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January Wrasslin' |OT| It's a New Year, Yes It Is!

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Browny

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Talking AJ etc. What is the last big debut that happened on PPV? I realise that they want the ratings boost by hyping up Raw etc, but the last one I can remember is Sting. Before that...

Kane at Bad Blood (no I'm not having a Kane day...), Booker T @ KOTR. Perhaps Bubba Ray at the Rumble, but that was more of a one-off appearance.
 

UberTag

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I'd be disappointed if Nakamura isn't pushed like a star, but I don't expect AJ to be pushed at all and I don't think he even cares that much. AJ has openly stated many times that he just wants to wrestle for whoever is going to give him the most money. He'll be booked like a star for about 3 weeks and then as soon as Vince sees how tall he is he's going to be tossed right into the 50/50 meat grinder with the rest of the roster.
How long until Vince accidentally refers to AJ as Jamie Noble?
 
Talking AJ etc. What is the last big debut that happened on PPV? I realise that they want the ratings boost by hyping up Raw etc, but the last one I can remember is Sting. Before that...

Kane at Bad Blood (no I'm not having a Kane day...), Booker T @ KOTR. Perhaps Bubba Ray at the Rumble, but that was more of a one-off appearance.

Big Show at ST Valentine's day massacre
 

jmdajr

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Starting thinking yesterday about ..The Anoaʻi Family Corporation taking over and running WWE.

Reigns as Champ. Rock as COO. Bring back fucking Haku as bodyguard.
Heck Rock can be on as much as Vince. Just here and there.

Anyhow..I think it be yuuuge. Just yuge. I'm telling ya.
 

UberTag

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Starting thinking yesterday about ..The Anoaʻi Family Corporation taking over and running WWE.

Reigns as Champ. Rock as COO. Bring back fucking Haku as bodyguard.
Heck Rock can be on as much as Vince. Just here and there.

Anyhow..I think it be yuuuge. Just yuge. I'm telling ya.
Rosey doesn't like being ignored from yuuuge ideas.

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jmdajr

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The biggest accomplishment for Rock is not the millions of dollars he's made, or movie hits.

It's his abs.

What other Samoan actually had GOOD abs.

Snuka????
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I can see it now:

  • AJ enters the Rumble and eliminates Ziggler
  • Next night on Raw Ziggler goes over AJ in a singles match
  • On Smackdown it's AJ+Titus vs Ziggler+Stardust with AJ+Titus going over
  • Raw will have the same match with the same spots and same result
  • Next week on Raw Ziggler interferes in an AJ vs Tyler Breeze match
  • Fast Lane AJ and Ziggler both get counted out
  • Next night on Raw is a #1 Contender Match for the Intercontinental title
  • AJ wins and we see Ambrose sitting down watching it on a TV as JBL screams "HE'S A LUNATIC MAGGLE LOOK AT HOW HE SITS!"

I don't think Ziggler and Stardust can be on a tag team together for copyright reasons.

The biggest accomplishment for Rock is not the millions of dollars he's made, or movie hits.

It's his abs.

What other Samoan actually had GOOD abs.

Snuka????

Superfly Snuka is Fijian. Also, the Rock is only half Samoan. He's not *actually* related to Roman Reigns.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Meltzer says Bryan was cleared by the third doctor.

Unless his name is Joseph Maroon it doesn't actually matter although I suppose they might say fuck it and throw him in the Rumble for a pop

Roman will throw him out and Vince will book his dream Bryan Sheamus squash match at mania.

And Sheamus actually kills bryan.

How could there be a more squashy match than Sheamus getting the title from him in 18 seconds and one move?
 

jmdajr

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I can't remember which Rumble from the mid 90s, but they had like so many guys I never even heard of.

Vince was just getting guys off the streets for Shawn to eliminate.
 
Royal Rumble |OT| Roman only has a 33 2/3rd chance of winning.


But still not the WWE's doctor?

How long have they been "waiting" on their carny ass doctor?

Several months?

Its clear as day they dont want him back in the ring no matter how healthy he is. D Bryan should see it and just ask for his release already and go make bank in Japan.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Royal Rumble 2016 |OT| Roman Wins LOL

Royal Rumble 2016 |OT| Spoiler: It's Booty

Royal Rumble 2016 |OT| Roman's Sleeping

Royal Rumble 2016 |OT| Now With Less Boos
 

Fox318

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Unless his name is Joseph Maroon it doesn't actually matter although I suppose they might say fuck it and throw him in the Rumble for a pop



How could there be a more squashy match than Sheamus getting the title from him in 18 seconds and one move?

a 20 minute beatdown where Bryan gets no offense in while Cole talks about how all of Bryan's fans are losers because look at sheamus's muscles
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
a 20 minute beatdown where Bryan gets no offense in while Cole talks about how all of Bryan's fans are losers because look at sheamus's muscles

Wasn't Cole's horrific heel turn started by him talking shit about Bryan? I wasn't watching much then.

