I introduced myself to the reporting neighbor and asked if he was aware of the gravity of his actions the ocean of armed officers, my life in danger. He stuttered about never having seen me, before snippily asking if I knew my next-door neighbor. After confirming that I did and questioning him further, he angrily responded, Im an attorney, so you can go f yourself, and walked away.
The woman is totally right that this was handled improperly. But I can't understand from the article, did she actually break the lock to her house and enter because she was late to a soccer game? If I didn't know me neighbors well enough, I probably would have reported that too.
That doesn't excuse the behavior or justifications of the police officers, or the lack of professionalism by the Santa Monica Police Department.
There really is a defense force for everything on GAF.. Damn.I'm like 50/50 on this.
I can understand both sides of the story.
The unapologetic neighbor is an asshole though.
Technically she is now doing the same thing. Maybe she has the right due to the situation, but this is the endless circle that keeps getting worse. Everybody is stereotyping everybody. We all have to stop painting with such a large brush on every situation
The problem is that they didn't followed the protocol after they replied to that call.To them, they're free from criticism because of protocol.
/facepalmI introduced myself to the reporting neighbor and asked if he was aware of the gravity of his actions — the ocean of armed officers, my life in danger. He stuttered about never having seen me, before snippily asking if I knew my next-door neighbor. After confirming that I did and questioning him further, he angrily responded, “I’m an attorney, so you can go f— yourself,” and walked away.
The Police Chief's response: http://santamonicapd.org/Content.aspx?id=54286
She's black too.
It could have been handled better by the cops but at least they didn't shoot her. Some can't say the same, or anything at all...
From my perspective, the 9-1-1 caller was not wrong for reporting what he believed was an in-progress residential burglary. Put yourself in his place. Ms. Wells is not wrong to feel as she does. Put yourself in her shoes. And, the Santa Monica Police Department's response was not wrong. Put yourself in the officers' shoes.
She locked herself out but went to the soccer game anyways. Came back with a locksmith afterwards and that's when the neighbor saw people poking around and called the coppers.
Definite overkill police response. Neighbor did the right thing but is an asshole in the aftermath.
Technically she is now doing the same thing. Maybe she has the right due to the situation, but this is the endless circle that keeps getting worse. Everybody is stereotyping everybody. We all have to stop painting with such a large brush on every situation
She locked herself out but went to the soccer game anyways. Came back with a locksmith afterwards and that's when the neighbor saw people poking around and called the coppers.
Definite overkill police response. Neighbor did the right thing but is an asshole in the aftermath.
Terrible situation that should have never happened
However, when reading the last paragraph I had a thought:
Isn't that exactly what cops have done? Make generalizations.
Technically she is now doing the same thing. Maybe she has the right due to the situation, but this is the endless circle that keeps getting worse. Everybody is stereotyping everybody. We all have to stop painting with such a large brush on every situation
But they didn't false call 911.
NoRéN;186658793 said:His response, Im an attorney, so you can go f yourself,
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Isn't that exactly what cops have done? Make generalizations.
Technically she is now doing the same thing. Maybe she has the right due to the situation, but this is the endless circle that keeps getting worse. Everybody is stereotyping everybody. We all have to stop painting with such a large brush on every situation
Time to bump the "_____ while Black" thread#43. going home while ___
Why do you equate these instances of stereotyping?
Does he know all of the other neighbors? I seriously doubt it. How many others has he called police about? I'm guessing none.
But they didn't false call 911.Yes, he did. You can't hire a locksmith to break into someone else's home. They check ID.
The whole point would be if you weren't sure if either person was actually on the up and up. I get what you are saying, but the point would be if it was staged IE two robbers one dressed up as a locksmith.
Sort of like how you hear about fake cops or fake people selling alarm systems or fake handymen going around neighborhoods.
Plus like I said in THEORY if you weren't sure you would just go and feel the situation out first. The problem being if you aren't sure you probably shouldn't interject yourself into the unknown situation.
You sorta have to remove the fact that the guy is an asshole from the act itself.
I know we've already brought up the ludicrous number of officers a lot, but it's still baffling. Is there any reason for them to respond with 16-19 cops for a reportedly-unarmed break-in? And that's ignoring the fact that they went into her apartment without her permission after she provided evidence? Seriously, this kind of stuff is disgusting.
Terrible situation that should have never happened
However, when reading the last paragraph I had a thought:
Isn't that exactly what cops have done? Make generalizations.
Technically she is now doing the same thing. Maybe she has the right due to the situation, but this is the endless circle that keeps getting worse. Everybody is stereotyping everybody. We all have to stop painting with such a large brush on every situation
Absolutely fucking ridiculous is right.
16 cops for one black woman just trying to enter her apartment. Are you kidding me!???
If she was white, the cops would help her break in.
If she was white, the cops would help her break in.
x 19
I'm a black teenager I haven't felt safe or welcome around a police officer for a long time for so many reasons.
Terrible situation that should have never happened
However, when reading the last paragraph I had a thought:
Isn't that exactly what cops have done? Make generalizations.
Technically she is now doing the same thing. Maybe she has the right due to the situation, but this is the endless circle that keeps getting worse. Everybody is stereotyping everybody. We all have to stop painting with such a large brush on every situation
That is terrible, and needs fixed
How do we repair this country-wide?
Such a frustrating situation. Wish things didn't operate like this
Cops cannot be compared to race. Come on.
If you want a very practical solution, but also unrealistic due to the prison lobby, end the war on drugs for one.
The war on drugs is a minority disenfranchisement and imprisonment system.
Anyone who thinks this would've happened to a white person is full of shit.
If she was white, the cops would help her break in.
Santa monica.....hrmm
I thought LA was free of racism. Disappointed that isnt the case
I'm a black teenager I haven't felt safe or welcome around a police officer for a long time for so many reasons.
That is terrible, and needs fixed
How do we repair this country-wide?
Such a frustrating situation. Wish things didn't operate like this
Yes, they can be.
Some seem to be 100% against cops due to recent news stories. Even if the cop in question is very professional and not guilty of the offenses of others. Many are judging cops as a whole instead of individually
Black folk have ample reason not to trust any cops, this woman especiall. Cops are part of a system, an institution that is extremely racist. None of that applies to race.
They are so drastically different things. It's disingenious to even think of drawing that comparison.
That is terrible, and needs fixed
How do we repair this country-wide?
Such a frustrating situation. Wish things didn't operate like this
EDIT: What if we exclude white people from the police force? It would never happen, but it would be interesting
So because somebody is a cop they are automatically racist by association? They deserve to be judged in that way?
We should all automatically assume these things about every single cop?