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CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Retroid (7)
roytheone .2622
Lone_Prodigy .2656
MagnumBoy20xx .2657 .2716
TheWorthyEdge .2748
Kalor .2760
Kawl_USC .2857
Enker .2883
flatearthpandas .2887
Lord of Castamere .2889 .2894

Bananaspaceprincess (3)
MagnumBoy20xx .2878
Flame_AC .2880
Retroid .2885

TheAwesomePossum (3)
Christina Mackenzie .2893
Lord of Castamere .2894
Matt Attack .2895

Christina Mackenzie (2)
Crab .2835
Blargonaut .2842

Crab (1)
Bananaspaceprincess .2888

Gorlak (1)
TheExodu5 .2542
Blargonaut .2646 .2721
Retroid .2805 .2849
Blargonaut .2808 .2842

Lone_Prodigy (1)
Gorlak .2619 .2685
Gorlak .2709

Matt Attack (0)
MagnumBoy20xx .2716 .2878

MagnumBoy20xx (0)
Kalor .2700 .2760

TheWorthyEdge (0)
Retroid .2729 .2805


No active vote for Day 4:
Rynam
TheAwesomePossum
TheGoddamn



Day 4 ends:

 

[Christina Mackenzie]

This is why I think most of the day has been wasted. There are tonne of scum coasting because they know that town are barking up the wrong tree, so why derail it? I'm also weirded out by how quickly Christina went from being a serious fos to suddenly everyone jumping her wagon.

I wouldn't call 2 people everyone. Would you care to comment on my reasoning?

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I'm also weirded out by how quickly Christina went from being a serious fos to suddenly everyone jumping her wagon.

I see it as a win/win. The reasoning given is sound and if TAP flips town we can return to her tomorrow.

IMO all of the mid-card players kind of clump together right now. That's not gonna stop until we thin that group out. Her reasoning is the best I've seen so far. At least she's providing something more than "activity" alone.

 

[roytheone]

Just about to head off for work, please don't turbo me, I promise to be on again briefly later to at least reveal my actions during the night.

Just FYI: I will need to prepare to go to work in about 2 hours, and then I will no longer be able to be present in the thread and change my vote. So if you want to tell us something that could convince me to take my vote off you, you still have 2 hours or so to do that.

Joining the bandwagon last time got me in trouble so I'm going with my own hunch today.

VOTE: TheAwesomePossum

kingkitty needed to be found by his fellow Death Eaters in order regain his powers.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186500645&postcount=1558

His first vote on Day 1 was TheAwesomePossum.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185335076&postcount=251

Towards the end, he hints with the words "lucky buddies" and "lost partner" as if to suggest he can be recruited.

His second and final vote on Day 1 was Hyperactivity, confirmed Death Eater.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185500934&postcount=361

Here he's nowhere near as subtle as before.

I don't recall TheAwesomePossum doing much for the past day. If you're looking for Death Eaters even they know not to hover too near to the bottom of the post counts.

This is an interesting theory and defiantly a reason to keep a close eye on Possum, but I don't think this alone is enough to warrant a vote on him. Being a lost partner is hard since you have to signal your role to your team, but you can also not be too obvious since then you will take your whole team with you if you get outed, so it is hard to speculate what Kitty's plan was during D1. Still, it is a strike against him, and he also had that weird idea yesterday about switching TWE instead of blarg, so he is in my suspects list.

 

[TheExodu5]

Sorry, I've been out for a few days. I'll try to catch up this morning. I have no clue where things are at the moment.

 

[Flame_AC]

Sorry, I've been out for a few days. I'll try to catch up this morning. I have no clue where things are at the moment.

It's basically a choice between BananaSpacePrincess, Christina Mackenzie, Retroid, or TheAwesomePossum.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Unvote

Crab you started the Christina vote.

Retroid just seems too passive. 8 votes and he does nothing. I think it's just his play style.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Unvote

Crab you started the Christina vote.

Retroid just seems too passive. 8 votes and he does nothing. I think it's just his play style.