If Bryan comes back he should turn heel so he can have an excuse to stop doing flippy crowd-pleasing shit that results in his brainscans looking like a plate of scrambled eggs
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think the funny thing is that most people would probably prefer to see Dean Ambrose in Reigns place but they're like the same guy other than JBL telling us Ambrose is different and crazy (despite him being arguably more of a squeaky clean babyface than Reigns) and at least Reigns improved at *something* in the last couple years.

Like, my wife asks me every week why Dean is over and the answer is "I don't know." Like, even I sort of like him but I can't really explain why other than he's the not-as-pushed-guy.
 

Barrage

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I know its just rumours and all signs are pointing to no, but having Rock/Brock just opens up the entire card so much.

You do Reigns/HHH (without the main event, and with some "Authority is dissolved" stip I think roman gets cheered), Lesnar/Wyatt or Strowman..the only issue is who Undertaker faces.

The biggest proof that the League of Nations has been booked poorly is that none of them are over enough to face the Undertaker.

So then you would have to do some weird matchups..Taker/Owens? Taker/Ambrose?
 

Cagey

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I think the funny thing is that most people would probably prefer to see Dean Ambrose in Reigns place but they're like the same guy other than JBL telling us Ambrose is different and crazy (despite him being arguably more of a squeaky clean babyface than Reigns) and at least Reigns improved at *something* in the last couple years.

Like, my wife asks me every week why Dean is over and the answer is "I don't know." Like, even I sort of like him but I can't really explain why other than he's the not-as-pushed-guy.

A combination of pre-Raw, indie to developmental "he's the next big thing no one's talking about" buzz and he reminds you of the Attitude Era. But the hype was far greater than his talent, and he's a lame version of what you liked about the Attitude Era.
 

Ithil

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I think the funny thing is that most people would probably prefer to see Dean Ambrose in Reigns place but they're like the same guy other than JBL telling us Ambrose is different and crazy (despite him being arguably more of a squeaky clean babyface than Reigns) and at least Reigns improved at *something* in the last couple years.

Like, my wife asks me every week why Dean is over and the answer is "I don't know." Like, even I sort of like him but I can't really explain why other than he's the not-as-pushed-guy.

He can actually talk for one. Though he of course gets no promo time.
 
Slept on it, and I'm still incredibly amused by how hard and deep Gary Hart buried Jerry Jarrett in his book:

Gary Hart said:
The Welch’s, the Fuller’s, the Golden’s, the Jarrett’s, and the Field’s are the big wrestling families in Tennessee – and they’re all intertwined with each other in a mind-boggling Hatfield and McCoy-like fashion. Roy Welch got involved in the wrestling business with his brothers, Jack, Herb, and Lester, and eventually attained a position where he ran Tennessee wrestling. Their sister Bonnie married a referee named Virgil “Speedy” Hatfield, and their sons wrestled under the names of Lee, Don, and Bobby Fields. Roy’s son Buddy Fuller – who failed in Australia with him – had two wrestling sons named Ron and Robert Fuller. Roy’s daughter Ruby married a man named Bill Golden, and they had a son who wrestled as Jimmy Golden. If you recall, Jimmy was the one who had the bad acid trip in Australia. Now, if the rumors about Jerry Jarrett are true, then that would make Buddy Fuller and Jerry brothers, and Jerry’s son Jeff Jarrett and Buddy’s sons, Ron and Robert Fuller, and Ruby’s son, Jimmy Golden – cousins. Confusing, isn’t it? You need a scorecard just to keep track of them all. Not only that, but it sounds like a bunch of inbred hillbillies, if you ask me. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying they’re like the backwoods people in “Deliverance”…but they’re awfully close.

I had no respect for Jerry Jarrett or his “knowledge” of wrestling, and wasn’t about to let him tell me who I could or couldn’t manage. Besides, I had just done one hell of a favor for his hillbilly kin in Australia, and the least he could do was show me just an ounce of gratitude.

At that point, Jerry Jarrett went on this campaign against me, painting me as a “spy.” He insisted to anyone who would listen that I “secretly worked for Ann Gunkel,” and was only working for Jim Barnett “to spy on Georgia Championship Wrestling.” Fortunately, Jim Barnett knew me and was confident that I would never be involved with anything like that. Jim never even pulled me aside or questioned me about it, because he knew I was totally loyal to him. Jerry continued his crusade, though, and at one point accused me of giving “secrets” to the opposition! Believe me when I tell you there were no “secrets” Jerry Jarrett had that anybody would want. What would Ann Gunkel’s group have stolen, anyways – a shave-a-woman’s-head-match?

