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Kotaku: Destiny 2 delayed beyond September launch, deciding on content to save for D2
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SmoothRunningGun
Member
Add mod tools so the community can build the content. Something like Far cry 4's editor.
Kor of Memory
Member
It's not, at all
Then it actually furthers my point.
Your'e comparing 1 PvE aspect of 1 game, to whatever all of the Division Beta has going on.
RadicalVelocity
Member
Their engine is largely quite good, but their tools for content creation specifically are fucked. They can't do it. Chris Butcher gave a talk about the new engine development and noted how they really needed to improve the content creation pipeline due to it not being up to par. As Jason uncovered, that was a massive understatement.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I just can't deal with the f2p style micro transactions.
The moment the game became about milking whales it's the moment it died to me.
The moment the game became about milking whales it's the moment it died to me.
cleveridea
Member
Personally I'd rather they just take their time and create a new game for only recent gen consoles (PS4/X1) preferably PC also but fix any talk of engine problems etc and have the CPU/GPU room for some more impressive locales and effects.
The team should play borderlands pre sequel to see what kind of weapons a future scifi game should have.
The team should play borderlands pre sequel to see what kind of weapons a future scifi game should have.
RealityPales
Member
The only consistency at Bungie is hand placement - front and center.
veloxStrix
Banned
I'm glad to see a Bungo game getting pushed back. It means all is well and normal on their end.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Except that none of it, whatsoever, has been pay to win. Even the level boosters aren't pay to win, they just cut out time needed to advance to the end-game.
LordOfChaos
Member
Deciding on how much content to cut out of D2 to sell a year later as the complete game.
I just wish everything from the original game in the sequel. Same planets, same zones. Just add new zones to the planets and add like 2 or 3.
My dream Destiny would leave last gen behind 'Remake' what was originally there for the first entry( with some modifications similar to Takenn-izing the zones to accoutn for the new story). So we'd have everything there, not necessarily the Strikes and Raids, hopefully they are, but if not they should revamp a few of them and add them or at least add asm uch content to account for two games worth of stirkes.
Hopefully they fix their engine so that those nightmare development rumors are do not come up again.
Other than that I hope for better graphics, new abilities, cool new weapons/weapon types / classes / races and the same amazing gunplay.
My dream Destiny would leave last gen behind 'Remake' what was originally there for the first entry( with some modifications similar to Takenn-izing the zones to accoutn for the new story). So we'd have everything there, not necessarily the Strikes and Raids, hopefully they are, but if not they should revamp a few of them and add them or at least add asm uch content to account for two games worth of stirkes.
Hopefully they fix their engine so that those nightmare development rumors are do not come up again.
Other than that I hope for better graphics, new abilities, cool new weapons/weapon types / classes / races and the same amazing gunplay.
TTK was a great expansion. The RAID was great (except the lag issues) and the light system was nice, however, now that I've done all the challenge modes, beat the RAID, got my characters to at least 317, I'm done. Not to mention after doing a decent amount of HM completes no helmet drops for any of my characters. The RNG is just annoying for completing the HM RAID and nothing decent is guaranteed to drop (last HM, I got a HM Cloak that was under my light level after an hour+ for my time).
I'm at the point where I'm done. I'll wait till the next content drop and pick it back up, but I'd rather visit /r/destinythegame or watch Twitch streamers (gathalion or BroMan) play while at work then actually log in and grind. Nightfall is a joke, Armsday is nice, the weekly updates are bathroom reading material and Xur, well, I have pretty much every exotic except those Timegated and the ps4 one. I got all 50 fragments and was expecting something awesome, but all we got was a shader.
The Division seems like a no brainer to pick up, I even finished AC Unity and Syndicate. I started playing the Witcher 3.
I really wish Bungo would announce new content for me to get excited about, but I guess we'll see down the road. I just wont get hyped up for their weekly updates.
I'm at the point where I'm done. I'll wait till the next content drop and pick it back up, but I'd rather visit /r/destinythegame or watch Twitch streamers (gathalion or BroMan) play while at work then actually log in and grind. Nightfall is a joke, Armsday is nice, the weekly updates are bathroom reading material and Xur, well, I have pretty much every exotic except those Timegated and the ps4 one. I got all 50 fragments and was expecting something awesome, but all we got was a shader.
The Division seems like a no brainer to pick up, I even finished AC Unity and Syndicate. I started playing the Witcher 3.
I really wish Bungo would announce new content for me to get excited about, but I guess we'll see down the road. I just wont get hyped up for their weekly updates.
Not super surprising, I guess? After Kotaku's last article, you could certainly peg Bungie as, well, more than a little incompetent when it comes to their technology, so they're just reaping their rewards here.
Though, you'd think, after having such a horrible experience the first time, they'd have done everything in their power to not end up clueless about how to proceed with this game. Anybody expecting Destiny 2, whatever it is, to be a massive improvement might wanna start dialing back their expectations.
Though, you'd think, after having such a horrible experience the first time, they'd have done everything in their power to not end up clueless about how to proceed with this game. Anybody expecting Destiny 2, whatever it is, to be a massive improvement might wanna start dialing back their expectations.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
The only consistency at Bungie is hand placement - front and center.
And the video game developer half assed casual jeans/dress shirt/coat look
Koutsoubas
Member
We are 400 hours deep in this game. Everything is said and done. The end is near...
Requesting backup with new Release! Shis is getting serious!!!