I meant the wagon she started, rather than the wagon on her.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I meant the wagon she started, rather than the wagon on her.

Isn't a wagon supposed to carry alot of people? Like the Hyper rush yesterday, and my rush yesterday. Those were wagons. 2 votes is something... but not a wagon. Weird terminology.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Isn't a wagon supposed to carry alot of people? Like the Hyper rush yesterday, and my rush yesterday. Those were wagons. 2 votes is something... but not a wagon. Weird terminology.

It was more how someone who was being put under suspicion throws out a vote despite not really having contributed much before and that vote not having been brought up as a suggestion before, and then suddenly the next two posts are total conversions to the cause.

 

[Christina Mackenzie]

It was more how someone who was being put under suspicion throws out a vote despite not really having contributed much before and that vote not having been brought up as a suggestion before, and then suddenly the next two posts are total conversions to the cause.

So you're implying Matt and I are Death Eaters? Maybe, since we've never spoken to each other before in the thread.

Looking back, I think the person I've had the most interaction with in this thread was Hyperactivity. His suggestion to me about a Bella role claim was amusing since that was his actual role. Never would have suspected it.

I see Lone_Prodigy has taken his vote off Retroid. I don't think BSP is necessarily a Death Eater either. I think you're all looking at the wrong place.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

It was more how someone who was being put under suspicion throws out a vote despite not really having contributed much before and that vote not having been brought up as a suggestion before, and then suddenly the next two posts are total conversions to the cause.

She has 2 votes though... It's not like Retroid did it or something.

If CM is scum, why would other scum out themselves in such a way when suspicion is so low? If Retroid is scum, why not jump on an existing bandwagon? Doesn't make sense.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

She has 2 votes though... It's not like Retroid did it or something.

If CM is scum, why would other scum out themselves in such a way when suspicion is so low? If Retroid is scum, why not jump on an existing bandwagon? Doesn't make sense.

No, that's true. I'm just a little jumpy because we have 2 hours left and no clear plan.

 

[Kawl_USC]

She has 2 votes though... It's not like Retroid did it or something.

If CM is scum, why would other scum out themselves in such a way when suspicion is so low? If Retroid is scum, why not jump on an existing bandwagon? Doesn't make sense.

Given how yesterday ended and how readily everyone changed their votes it wouldn't be out of question for scum to hold off from bussing. It could be a case of finding someone that scum felt they could build a reasonable case on over Retroid. But that would be suggesting both CM and Retroid are scum which I would find heavy handed. Keep in mind that scum have lost 2 members over 3 day/night cycles so far. They might be getting a little short of members to still be committed to bussing.

Posts saying well activity is pretty low, I think that hints at us barking up the wrong tree strikes me as kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Kawl_USC]

I think those three posts were most likely just a decent actual thought out post on a slower day that people liked and figured what the hell that sounds better/most recent.

 

[TheExodu5]

I don't feel that strongly about Retroid. I still don't understand the bandwagon being formed there. I would still rather lynch Gorlak, but since that's not picking up any traction, I'm left with BSP or CM.

Magnum raises some warranted suspicion with regards to BSP, but her reply seems genuine to me.

CM on the other hand is really grasping at straws with TheAwesomePossum theory. Seems desperate to me.

Vote: Christina Mackenzie

 

[TheExodu5]

I'm also bothered by something. We have 2 role claimed investigators and we have almost no information about anyone.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I'm also bothered by something. We have 2 role claimed investigators and we have almost no information about anyone.

Blarg investigated kingkitty, then destroyed ring, then protected someone. kingkitty is now dead, so nothing there. I investigated Swamped, Lord of Castamere, and Enker. Swamped is dead, so nothing there, LoC role-claimed, so not new information, so only the Enker information helped. Seems more bad luck than anything so far, although I'm very frustrated Blarg chose to protect last night.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I'm also bothered by something. We have 2 role claimed investigators and we have almost no information about anyone.

