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Digitimes Rumor: Nintendo to ship 10-12m NX units in 2016, mass production in Q2
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Deleted member 465307
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I agree about the desirability, but I disagree about the price of a handheld. The 3DS launched at $250 and quickly afterwards was followed by an $80 price cut. That to me says that Nintendo won't launch another handheld at that price again without having something cheaper on the market. I'd expect the price of a new Nintendo handheld to arrive at $170-$220. If there is a second model, like the XL or similar to the iPhone 6 Plus compared against the 6, then I'd say it might arrive at $250. But I can't see the cheapest option being available at what was 3DS's downfall 5 years ago.
I agree with your logic about the home console. I think Nintendo needs to launch at $250-$300, but I'm guessing it'll be $350.
Really? It already hit that low? I only ever saw 300 bundles. I guess I didn't look hard enough.
Some deals are loss leaders. Or offered via rebates/cards.
Nothing1016
Member
I was thinking about pricing and was wondering how plausible is it that Nintendo actually launches at three price points? $150, $250, and $350? Would it be too confusing brand wise?
Edit: Now that I think about it... It doesn't make much sense unless they have specific markets in mind. Or they bundle the console and handheld together. The middle price would end up feeling liking something compromised if it was a third form factor.
Edit: Now that I think about it... It doesn't make much sense unless they have specific markets in mind. Or they bundle the console and handheld together. The middle price would end up feeling liking something compromised if it was a third form factor.
Why? Does the Wii U have a kill switch that activates when the NX releases that I didn't know about?
That's what marketing and branding are for. I don't see them launching with 3 different models though.
Nothing1016
Member
Yup. Now that I think about it. It doesn't make much sense. What would a $250 machine offer over the other two? The only way it would make sense is if $150 was handheld, $250 was console, and $350 was both.... But that will never happen.
nephilimdj
Member
Not that shocked, 2016 is the year something will drop, question is when
Its good if you wanna buy Just Dance 2017 on your WiiU, sure
Its good if you wanna buy Just Dance 2017 on your WiiU, sure
Why y'all do this? Every generation and what do we get? Ports and nintendoland.
Even if the forecast is true (which I doubt) it's pointless until the product is announced and they get a real market feedback with preorders.
Btw I'm really looking forward to see what Nintendo is cooking. If they are making a unified platform with different SKUs (home, handheld) but same games (with graphical differences) I think it will be an interesting product, at least for the potential of playing all Nintendo games on a single platform.
Btw I'm really looking forward to see what Nintendo is cooking. If they are making a unified platform with different SKUs (home, handheld) but same games (with graphical differences) I think it will be an interesting product, at least for the potential of playing all Nintendo games on a single platform.
Yea....and those same folks probably wont be getting an NX when it launches. Probably wont until a few years after it launches.
Its a Catch 22, rock and a hard place Nintendo have themselves in.
Not only ppl but Nintendo will as well. MS is already straying away from XBO console sales. I can see Nintendo combining sales of both.
Look at someone already mentioning in this thread historical Nintendo hardware sales and combining home and handheld sales as reference. They basically have been the only successful handheld maker for many years. Someone questioning the numbers is obviously talking about the home console.
They will try handhelds only before going 3rd party, mobile. They basically are the handheld market by themselves.
As for the NX...I will be optimistic like I was for the Wii U. But I dont think it will sell well. Someone mentioned an Ouya, Shield type of device. I can see that happening. I havent even ruled out a mobile phone or a tablet.
Death. This is their final time and it better be a good one.
difference there being that certain teams are going to have to have things ready by next year. ead tokyo is due, retro studios is due. it's zelda's 30th anniversary and pokemon's 20th anniversary. these are games that would have sway at launch big time.
i don't think they're hitting all at once though. pokemon might be a 3ds game based on the precedent of black/white and black/white 2 happening before x/y, but zelda's definitely a launch title and i think we'll have a 3d mario at launch too, with retro's game saved for february or march.
Pokemaniac
Member
Pokemon will be 3DS. Switching hardware mid-gen is just asking for trouble.
mid-gen? didn't they have their chance for a gen vi part two and waste it this year?
pokemon gen i-2 next year for the 20th anniversary as an nx launch game let's do this.
Dude. They got nothing. They always have nothing.
Well, Zelda. And they're going to treat it like a whole launch lineup in itself.
Pfft, Nintendo has enough money in the bank to survive at least 2 generations more.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Core players as you and me? Right. A grandfather or a parent looking for something cool to give their children on holidays? I don't think they think to much about specs to really care if the price gap if fairly big (like $100 between the lower and higher tier)
Black-Wind
Member
People seem set on thinking we're getting a XYZ game or something soon no matter what.
IMO Nintendo may have wised up and told GF to get to stepping on a NX launch mainline title. I mean, I just can't help but think that Nintendo was riding high on the success of the DS and thought that would carry over to the 3DS so they didn't worry and let GF drag their feet on making the change.
A mainline Pokemon game is a guaranteed massive boon for release.
nephilimdj
Member
I would actually like to see gamefreak make a internal pokemon spinoff for the 20th, Tembo team most likely could do it.
Plus I have a feeling gen1 will come to mobile, 6 odd months after its 3DS release.
