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New Shenmue 3 Prototype Screenshot

TLZ

TLZ

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Don't even know why anyone's expecting great current graphics considering the budget's incredibly low.

If they pull it off, that'll be insane.
 
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Tricky I Shadow

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TLZ said:
Don't even know why anyone's expecting great current graphics considering the budget's incredibly low.

If they pull it off, that'll be insane.
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It's a miracle it looks even this good, at this early no less! I must have had low expectations, because these screenshots look amazing to me.
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I think it looks pretty good. There are obvious details missing if this were like, a ND game, but it's not...I think it looks nice and I can't wait to explore.
 
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FLAguy954

Junior Member
Respawn said:
Looks better than most games this gen. Yu Suzuki I'm going home.
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You must be joking?

I am unimpressed with these screens. They should o picked better ones imo.

Tricky I Shadow said:
Ugh, this thread is pretty frustrating and disappointing to read through. I expect better from you GAF.
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I understand your frustration (especially that comment about 'Dreamcast" graphics) but those screen don't look good to me at all (tech and art-wise). Shenmue 3 existing does not exclude it from criticism.
 
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Spaghetti

Member
FLAguy954 said:
I understand your frustration (especially that comment about 'Dreamcast" graphics) but those screen don't look good to me at all (tech and art-wise). Shenmue 3 existing does not exclude it from criticism.
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I think the frustration is from drive-by shitposts. Even the overly excited posts like the one you quoted are better than constant poisonous "fuck this thing you like" chatter.

Personally I'm just disappointed some people aren't looking past the graphics to remember how promising it could be once finished.

You can already see the start of the atmosphere of the world taking shape in these pictures. The first gives a decent view of the fishing hole on the outskirts of this quaint rural Chinese village in the mountains, the second showing the fog rolling in as the sun starts to dip, and the third one after dark as the village is barely lit by ramshackle lamps run off a generator. I'm not crazy in saying the images at least give an early snapshot of the atmosphere they're aiming for in this area. It's easily giving the same digital tourism vibes the first two games had in spades.
 
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FLAguy954

Junior Member
Spaghetti said:
I think the frustration is from drive-by shitposts. Even the overly excited posts like the one you quoted are better than constant poisonous "fuck this thing you like" chatter.

Personally I'm just disappointed some people aren't looking past the graphics to remember how promising it could be once finished.

You can already see the start of the atmosphere of the world taking shape in these pictures. The first gives a decent view of the fishing hole on the outskirts of this quaint rural Chinese village in the mountains, the second showing the fog rolling in as the sun starts to dip, and the third one after dark as the village is barely lit by ramshackle lamps run off a generator. I'm not crazy in saying the images at least give an early snapshot of the atmosphere they're aiming for in this area. It's easily giving the same digital tourism vibes the first two games had in spades.
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I understand your point about the atmosphere. It is just with so many games out there, especially Kickstarter, people expect visually pleasing screens of the product, even in prototype.
 
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Vulcano's assistant

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Tricky I Shadow said:
It's a miracle it looks even this good, at this early no less! I must have had low expectations, because these screenshots look amazing to me.
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One of the best things about how gaming engines like Unity 5, Cryengine, and UE4 are licensed now is that we can have games with indie budgets that share the horsepower of AAA titles. So we have, for instance, Kingdom Come Deliverance and Everybody's Gone to the Rapture looking as good as Ryse in various areas.
 
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Spaghetti

Member
FLAguy954 said:
I understand your point about the atmosphere. It is just with so many games out there, especially Kickstarter, people expect visually pleasing screens of the product, even in prototype.
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Considering the game only got Kickstarted last July and the prototype only started getting built around September/October, you'd think people would adjust their expectations accordingly, but I dunno. Its just symptomatic of continued misunderstanding about how development works.

Even though the graphics aren't done or the art direction fully implemented, most of us can at least appreciate a 'look' is being constructed.
 
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z3phon

Member
I agree these screenshots look bad but keep in mind they have almost 2 years to work on the game and delays are always a possibility.
So many people complain about the secrecy in the gaming industry and this is exactly why, most people seem to have no real understanding of game production and make such early judgments on things no where close to being shipped.

And I am saying this as someone who has a bad feeling about the game. I don't have much confidence in the game but I'm hoping to be proven wrong.
 
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Tricky I Shadow

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FLAguy954 said:
I understand your frustration (especially that comment about 'Dreamcast" graphics) but those screen don't look good to me at all (tech and art-wise). Shenmue 3 existing does not exclude it from criticism.
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People are judging this (most of them I can guarantee don't even give a shit about the game but feel like they need to put in their 2 cents) in here as if it had the budget of a AAA game and was coming out in a few months time. Under the circumstances the screenshots look great, and above all else, show immense promise. Some people in here really need some perspective.

Hell, even if this did have the budget of a AAA game I'd still say the screenshots are pretty impressive. Then again I'd more than likely be impressed if it had Dreamcast graphics. That's what happens when you're starved for 14 years!
 
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PdotMichael

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Spaghetti said:
What part of my position seems extreme to you? It's about as middle of the road as you can get. For the most part I'm only asking people use their head in thinking a little harder about what a prototype is supposed to be and look past just graphics to see the promise in these screens.

