Finaika
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PS4 is a beast too.
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PS VR has the strongest games lineup according to GameStop CEO
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PS4 is a beast too.
biglittleps
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OR requires to render two screen at higher resolution and framerate than PS VR which has only one screen, lower resolution and framerate along with no driver overhead like PC, so PS VR will be very close to 970 level experience which has been even confirmed by a developer (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191371794&postcount=47) who is working on VR.
As crazy as it sounds, resolution and framerate are very important for VR(framerate especially). As it is FOV, too. It can't be "close to 970" level, because it simply isn't. If someone makes a PC headset with the PSVR specs, a 970 won't be needed for it. If you actually read the post you linked to, you will notice the exact caveats I already talked about.
Yes, I'm sure both HTC/Valve and Oculus decided to use dual-screens, a higher resolution, and a target of 90 fps for a trivial upgrade in experience, and all the while requiring significantly higher specs to move it. /s
maverick40
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Still wairing for dat No man's Sky VR announcement Sony
Get_craycray
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By the way, isn't there a thread with all confirmed games/demos for the PS VR? I think I saw one some time ago but can't manage to find it.
biglittleps
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Who will buy and make that inferior headset in PC when they have better ones out there ? Also developer needs to optimize the games for it which is not going to happen like PS VR.
Read this about PS VR by a VR developer : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191371794&postcount=47
I think you will be genuinely surprised by PSVR.
As long as you're hitting the target frame-rate, the quality of the visuals matters less in VR at the moment. Presence can be achieved with very lo-fi visuals. Despite that, we're still seeing some surprisingly high quality looking games in development for PSVR. Expect a visual experience not unlike that of the Rift DK2 (though the PSVR supports higher refresh rates). It's not going to be as immersive as the competition but it's more than adequate and will offer an experience that works out of the box without issue.
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Also, who will buy(people who have less budget?) and make(http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1169019&highlight=low+cost+vr)?
biglittleps
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Opinions from CES are quite different. While not being bad, PSVR is a subpar experience compared to Rift and Vive.
http://www.gizmag.com/playstation-vr-review-hands-on-2016/41286/
Get_craycray
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Thank you, I'll add it to the OP.
proshaw713
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aren't ps vr games, the only ones likely to be sold in store?
That and the headset itself. Gamestop isn't going to carry Vives and Rifts, but it is going to carry PSVRs
PhantomVash808
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GameStop has a team in Hawaii right now attending a sales meeting where Sony may divulge more information.
Quick if somebody can figure out where the meeting is I'll risk sneaking in.
Quick if somebody can figure out where the meeting is I'll risk sneaking in.
Bananajama
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First gen I don't want/need the best VR experience.
As 2nd gen VR Devices are going to be (in my personal view with no merit what so ever) far superior to what we see now in tech and games.
With hardware requirements hopefully being cheaper for the box too.
So for a 'casual' if thats what you can call me.
The PS VR will do just fine for now over the OR/Vive for me
Saying that - I'm not sure I'll even be buying at launch! Need more info!
As 2nd gen VR Devices are going to be (in my personal view with no merit what so ever) far superior to what we see now in tech and games.
With hardware requirements hopefully being cheaper for the box too.
So for a 'casual' if thats what you can call me.
The PS VR will do just fine for now over the OR/Vive for me
Saying that - I'm not sure I'll even be buying at launch! Need more info!
travisbickle
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People don't think there'll be Oculus/Vive headsets on sale in game stores?
The first generation ones, on game stores specifically? I find it unlikely.
Memorabilia
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Echoes my thoughts. If I jump in Gen 1 it'll be PSVR. Gen 2 I'll keep an open mind.
FloorEssence
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I agree. PS VR is a beast and I can't wait to try it out and experience VR for the first time. Now just give us a good price point.
Jesus man. I own all the consoles and enjoy em for what they are. But saying that the PS4 is a beast is just hilarious.
Are people just fanboys or delusional. Or mabye both?
demigod
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$599 oculus rift at retail where they won't make money from any sales? Who the hell will stock that? Gamestop won't stock Vive, maybe Fry's and Newegg but limited quantities.
Ps4 is a beast of a console!
Super Wario
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My thoughts exactly.
JetSetRadio
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Well it has like 3 or 4 games I'm interested in at the moment, can't say that about the competition.