Plus I have a feeling gen1 will come to mobile, 6 odd months after its 3DS release.
if there was a possibility of having a pokemon, zelda, and mario at launch, i'd fucking take it. i could definitely see iwata gently pushing gf in that direction. the 9th gen should be them taking no chances with scheduling.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I think the game's just late. Pokemon's generally a well-oiled machine with branding, they wouldn't have established "XYZ" stuff in all other facets of the series and then just forgot with the game.
Pokemaniac
Member
It's pretty common for Game Freak to take a year or two off during a generation. Besides, stuff like the anime transitioning to XY & Z basically confirms that Z version is a thing.
See above.
Basically, this.
EndlessFloydian
Member
I think it'll be fine. Oh, and Xbox 360 came 4 years after original Xbox, fwiw.
you can also point to sega doing kind of the same thing with the master system (although that was already a weird journey in and of itself) and the mega drive, and sega again with the saturn and the dreamcast.
the wii u is the best option for an 8th gen family console, but mostly a luxury item for nintendo fans. mainstream nintendo fans will have a 3ds, which is pretty much maxed out in all honestly.
Pokemaniac
Member
It's not really that short when you consider the context of how it performed on the market. It's only really one year short of a standard lifetime. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Umm, don't all 3 use foxconn?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
You could effectively pay $240 for an Xbone game bundle last week at Target.
foxconn also manufactured wii u, xbox one, and i believe ps4 units.
FWIW, here's the original (identical) Digitimes rumor from July 02.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150702PD204.html
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150702PD204.html
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Wasnt foxconn in trouble for mis managing their employees or something? Like unsafe working conditions? Or am I thinking of something else or did everyone throw a fit over it but forgot it like everything else? lol
And here's the original GAF thread from July 02, based on the same rumor:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1073971
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1073971
omnislayer
Member
Yes using unpaid college interns for menial labor or something.
All the major consoles are manufactured by them so this wouldn't be anything new.
it seems like they actually provided an update on the situation, saying that things are actually underway, but won't be able to meet nintendo's demands for the year.
Azure Dream
Member
Yes, they should keep on beating this dead horse instead. Maybe it will surprisingly rise up and take them galloping across the vast
empty
Zelda is still for Wii U.
I always get lost with Nintendo NX threads go into speculating that NX will be "underpowered". I don't expect Nintendo to release a home console that is not at least on par technologically with what's already on the market. They have never done that as far as I can remember. They already have the weakest console (which that they should be able to manufacture more cheaply in the coming years) and they're going to drop it to release another machine that'll struggle to get ports from their competitors' consoles? It would be a completely inexplicable move.
Nintendo must know definitively that they cannot support their consoles singe-handedly especially in an era where "AAA" games require so many resources to make. For that same reason, third party developers want to be able to easily port their titles to different platforms which means that a console that doesn't share baseline functionality with the others (and also has the lowest userbase) will get left out. The Wii suffered in that way but the effects were offset by its massive independent success.
When the NX launches PS4 would have been out for about three years. I cannot imagine a universe where Nintendo releases a new console that doesn't match a machine that came out three years before it. So I find speculcation that NX won't match the PS4 to be largely pointless. IMO, nobody should expect that as it would be extremely bizarre. If they turn out to be right, "Scotty, beam me up".
I can understand speculation that there probably won't be a "generational gap" even though NX will technically be the successor to Wii U and therefore the next generation after XBS4. But obviously weaker? No way! Nintendo wants NX out quickly to narrow the technological gap and generate renewed interest to revitalize its home console business.
Nintendo must know definitively that they cannot support their consoles singe-handedly especially in an era where "AAA" games require so many resources to make. For that same reason, third party developers want to be able to easily port their titles to different platforms which means that a console that doesn't share baseline functionality with the others (and also has the lowest userbase) will get left out. The Wii suffered in that way but the effects were offset by its massive independent success.
When the NX launches PS4 would have been out for about three years. I cannot imagine a universe where Nintendo releases a new console that doesn't match a machine that came out three years before it. So I find speculcation that NX won't match the PS4 to be largely pointless. IMO, nobody should expect that as it would be extremely bizarre. If they turn out to be right, "Scotty, beam me up".
I can understand speculation that there probably won't be a "generational gap" even though NX will technically be the successor to Wii U and therefore the next generation after XBS4. But obviously weaker? No way! Nintendo wants NX out quickly to narrow the technological gap and generate renewed interest to revitalize its home console business.
Milly Osworth
Member
Only 1 month until 2016 :O
Yep. NX news on 1st of January or bust.
Azure Dream
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Panajev2001a
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We will see if they start a new generation and thus developers put it in the Xbox Two / PS 5 performance bracket or if they target it in the same performance bracket as Xbox One and PS4 like they targeted Wii U as being in PS360's performance one, but last time they launched 8 years after their competition and released something that was somewhat faster and somewhat slower than the PS360 generation and nowhere near Xbox One and PS4.
i think if they proceed with nx as i think they will, generations as we've come to know them will effectively become meaningless.
Ninja Scooter
Member
If Nintendo really do launch a home console at $350 next year they might as well start digging a grave for it right next to the Wii U.