Why would they release screens in this state? Well, are you unfamiliar with Kickstarter? Part of the Kickstarter experience is following the development of the game, and its already been said that KS games work outside the traditional PR cycle. Disappearing for a year and a half and only returning with near final materials isn't going to win any favours either.

Are you under the impression these screens were meant to win anybody over? This is a "here is our progress" display not a marketing campaign.
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Talking about that the only alternative are PR people who release bullshots is pretty extreme, yes.

And there are also better ways of showcasing progress than releasing subpar screenshots of an unfinished build - several Kickstarter projects did it in the past. There is no reason to get defensive about it.
 
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Cave Johnson

Member
Anybody who backs up Shenmue thinking it would have the graphics like these:


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Should have their heads examined.

Vulcano's assistant said:
One of the best things about how gaming engines like Unity 5, Cryengine, and UE4 are licensed now is that we can have games with indie budgets that share the horsepower of AAA titles. So we have, for instance, Kingdom Come Deliverance and Everybody's Gone to the Rapture looking as good as Ryse in various areas.
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I'm pretty sure these games do no not have "indie" budgets.
 
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Jack The Nipper

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Shadoken said:
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Man Street Fighter 4 is such an ugly game. Looks fan made or something. I think it will be a big let down.

SMH .... Some people dont understand what prototypes mean , this game literally just started development last year.



Thats right , no amount of hatorade about Graphics or Kickstarter scamming people is going to affect that. As long as the gameplay and story is there its all good.
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I hope shenmue will atleast retain it's art style while atleast besting Yakuza of last gen.

As long as it's crisp with nice textures.

But street fighter 4 is still an ugly game to me


Sorry but I don't know the guy.

I don't really understand all the hate on the game. That's worry some and doesn't bold well for it..
 
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Tagg9

Member
Looks really good to me. This is potentially going to be a very large game, so I'd rather they focus on a large number of environments and gameplay as opposed to graphical fidelity.
 
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Atomski

Member
don't get why people are expecting some graphic power house of this game..


They should have just stuck with the originals graphics.. Would have loved to see the reactions on that.
enigmatic_alex44 said:
Looks gorgeous, but HOW are they expecting people to jump into this game if they never played the first 2? It's very story dependent.

Shenmue 1 is on a dead system and 2 was released on the original Xbox so many people with current consoles missed out.
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If they do a shenmue HD before this game I bet the hype for the 3rd one will drop like a rock. They really don't stand up so well today.
 
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N.A

Banned
Looks fine to me for being so early. Lighting and shaders will likely be massively improved before release.

I'm glad they seem to capture the Shenmue atmosphere.
 
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Spaghetti

Member
PdotMichael said:
Talking about that the only alternative are PR people who release bullshots is pretty extreme, yes.

And there are also better ways of showcasing progress than releasing subpar screenshots of an unfinished build - several Kickstarter projects did it in the past. There is no reason to get defensive about it.
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But I never suggested that.

I just simply understand why bullshots were such a big thing last gen (and occasionally this gen), and that it is refreshing that in the last few years we've had greater access behind the curtain of game development. It is not controversial to say consumers will sometimes act negatively to this because the only process of development they've been allowed to see for the last decade or more is highly managed, and sometimes outright misrepresentation (see terms Alpha and Beta losing absolutely all meaning).

If you were at all interested in actually reading what I'm saying, you'd know I'm not being defensive, I'm being a realist. Other Kickstarter projects aren't Shenmue 3, and frankly there are no reasonable comparisons to be made because no other successfully crowdfunded game has this particular level of scope. There's no template to follow here, and you have no idea what else could have been shown in place, so don't please pretend like you do.
 
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Cave Johnson

Member
Jinkies said:
I would expect more than mid-tier PS3 quality from UE4. I will reserve my judgement, of course, until release.



Kingdom Come has $2.5m, which is roughly the same as Monument Valley.
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Isn't that a benchmark for the investors a-la Bloodstained? There's no way a game with that production value is at "2.5 million".
 
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Dictator93

Member
I wonder which version of UE4 they are using. If it is an olderrone (like I suspect), it would explain the lack of real time reflections on the waer and a couple other issues.

Looks fine for a WIP.
 
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Spaghetti

Member
Dictator93 said:
I wonder which version of UE4 they are using. If it is an olderrone (like I suspect), it would explain the lack of real time reflections on the waer and a couple other issues.

Looks fine for a WIP.
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If you licence the engine don't you get updates as they come?

I think the version they're using is post-kite demo, which if I recall had the reflections. In fact I think the reflections were in an earlier demo too.

Of course that's not discounting that these things are either turned off or not implemented yet.
 
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Dictator93

Member
Spaghetti said:
If you licence the engine don't you get updates as they come?

I think the version they're using is post-kite demo, which if I recall had the reflections. In fact I think the reflections were in an earlier demo too.

Of course that's not discounting that these things are either turned off or not implemented yet.
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You would still have to integrate the updates I imagine right? I am not sure how version changes affects game projects files in UE to be honest.

Oh, they had SSR on water in a previous demo? I wonder why it is off here then, perhaps it was running on a babby's first computer.
 
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joms5

Member
What are the chances we see an HD collection of the first two games before this releases?

I never played these back in the day and would love the opportunity to experience the first two games before this one comes out.

I know they're out there but I'm not willing to pay those kinds of prices.
 
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