You mean like all the games listed in the trailer we are currently discussing?
Although, yes, I know a corporation making a trailer for upcoming products prominently feature their most well known and successful franchise is absolutely bananas.
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Xbox One: Just the beginning
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You mean like all the games listed in the trailer we are currently discussing?
Although, yes, I know a corporation making a trailer for upcoming products prominently feature their most well known and successful franchise is absolutely bananas.
geordiemp
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As a Ps4 owner (360 last gen) it was a nice video.
One day will get a second console, and for XB1 would be sunset overdrive, probably Rise, Crackdown and halo.
Not too sure about Scale+QB (unknowns), and gears I enjoyed more for its coop back in 360 early days, but it was hard to go back to so again not so sure.
MS certainly stepping up
One day will get a second console, and for XB1 would be sunset overdrive, probably Rise, Crackdown and halo.
Not too sure about Scale+QB (unknowns), and gears I enjoyed more for its coop back in 360 early days, but it was hard to go back to so again not so sure.
MS certainly stepping up
RedSparrows
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You mean like all the games listed in the trailer we are currently discussing?
Although, yes, I know a corporation making a trailer for upcoming products prominently feature their most well known and successful franchise is absolutely bananas.
I think you missed my final sentence
I think you missed my final sentence
Not at all.
Unless "variety" somehow means something different to you.
Papacheeks
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Did I specify in saying certain genre's? I don't believe I did. But it's not hard to see what they like to promote more, and concentrate on when green lighting games. Look at what's been cancelled Phantom Dust, Blask Tusk's original IP, Bunch of rare games in 360 era leading to Xbone.
Them churning out a forza titles regardless if one's a open world racing does not excite me to buy their console.
Gears of war, Halo, Fable again are being put into a rotation. I want to see new IP's from them. Recore, cuphead, ori are steps in the right direction.
I guess to me It's polarizing seeing, what they had last gen in the beginning on 360 compared to what their library seems to focus on. And it seems to focus on specific regions like shooters and racing games for US/UK.
Scalebound, cuphead are the only games that speak to me. Would it kill to have more games liek scalebound with that kind of quality on xbox? OG xbox had ton's of great sega /Japanese style titles like Otagi, Ninja Gaiden, then had crimson skies, and a lot of Oddworld games like Munch's , stranger's wrath. Plus all the Bioware exclusives.
Now it seems they focus on specific franchises that they kind of milked a lot last generation already.
That's my issue. Sony greenlights projects it probably shouldn't, but you don't know if you don't try.
Microsoft only up till past year or so because they have been getting beat sales wise, have now started up new studios. But at the same time closed some, and cancelled projects.
They could be more appealing in other countries more, if their library wasn't so UK/US focused.
That's my issue. Never said those games don't count. But they are few, in terms of new ip's. Crackdown is not that great of a series to begin with. I would rather they work on something new. Hopefully this year's E3 makes me eat more crow and they show up with new IP announcements?
Who knows.
Shaunboy97
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They've only showed the Alpha versions of the multiplayer game... The finished product will naturally look better. Plus the single player campaign will always look better than multi
Let's not start this.
Where is the news on the Gears 4 beta? I thought we would have gameplay on it by now.
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For me, it's more that this trailer does nothing to convince anyone that isn't already interested in Halo/Gears/Forza/Fable to want to jump in. I feel like the people who are fans of those games already own the system. Maybe it's me just not being a fan of MS first party stuff since the early 360 era but that trailer does not make we want to buy in at all.
At least when I had a PS3 and saw what MS was doing over on 360, there were a couple years early on where I definitely questioned whether or not I bought the right system but here it's not even close. I know which system I want to own and this isn't it.
Papacheeks
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Exactly my sentiment. I was all about 360 in the early years of gears, viva pinata, mass effect, halo, fable, lost odyssey, but then I slowly drifted away.
And to me if they had more games like Sunset overdrive, scalebound, I wouldn't bat an eye and buy an xbox right on the spot.
dreamlongdead
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This is really the year for Xbox exclusives to shine. The upcoming titles are a nice mix of new IPs and old franchises that are finally getting a current gen installment.
The Gears game in particular should hopefully deliver and not disappoint like Halo 5 did.
The Gears game in particular should hopefully deliver and not disappoint like Halo 5 did.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Still no reason for me to go and buy another Xbox One. Quantum Break looks ok, but when I see gameplay it looks repetitive and looks like I'll put it down in an hour. Maybe 2017 I'll have a reason to get one.