To be fair, Blarg has like 80 different abilities he can use at night. He can't be bothered with trivial shit. He's Albus FUCKING Dumbledore.

Spoiler

Too bad one of his abilities isn't to not killed by Snape.

 

[Kalor]

Christina's theory about TAP seems plausible but I don't know if I'm willing to lynch them today for it. I feel more confident lynching Retroid today but not by much.

 

[Kawl_USC]

Less than an hour remaining. Unless Retroid comes back with something monumental things look pretty quiet/locked in.

 

[Gorlak]

Lecture ended early, yay! Now I'll be able to catch up!

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Lecture ended early, yay! Now I'll be able to catch up!

Let me give you a summary of what happened today:

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That was the summary.

 

[TheExodu5]

Less than an hour remaining. Unless Retroid comes back with something monumental things look pretty quiet/locked in.

It's going to end the same as the last day. There's going to be a mad rush to lynch someone and that person will be gone and won't have a chance to defend themselves. And we might not get lucky like we did with Hyper.

 

[Kawl_USC]

It's going to end the same as the last day. There's going to be a mad rush to lynch someone and that person will be gone and won't have a chance to defend themselves. And we might not get lucky like we did with Hyper.

Well I would be a bit surprised for another cop to come out and reveal themselves to save Retroid at the last moment, so idk about such an organized last minute switch today.

 

[Flame_AC]

So no one wants to go for BSP it seems like?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

VOTE: TheAwesomePossum

He's not part of the Scummy Six so I think he's part of the AFK crew (can't find the voting script link at the moment, it really should be stickied to the OP).

I find BSP less scummy since she stuck to her guns and voted Crab while still under suspicion.

I've come around on Christina and don't find him as suspicious.

 

[Gorlak]

... Retroid announced a late explanation for his actions to ensue last hour vote madness? Sounds like a policy lynch to me. His affiliation with TWE is striking.

I was really surprised that Blarg indeed asked him to hold onto the ring. Blarg is gonna Blarg... not investigating was really stupid as well. But nevertheless thank you for this very helpful summary post Blarg. But we still miss TWE' saction last night, I doubt he would do nothing.

BSP and CM are suspicious because of their activity level? I have to agree with that but prior to today nobody had a problem with that?

The kingkitty posts are very interesting, he clearly signaled Hyper he was V.
a) he showed Possum he is a lost partner as well
b) he left a fake trail for town

Somehow I doubt he'd signal to more than one scum what he is.

At the moment I'm going with Retroid because he wants to announce something last minute to save himself.

Vote: Retroid

 

[Retroid]

Just caught up and got a chance to come on. I did not give a last minute reason to save myself, my day actions were explained with plenty of time.

 

[Gorlak]

Just caught up and got a chance to come on. I did not give a last minute reason to save myself, my day actions were explained with plenty of time.

Just about to head off for work, please don't turbo me, I promise to be on again briefly later to at least reveal my actions during the night.

.

 

[Retroid]

I'm not revealing my role, I will reveal who I targeted with my PR so that you can discuss it in the future.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Retroid, you have less than 40 minutes left and 8(?) votes on you. Revealing you role is really not a bad idea this point if you want even a moderate chance of living.

 

[Kawl_USC]

... Retroid announced a late explanation for his actions to ensue last hour vote madness? Sounds like a policy lynch to me. His affiliation with TWE is striking.

I was really surprised that Blarg indeed asked him to hold onto the ring. Blarg is gonna Blarg... not investigating was really stupid as well. But nevertheless thank you for this very helpful summary post Blarg. But we still miss TWE' saction last night, I doubt he would do nothing.

BSP and CM are suspicious because of their activity level? I have to agree with that but prior to today nobody had a problem with that?

The kingkitty posts are very interesting, he clearly signaled Hyper he was V.
a) he showed Possum he is a lost partner as well
b) he left a fake trail for town

Somehow I doubt he'd signal to more than one scum what he is.

At the moment I'm going with Retroid because he wants to announce something last minute to save himself.