Sometime later, I was standing in the hallway before a show, when Jerry Jarrett walked by. Without even looking at me, he barked, “I want to see you in the bathroom.”

I walked in, and Jerry started telling me that he was the boss, that I was going to fire The Samoans, and that I was going to stop hanging out with The Missouri Mauler and Brute Bernard. While he was lecturing me, he had a chain that he was swinging around his fingers, trying to intimidate me. He then added that if I didn’t do what he wanted, I would have to answer to him. The second he said that, I flipped. I grabbed him by the neck and began choking him. I pushed him into a stall, shoved him against the wall, and started bitch-slapping him across his face. I was in a rage as I told him, “The only reason you exist is because your mother talked Roy Welch into slipping her the sausage one night, and that’s how you popped out – you dirty, lowlife bastard!”

As I was putting my suit in my bag, Robert [Fuller] came over and menacingly said, “I don’t like the way you treated Jerry Jarrett last night.”

Remember – if the rumors are true – Jerry Jarrett would not only be Robert Fuller’s booker, but also his bastardized uncle. I told Robert that I simply treated Jerry the way he had tried to treat me. A few words were said back and forth, and then Robert sneered, “How would you like it if I kicked your ass while your boys are out of the room?”

I always carried a razor in my pocket, so I pulled it out and said, “Try it and I’ll cut your eyeballs out of your head.”

Robert turned grey and stammered, “I was just kidding!” “Well I’m not,” I said. “Now get out of this room.”

Just incredible.
 

Shadow780

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I think the funny thing is that most people would probably prefer to see Dean Ambrose in Reigns place but they're like the same guy other than JBL telling us Ambrose is different and crazy (despite him being arguably more of a squeaky clean babyface than Reigns) and at least Reigns improved at *something* in the last couple years.

Like, my wife asks me every week why Dean is over and the answer is "I don't know." Like, even I sort of like him but I can't really explain why other than he's the not-as-pushed-guy.

Dean is over with the IWC for many reasons, for me, he's the master of small package.
 

iMax

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fuuuuuuuuck

If the movie Concussion taught me anything, it's that Maroon is a hack fraud who does what's best for business. He won't clear Bryan if Vince tells him not to.

I don't really understand. Are people saying Maroon isn't clearing Bryan because of Vince? Because I don't see how Vince wouldn't want him cleared.
 

Sephzilla

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I think the funny thing is that most people would probably prefer to see Dean Ambrose in Reigns place but they're like the same guy other than JBL telling us Ambrose is different and crazy (despite him being arguably more of a squeaky clean babyface than Reigns) and at least Reigns improved at *something* in the last couple years.

Like, my wife asks me every week why Dean is over and the answer is "I don't know." Like, even I sort of like him but I can't really explain why other than he's the not-as-pushed-guy.

Ambrose can consistently cut a good promo and can alternate between being a more goofy fun character and a more serious character - two things that Roman has struggled greatly with. In terms of in-ring talent, yeah, there isn't much there to justify why Ambrose is over. Ambrose repeats the same spot(s) as much as Roman.

I don't really understand. Are people saying Maroon isn't clearing Bryan because of Vince? Because I don't see how Vince wouldn't want him cleared.

Because Bryan coming back would show everyone how not-over Roman is in comparison.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Like, you can't avoid getting your bell rung in wrestling, but you can stop doing all this flippy shit. I find it highly unlikely that Bryan restricting the flips and suicide dives would make him less over, but shit, he came back from a career-threatening injury and was doing suicide dives the first fucken night so you probably can't take the carny out of the man

Dean is over with the IWC for many reasons, for me, he's the master of small package.

I always assumed this was some kind of in-joke where the *real* joke is just some inane weed-conversation Ambrose and Renee had
 

UberTag

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fuuuuuuuuck

If the movie Concussion taught me anything, it's that Maroon is a hack fraud who does what's best for business. He won't clear Bryan if Vince tells him not to.
This is factually correct. Daniel Bryan could get cleared by 28 doctors (the same number of hacks that write RAW each week) and it wouldn't make a difference.

Dude's fucked. And has always BEEN fucked. Getting that B+ player treatment.
 
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Slept on it, and I'm still incredibly amused by how hard and deep Gary Hart buried Jerry Jarrett in his book:

Just incredible.

He's incredible. Gary Hart is not a man to be trifled with. I remember reading that, he had quite a bit of venom for that extensive family.
 

iMax

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Because Bryan coming back would show everyone how not-over Roman is in comparison.

He's already more over and he's not even here. Might as well capitalise on it and put him in a programme with someone else as a distraction. Hell, send him to NXT if he's pissed off about it. It's a net gain.
 
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