I'm guessing it's going to be a Halo 5 situation and the real name will come out around E3.
Head.spawn
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NippleViking
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Nice ad. Super excited for this year in general.
This too, though MS seem to be improving, even if slowly. They can start by totally revitalising this project: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00I9WUXHQ/
This too, though MS seem to be improving, even if slowly. They can start by totally revitalising this project: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00I9WUXHQ/
NippleViking
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It would, but E3's June while Evo's July. If it still exists, you'd imagine it would be re-revealed at a big show E3 or Gamescom.
2016 E3 re-reveal in June, followed with July public hands-on at Evo would be sweet though.
generic_username
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Bring on Quantum Break, Cuphead, Sea of Thieves, Recore and Scalebound. Excited about all of them!
Alpha Phoenix
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100% agreement.
irrotational
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There has been a little bit of to and fro about the claim for the top 10 best selling console games.
Does anyone know what the top 10 best selling games were and whether this is spin or a good fact used in marketing?
The way they said it in the video sounded pretty concrete..but then..
For example I assume bloodbourne sold loads and was in the top 10 but maybe it isn't a mainstream game so actually it didn't?
Not trying to start list wars or which console is better. I'm just intrigued by some claims that this is marketing spin when it sounds like a pretty factual claim? (And therefore MS couldn't actively lie about it)
So what were the top 10 best selling games?
Does anyone know what the top 10 best selling games were and whether this is spin or a good fact used in marketing?
The way they said it in the video sounded pretty concrete..but then..
For example I assume bloodbourne sold loads and was in the top 10 but maybe it isn't a mainstream game so actually it didn't?
Not trying to start list wars or which console is better. I'm just intrigued by some claims that this is marketing spin when it sounds like a pretty factual claim? (And therefore MS couldn't actively lie about it)
So what were the top 10 best selling games?
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Deleted member 471617
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Purchased an Xbox One just for a few of it's exclusives but sadly, after Rise of the Tomb Raider (yeah yeah, I know), the next exclusive im buying is Quantum Break but after that, who knows? Interested in other exclusives like ReCore but have to see actual gameplay and what the game is about. After Quantum Break, the console goes back in the box until who knows when.
This was discussed in the December NPD thread; The "top 10 selling titles released in 2015" list has a bunch of multiplats as well as Halo 5..
Halo 5 is the main reason why MS has the ability to make this statement (as it's not on any other console).
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...A corporation making a trailer for upcoming products prominently feature their most well known and successful franchise is absolutely bananas.
Heh -- pretty much. How dare they!
So the 10 best selling games of 2015 can all be played only on Xbox One?
Where's the catch that confuses some?
NippleViking
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Unsure whether this has been posted already, but am a junior member (thus unable to make threads) + a bit dubious on legitimacy, so posting it here 'Forza Horizon 3 Leak'
Was trending on /r/xboxone.
Was trending on /r/xboxone.
Because you can actually play the top 10 best selling games on more than just the XBO. MS just uses convieant phrasing to cut games off the list so it includes one of their exclusives.
The 10 best-selling games of the year
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Star Wars: Battlefront (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One) 360, PS3, PC)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Minecraft (360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4)
FIFA 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/14/2015-npd-the-10-best-selling-games-of-the-year/
Looks fake.
But Halo 5 isn't there?
How are they defining the top 10 selling of 2015?
Edit: Oh wait, I see.
"Xbox One is the only place where you can play all the top 10 selling games of 2015 that includes Halo 5."?
Oh hmm, released in 2015, so Halo 5 is included there.
Because they use the metric of best selling games that were released in 2015, it is masterful spin.
"top 10 selling titles released in 2015"
I know that.
Wait so then it's not a spin. They're just saying XBO is the only place to play the top 10 selling new games of 2015.
It's only unexpected if you assume they would use top 10 selling (new or old) of 2015, but you can't call spin if you assumed/expected that specific metric just because it's common.
Miles Quaritch
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Gears of Halo - racing at sea?
Man, MS sure are milking their franchises dry.
Man, MS sure are milking their franchises dry.
They also coveniently forgot to specify "in the US". Because there are games released in 2015 that are not on XOne at all and sold better than Halo (Splatoon for example).
Quantum Break, Scalebound, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves? It's ultimately down to preference, if their games library doesn't appeal I guess it means MS need more diversity (RPGs I think).