Vote: Retroid

TWE has previously claimed that he can only Sell once he obtains an item. He can't steal and hold multiple items as once. Blarg asked him to hold on, so if he was telling the truth earlier it means he did not have a night action. Whether you believe that or not, depends on how trustworthy you've found him.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

http://rfnx.ddns.net/mafia/1138841.html#HTML4

Voting script.

TheAwesomePossum had no vote on D3. D1 he voted Rats (yawn). D2 he voted KK (expected).

 

[Retroid]

Ok, when I was blocked I was targeting Miracle, at the time I thought he was scummy and the previous player claimed they were basic town.

I am in the group of people that know about the horcrux win condition. I don't know the names of the other players that know the win condition as well, but I do know what their characters are.

 

[Kawl_USC]

Can you elaborate on some of those details? That's a pretty bare bones claim that could easily be faked.

 

[Kawl_USC]

About the win condition. Not character names.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

VOTE: Retroid

Details and you live, vagueries and you die.

 

[Retroid]

Also, the horcrux win condition is worded in a way that might mean it does not apply to all of town. I do have the regular win condition. I asked for clarification on this from nin last night but haven't received a reply yet.

The win condition says, you also, not hogwarts also...

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Also, the horcrux win condition is worded in a way that might mean it does not apply to all of town. I do have the regular win condition. I asked for clarification on this from nin last night but haven't received a reply yet.

The win condition says, you also, not hogwarts also...

Is that why Blarg has been so cagey with details? Are you guys partial neutrals?

 

[Kalor]

Blarg mentioned Voldemort was included in the win condition earlier, I take it that is the same for you?

 

[Gorlak]

A wild guess as you mentioned something about a trio:

You are one of Harry, Ron and Hermoine. They have the task to destroy the horcruxes, Blarg also wins if they are destroyed, but Hogwarts will still have to face the Death Eaters?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Okay I'm going to reveal this theory I have. Unfortunately it will expose someone to scum (if they haven't picked up on it already) but they have enough targets on their plate anyway.

Remember Gorlak being blocked N3 when trying to block Christina? Something about Expelliarmus?

And then remember how he thought I had a passive roleblock (proven wrong by Retroid also getting Dementor'ed)?

What if Expelliarmus is the passive roleblock?

Whose signature move is Expelliarmus?

What if Christina Mackenzie is Harry Potter???

Vote With Christina for TheAwesomePossum

If I'm wrong and Christina is scum (she was part of my Sinister Six after all) then... oops. If I'm right and Christina dies, then... oops.

 

[Retroid]

I was also told in my role pm that if I found Voldemort, something bad could happen. I interpretted that as meaning once he is killed. This is why I was hesitant to kill him, and it is why I believed Blarg right when he revealed the Horcrux info. It is also why I didnt reveal I was roleblocked right away. I thought it was a consequence of us killing Voldemort. I wanted to make sure it was a real roleblock and I was going to hold off on sharing the info until the next day, but I ended up in the line of fire.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

A wild guess as you mentioned something about a trio:

You are one of Harry, Ron and Hermoine. They have the task to destroy the horcruxes, Blarg also wins if they are destroyed, but Hogwarts will still have to face the Death Eaters?

Just as a heads up: don't guess at the role of people dangling role claims. it's very easy for them to go "yes, that was it all along!" when really they hadn't thought of anything convincing and were just latching on to the lifeline people threw out for them. You're a neutral so you don't really have to listen to me, but a heads up for others.

 

[Kalor]

Vote: TheAwesomePossum

I believe Retroid for now as he seems to be telling the truth and want to have my vote on someone. He's too calm if he is scum.

 

[Retroid]

I have no idea how Christina is alligned, my town read on him is just my own, no insider info. Take that read lightly. I just got a vibe he was part of our group.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

It's only 8-5 Retroid to TheAwesomePossum. Not too late to switch.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Wait 7-5. Kalor unvoted.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I'm not switching until I get details. A vague roleclaim with 15 minutes to go is meaningless.