Atlus is still pretty much free from many decisions, I think that Sega might have a say in their western strategy for big titles (which I think P5 is internally).

PS3 can't handle an Unreal Engine 4 game. (DQXI)
 

Xbro

Member
7 days from release:

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 3274pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 2399pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter Cross - 2350pt
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
edit: oh yeah, wanted to say as well that while Atlus is still pretty much free from many decisions, I think that Sega might have a say in their western strategy for big titles (which I think P5 is internally).

I think people don't understand this business arrangement.

Sega 100% owns Atlus. They can tell them to do anything they want.

They've (on the surface at least) left the business to run as it is because it's a successful business, so there's no real incentive to rock the boat beyond putting in more money or giving more development time.

This is similar to how Sega manages Sega West, where as long as things are going well, they don't do anything. Only when they start losing lots of money are they told to really change things up. These days though they're run notably better than Sega Games Japan (especially since Sega Networks was split out from that division), so at this point Sega Games Japan isn't telling anyone much of anything.
 
I just realised that Koei-Tecmo have done one of these Nobunaga remakes before earlier this year:

18./00. [3DS] Nobunaga's Ambition 2 # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.08.06} (¥5.184) - 4.443 / NEW <20-40%>

21./00. [PSV] Nobunaga's Ambition: Tenshoki with Power-Up Kit - HD Version <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.11.12} (¥6.264) - 2.326 / NEW <20-40%>

How on earth do they make money from this stuff? Do they eventually sell through their shipments at close to full price or something?
 

Vena

Member
I just realised that Koei-Tecmo have done one of these Nobunaga remakes before earlier this year:

18./00. [3DS] Nobunaga's Ambition 2 # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.08.06} (¥5.184) - 4.443 / NEW <20-40%>

21./00. [PSV] Nobunaga's Ambition: Tenshoki with Power-Up Kit - HD Version <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2015.11.12} (¥6.264) - 2.326 / NEW <20-40%>

How on earth do they make money from this stuff? Do they eventually sell through their shipments at close to full price or something?

Probably a minor recompile effort (so effectively an upscaled, re-rendered port) rather than an all out remake and likely have a deal with Sony on no licensing fees. They may well need to sell all of like 5k units to break even or profit.
 

HGH

Banned
My apologies for what is likely a dumb question, but privately owned companies don't usually put up financial reports do they?
 

Fisico

Member
How on earth do they make money from this stuff? Do they eventually sell through their shipments at close to full price or something?

I think it was already mentionned on an earlier topic, but they are rather cheap to make AND they have interesting sales on the overall Asian market (something we don't have much data for unfortunately)
 
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