OVER!!!!!!!
Requesting backup with new Release! Shis is getting serious!!!
OVER!!!!!!!
Anyone would take 60fps and 4k but it is at a cost of other features like physics and environmental density.
hikarutilmitt
Member
To be fair, there are some questionable physics in the game already.
I know what you mean
It would definitely make the animation of the teleporting ogres that Bungie refuses to fix (because its not costing them money) more smooth.
I hear you brother. I played Destiny from teeth to gums and I just been burnt out. Not sure if two will revive this ol soul
Activision don't own Bungie or Destiny, so no.
It absolutely boggles my mind that this game is now being worked on by the 500+ employees at Bungie AND 100 people at High Moon Studio, and they seem completely incapable of doing anything to keep momentum going. Destiny is just dying on the vine.
Content creation is time-consuming and expensive, but yeesh. Why aren't there Level 40 versions of previous raids (and Prison of Elders)? Why isn't there a way to have custom-games in PVP? Why are they so slow at producing new weapons and armor? Have they even introduced any new gear since TTK's launch? Not counting time-locked stuff and updates of old exotics....
It seems like there's a ton of small, easy things that could be done to keep players excited and engaged, but they aren't even doing that.
I hope this Kotaku article lights a fire under their ass to make some decisions and tell us what exactly is planned for the game's future.
Content creation is time-consuming and expensive, but yeesh. Why aren't there Level 40 versions of previous raids (and Prison of Elders)? Why isn't there a way to have custom-games in PVP? Why are they so slow at producing new weapons and armor? Have they even introduced any new gear since TTK's launch? Not counting time-locked stuff and updates of old exotics....
It seems like there's a ton of small, easy things that could be done to keep players excited and engaged, but they aren't even doing that.
I hope this Kotaku article lights a fire under their ass to make some decisions and tell us what exactly is planned for the game's future.
Elginer
Member
God damn it
I had this image in my head that destiny was shaping up to be an evolved next gen halo type fps with vehicle combat and crazy ambitious levels.
Yeah in your dreams buddy.
Mine too.
Yeah, the only thing Activision has is an out clause after expansion pack 2 (the release after "Destiny 2") where they're allowed to drop their deal for any reason.
That said Destiny seems to be making a lot of money, so if things keep up, that's very unlikely.
Smokey_Run
Member
Everything has to work with the Crucible. I wish they'd just create weapons specifically for Crucible, switch to a loadout system instead of what they have now, and allow the team to get creative with their PvE weapons.
After what was once called Comet 2.0? OK. Yeah, I doubt they would. But I'm sure they'll attempt a drastic re-negotiation at that point, at the very least.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Content that will be worthless?
That why I think they should get on with creating Destiny 2. If those articles a couple of months back were true then the reason behind the content issue is the crappy engine. So hopefully they are hard at work at everything that is Destiny 2 and get it rolling because Destiny will continue to die a slow death, hopefully it is not fully dead until they can send it off before the sequel.
geordiemp
Member
MMM, 60 FPS and if they got rid of lag in crucible and prioritised local low ping match making....
Would be sweeeeeet
mehrmantrout
Member
This is my view on it as well, they currently have a massive amount of content they could tweak but they seem happy to let the game rot. We get weapon balancing once in a bluemoon then any fuck ups take forever to fix (unless it's to there detriment), the loot as well as being lacklustre hardly ever drops ( the crucible drop rates are lottery levels of luck to get a decent weapon)
Nothing about a Bungie game has ever been rushed.
Bungie is notorious for biting off way more than they can chew when it comes to their games.
It's not that hard to generate weapon and armor perks that are only useful in PVE. A ton of them already exist.
Jumping Chief
Neo Member
I mean I'm in no rush for the next Destiny.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Seriously. Not like the old stuff is worth playing
I beg to differ. VoG is the best thing in the game. The loot isn't relevant but then again, neither is KF's once you've infused the stuff you use.
That's the most frightening part of all this.
yanipheonu
Member
Given the supposed problems Destiny's engine has putting new content in easily, I wouldn't be surprised if this delay is "fuck this, let's just revamp the whole damned engine so its more easy to maintain and expand."
At least, I hope that's the case.
At least, I hope that's the case.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Man, Destiny 2 must be such a mess to handle. I mean even aside from what content is saved for Destiny 2, how do you decide who has access to the older content? This is especially difficult if there are still plans for a PC release (the docs with the Destiny timeframe that were revealed during the Infinity Ward/Activision lawsuit said Destiny 2 onward will be PS4, "Xbox 720", and PC), since PC never had a chance to play Destiny 1.
Destiny's engine issues are due to having to accommodate last-gen and current-gen together. Hell, all of last years issues regarding vault space were due to memory issues that stemmed from the last-gen consoles.
Night Angel
Member
There goes my hope that they'd make a new engine and drop last gen.
Just read the Weekly Update on the Valentine's Day event. 1 week long, the main new feature is a 2v2 mode in PVP.
At this point they ought to just give up on the events if that's the best they can do. Just put Destiny on ice and find a nice way to tell people that it's time to just play some other games while we wait for Destiny 2. Stringing people along with these micro-events is just weak.
At this point they ought to just give up on the events if that's the best they can do. Just put Destiny on ice and find a nice way to tell people that it's time to just play some other games while we wait for Destiny 2. Stringing people along with these micro-events is just weak.