I admit MS are milking their core franchises, but to say they have nothing outside of that is ignorant to say the least, I'd say they are doing very well.
Oh, I see. They were talking about NPD only.
The only one that's arguably being "milked" is Forza considering there's already 2 Motorsports this gen and possibly 2 Horizons very soon.
Halo so far has a just been remake collection + first current gen entry and it's getting another RTS spin-off soon. Gears has just been a remake (true current gen debut coming later this year). Fable Legends isn't officially out yet.
It was obvious that MS was going to bring all of their most popular exclusive franchises over to the Xbox One. It would have been dumb for them not to.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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LostDonkey
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I hope gears 4 is nothing like Judgement. I've been playing through the BC versions of GEARS1-3 and really enjoyed them but I just can't play Judgement. It feels really bad.
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MS first party, in my opinion, has been very mediocre compared to the standard they set at the beginning of last gen. Halo 5 sold worse, and scored worse than 3. Forza has become NFS releasing every year. Fable has gone pay to win or free to play, I forgot the genre. The Gears Remaster didn't even chart for NPD. Their core franchises are on a downward trajectory and the new ones they're building are being made by third party (Remedy, Platinum, Armature) which is risky because there's no guarantee the studio (or the game) will stay exclusive. MS no longer has that huge US/UK install base to guarantee them sales for basically any game they market out i.e. Tomb Raider. I would not say they are doing very well, they are getting trounced by their competition and they know it.
If you don't think that is spin, I don't know what to tell you.
Inevitable considering how things are now vs. back in 2007 when the multiplayer shooter genre was more fresh (especially to people going to the 360 that came from the PS2).
Not sure I understand what you mean here. Horizon 2 and Motorsport 6 are some of the best racing games this gen; Very different from the state of quality that the NFS series has been in for the past decade. Horizon and Motorsport both share the Forza name and that's the only reason why you (and others) make this argument even though the games have many differences; This point couldn't be made if Forza Horizon was the exact same game but had a different name (e.g.: "Racing Horizon") -- hence why I feel that this argument is sort of silly.
???; It did.
There's no guarantee that a first party exclusive will have a sequel so I really don't understand your point. Making games period is risky.
On top of this, I would rather have a series that I like go multiplatform than for it to not have any more entries. Not sure why going multiplatform is a bad thing if it's the only way that games from I series that I like will continue on being made.
But the competition hasn't had really great sales for exclusives either this gen so I really don't understand your point. This gen is being heavily supported by popular multiplats; You took the focus away from game quality and made it about sales and "first party vs. third" which has little to do with game quality considering there have been well reviewed exclusives from various companies that didn't do very well in sales for pretty much every gaming generation.
SenjutsuSage
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Not sure what exactly it is, but I'm slowly becoming getting quite excited about Sea of Thieves. I don't know if it's just my desire to have a different kind of game along those lines from a major studio. I hope it delivers, and delivers big.
SenjutsuSage
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With the exception of Japanese RPG related content, Microsoft's first party output at the start of this gen slaughters what they did at the start with the Xbox 360. It honestly isn't even close in my opinion. And Halo 5 is a much superior game compared to Halo 3 in my opinion. It doesn't even matter that notable major releases are being made by third parties. It's a smart way to do business and you still end up with some damn great games. And some of the games are likely guaranteed to stay exclusive due to the nature of the deal Microsoft has with the studios. I believe Quantum Break as an IP is owned by Microsoft. The same may end up true for Scalebound, at least based on how Platinum seems to do things, and considering previous games haven't exactly lit up the charts (although the games themselves were fantastic), ownership of the IP might be something that Microsoft may have wanted, and that Platinum may have felt was reasonable for the opportunity to build another big budget title exclusively for one of the major platforms. It isn't always about beating the competition in business. It's also about doing better than you have previously and making marked improvements compared to where your last product was, and Microsoft are absolutely doing that and then some from the appearance of things with the Xbox One.
I personally need to see more of it to be excited. Definitely interested in it though.
Same. I wasn't thrilled when I first saw it but it's been growing on me since the reveal.
I'm still really impressed by that spin ... it takes effort word something in a way that's deceptive, paints you in a good light, and is still actually true. It's like something a really good lawyer would come up with.
I disagree. I don't care about sales nor does it make a game or system good. Halo 5 is the most fun I've had since the first two. Hell, I think it's the best MP in the series. Forza 2 Horizon was amazing! The Gear remaster was solid. You seem to be stuck more on sales then quality.
LOL, sure you did.