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[Draugoth]

00:00 Overview
00:58 Why isn’t this a full analysis video?
01:34 Early game visual features
06:18 Modes and performance
09:26 Sign-off

 

[Flabagast]

Man the performance mode looks awful

 

[Yoshichan]

Can someone summarize

 

[Jacob0101]

Can't wait!

 

[Beer Baelly]

Man the performance mode looks awful

Pre-order canceled.

 

[saintjules]

Pre-order canceled.

Imagine canceling this game because of this.

I mean I wish it was definitely better perf wise, but after a 4 year wait for this I'm not canceling shit.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Imagine canceling this game because of this.

People think they need 60fps with a clean IQ and a high resolution.

I have no problem with 30fps with a cleaner IQ and higher resolution. That’s how I’m currently playing Helldivers 2.

 

[Zuzu]

Yeah, doubt I’ll buy this as it currently is because of that terrible image quality in performance mode. I’ll have to wait for the PC version or a PS5 Pro version. I have a feeling that the eventual PC version will be a bit of a mess. UE4 + Open World + Square Enix + PC = potential disaster.

 

[Senua]

Imagine canceling this game because of this.

I can quite easily imagine, if one strongly dislikes 30fps action games.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Performance modes are garbage anyway. Quality gang for life.

 

[rofif]

They seriously just disabled bilinear scaling and enabled NN ? lol wtf.
NN works great for pixelart games but it makes 3d games pixelated.

Quality for me but I knew this already

 

[NeonGhost]

So glad I didn’t pre order this I don’t know why their performance modes look like garbage

 

[Fbh]

damn, holy shit that comparison at 6:34.
I'm probably waiting for a price drop or potential update that improves things.

 

[MikeM]

Imagine canceling this game because of this.

I mean I wish it was definitely better perf wise, but after a 4 year wait for this I'm not canceling shit.

Why not? This game is $94 CAD before tax in Canada. You can bet i’m having second thoughts on paying that much for a perf mode that is pretty subpar.

People think they need 60fps with a clean IQ and a high resolution.

I have no problem with 30fps with a cleaner IQ and higher resolution. That’s how I’m currently playing Helldivers 2.

Everyones’ eyes are different. I can’t do 30fps on OLED.

 

[Luipadre]

I might wait with this game and play Banishers instead. I have a feeling that they will improve the performance mode post launch, after everyone finished the game ofc

I would be fine with 30 fps mode, but it looks rough on OLED without motion blur

 

[winjer]

You would they use Nearest Neighbor, when UE4 has support for TAAU.
It's light and produces much better results than any spatial upscaler.

 

[rickybooby87]

Anything "spoilery" in this? We need that summary!

 

[scydrex]

Well will wait for them to fix this or maybe a ps5 pro update. This action game with fast combat in 30fps will pass.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Can't wait!

 

[Zuzu]

Anything "spoilery" in this? We need that summary!

There’s nothing major but they do show off a nice area in the video which might spoil it a bit for you. I think it’s still near the beginning but if you really don’t want anything spoilt then maybe don’t watch.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Performance modes are garbage anyway. Quality gang for life.

Most likely never played 30fps on an OLED.

 

[adamsapple]

Nearest neighbor upscaling is not the better solution, square, lol

 

[saintjules]

Well will wait for them to fix thos or maybe a ps5 pro update. This action game with fast combat in 30fps will pass.

While I'm eager for a Pro, I wouldn't wait for something that hasn't been announced yet.

Besides I suspect this game will warrant a 2nd playthrough. Kind of like when Remake got that 60fps update. Made it much sweeter the second time around.

 

[Celcius]

Can anyone post a summary for those of us avoiding spoilers?

 

[Senua]

Most likely never played 30fps on an OLED.

 

[jorgejjvr]

90+ metacritic

But something as basic as performance mode sucks lol

 

[Monokrom]

I'm not yet decided if I'm gonna go for performance or quality. On a Oled 30fps is not ideal, and there is no motion blur in this game (I think).

 

[Imtjnotu]

This

Can anyone post a summary for those of us avoiding spoilers?

It's the first version of the demo and not the patched version

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Most likely never played 30fps on an OLED.

Why subject myself to an inferior TV panel that will burn in eventually. LCD all the away baby.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Why subject myself to an inferior TV panel that will burn in eventually. LCD all the away baby.

LCD is trash just like 30fps. Inferior TV panel.