First post nails it like the last one in the bricks and mortar coffin.
Alx
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What people don't realize is that acting like silly fanboys to mock them or being a genuine one result in the exact same annoying messages.
Fortunately the ignore list works for both too.
Calm down, take a few breaths.
It's funny that when Palmer says anything, we believe him. Then it's not a company man justifying company decisions and pimping his product.
Air Zombie Meat
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I get the point you're trying to make but I've never done such a thing. Please don't include me in the tribalism that plagues all VR threads these days.
Possumowner
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Having seen what I've seen so far on PS VR,there's only a handful of games I'm interested in,having said that,that also goes for the other two main VR systems.
I'm still waiting for that title to make me jump in on launch day.Well basically I'm waiting for Knack VR,then my life is complete
I'm still waiting for that title to make me jump in on launch day.Well basically I'm waiting for Knack VR,then my life is complete
Sony, despite having a significantly weaker platform, has plenty of advantages. Barring an outrageous initial price, I think it will do well.
The digital foundry articles comparing Vive/Oculus to PSVR will be glorious, though. There should be a gigantic graphical difference between what PS4 can do and what a maxed out custom rig can do for titles like EVE.
The digital foundry articles comparing Vive/Oculus to PSVR will be glorious, though. There should be a gigantic graphical difference between what PS4 can do and what a maxed out custom rig can do for titles like EVE.
Bragging that PC VR has tons of content probably obfuscates that half of it is probably shovelware, poorly made, demo level at best software that suffers glitches and all sorts of issues. The stuff that makes the Rift store or indeed PSVR will be certified to actually be of a certain quality and something worth playing. Sure playing around with esoteric tech demos or whatever will be nice on PC but it doesn't mean it will offer a remotely good experience, and quality of experience is vital with VR or it could literally make you vomit 
FalsettoVibe
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When is the darn thing releasing? I don't h ink Sony needs to wait too long after Oculus. That may not be best.
That's fine. But Sony, Oculus and HTC are not the only players in the market. If the high price for the premium HMDs, and alternatively lesser specs is an argument, then other HMDs should also be a part of the discussion. Like f.ex. "OSVR" from Razer, a 1080p HMD and will be sold for $299.
Sidewinder
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A GAF spy, how cool would that be? I need to know the price damnit!!
This pretty much.
EatChildren
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Well, you know, the target seems to be different. PSVR is a dedicated peripheral for closed architecture with a limited ceiling and dedicated software environment. As a device it requires specific content to see Coalville l viability in the market. This is surely Sony's goal.
Oculus and Vive need this too. VR needs specific software to sell. But PC being an open platform invites in possibility of your peripheral being somewhat compatible with software reaching as far back as custom user configs and hacks are willing to go.
So it's not hard to believe Sony have a wider breadth of VR specific games in pipes, meanwhile Oculus/Vive will benefit from legacy support.
Oculus and Vive need this too. VR needs specific software to sell. But PC being an open platform invites in possibility of your peripheral being somewhat compatible with software reaching as far back as custom user configs and hacks are willing to go.
So it's not hard to believe Sony have a wider breadth of VR specific games in pipes, meanwhile Oculus/Vive will benefit from legacy support.
Bragging that PC VR has tons of content probably obfuscates that half of it is probably shovelware, poorly made, demo level at best software that suffers glitches and all sorts of issues. The stuff that makes the Rift store or indeed PSVR will be certified to actually be of a certain quality and something worth playing. Sure playing around with esoteric tech demos or whatever will be nice on PC but it doesn't mean it will offer a remotely good experience, and quality of experience is vital with VR or it could literally make you vomit
Yes, there was never a broken game or bad game on Playstation. Never.
SensibleSucker
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He did say strongest count, not strongest line up. Basically, he said Sony has the most games. Not the best.
I do think that PSVR is likely to get the best start out of the gate of all offerings. The attach rate is going to be pretty high as I think many PS4 owners will be reassured that their fixed spec machine will effectively work fine for the VR accessory throughout it's lifetime.
I do think that PSVR is likely to get the best start out of the gate of all offerings. The attach rate is going to be pretty high as I think many PS4 owners will be reassured that their fixed spec machine will effectively work fine for the VR accessory throughout it's lifetime.
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