 

[balls of snow]

Quality mode lets go.

 

[Flabagast]

I might wait with this game and play Banishers instead. I have a feeling that they will improve the performance mode post launch, after everyone finished the game ofc

I would be fine with 30 fps mode, but it looks rough on OLED without motion blur

As a story driven game Banishers is very good, you won't be disappointed

 

[Mister Wolf]

Nearest neighbor upscaling is not the better solution, square, lol

Honestly they are better off dropping the resolution and using UE5's TSR. Ghostwire Tokyo is a UE4 game using TSR. No excuse for Square.

 

[Senua]

Why subject myself to an inferior TV panel that will burn in eventually. LCD all the away baby.

LCD evangelists and 30fps enjoyers go hand in hand.

 

[Dacvak]

What the hell is up with that nearest neighbor upscaling? That looks awful. Maybe it’s not as bad if you’re sitting far enough from your TV.

Also, I have no problem with 30fps games, but proper motion blur is an absolute MUST. Especially camera movement motion blur.

 

[jumpship]

Man the performance mode looks awful

And yet there are still people questioning the need for a PRO console.

 

[Flabagast]

What the hell is up with that nearest neighbor upscaling? That looks awful. Maybe it’s not as bad if you’re sitting far enough from your TV.

Also, I have no problem with 30fps games, but proper motion blur is an absolute MUST. Especially camera movement motion blur.

What's weird is that there was a really nice motion blur implemented in Remake, which is not the case at all here

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Yo Hiroki, where da fuck dat pro announcement at my man. My wallet is ready.

 

[NeonGhost]

And yet there are still people questioning the need for a PRO console.

I think this is more on the developers than the console

 

[skyfinch]

PS5 is a beast so performance mode for me.

 

[Tiamat2san]

Most likely never played 30fps on an OLED.

I do it almost on every game every day.
I don’t see the problem on an oled (got a 2017/18 panasonic)
The only exceptions are racing and fighting games.

I am a console gamer since the NES era
30 fps mode doesn’t scare me,

 

[ByWatterson]

If you play 30fps for literally an hour, all complaints go away.

Just play 30fps, get dem grafffixxxxxxx.

 

[NeonGhost]

If you play 30fps for literally an hour, all complaints go away.

Just play 30fps, get dem grafffixxxxxxx.

No

 

[rofif]

damn, holy shit that comparison at 6:34.
I'm probably waiting for a price drop or potential update that improves things.

that's just Nearest neighbor scaling which is essentially integer scaler (no filtering).
Bad and very strange choice for non 2d pixelart game.

PS5 did that initially 3 years ago on screenshots of ps4 1080p games if you plyed at 4k. Look how it pixelated bloodborne screenshots (was good in game but no filtering on screenshots, it was weird)
look at the text and fence.

 

[Bojji]

If you play 30fps for literally an hour, all complaints go away.

Just play 30fps, get dem grafffixxxxxxx.

This would have been tolerable with good camera motion blur like FFXVI but there isn't any...

Pixelated 60fps for me.

 

[Rockman33]

it’s very unpleasant for me to play a 30FPS game on my lg oled. Feels and looks like a slide show.

 

[marjo]

LCD evangelists and 30fps enjoyers go hand in hand.

Yeah. The only explanation I can think of is that some people lack the ability the perceive how shit the motion resolution is at 30fps on an lcd.

 

[rofif]

Yeah. The only explanation I can think of is that some people lack the ability the perceive how shit the motion resolution is at 30fps on an lcd.

I am oled user. 30 is still just fine. 24 is barely usable though. Slow panning shots in movies just judder.
30 depends. If motion blur is fine, it's ok. you get used to it as always

 

[SlimySnake]

15 minutes is all it takes for me to adjust. The trick is to never switch between 60 and 30 fps and you will have no need to adjust.

Ive been gaming on an OLED for the last 3 years and Spiderman Miles, Ratchet, FF16, Horizon FW, and Callisto all looked fine on the OLED. If anything its better because the input lag on the OLEDs is so low, it doesnt feel laggy.

I even disabled motion blur in Horizon FW to fix the intense HDR brightness flickering issues and didnt notice the jitteriness.

Again, the trick is to never switch back and forth. We have been playing 30 fps games for decades. Our eyes have already adjusted.

 

[FUBARx89]

Ooooof, some of them comparisons aren't pretty, at all.

Can they not use FSR or something? Cause it really does look bad in performance mode.