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Just had sex with a man - fucking awful

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moggio said:
Pineapples for the flavour, bananas for the thick and creamy texture.

I was at a "chillout" the other day that turned into a bit of a bukakke. Don't remember much about it though as I was off my tits on ketamin.

I attend group wank sessions quite often. They are popular with straight guys. Especially the football themed ones. Guess it's just a way for them to relax away from their other half with a group of non judgemental guys, watch some footie and have a wank.
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Do you know if there's one in Sydney?

I'm asking for a friend, obviously.
 
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LookAtMeGo said:
Oh wow. No. It wasnt a chemsex party. He said its $200 to get in and you leave your clothes at the door. There is a pool and hot tub. He said its a bunch of older men but since I'm younger and a virgin (with men) that I would be a treat.
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Unless you like throwing yourself in the deep end, I'd give that a miss.
 
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LookAtMeGo said:
Oh wow. No. It wasnt a chemsex party. He said its $200 to get in and you leave your clothes at the door. There is a pool and hot tub. He said its a bunch of older men but since I'm younger and a virgin (with men) that I would be a treat.
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You'd have been like a fresh meat amongst a pack of wolves. Definitely not.
 
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moggio said:
I attend group wank sessions quite often. They are popular with straight guys. Especially the football themed ones. Guess it's just a way for them to relax away from their other half with a group of non judgemental guys, watch some footie and have a wank.
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What? What? WHAT!? This is actually a thing? In like... Europe? Because surely this isn't American NFL parties.
 
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TheSeks said:
What? What? WHAT!? This is actually a thing? In like... Europe? Because surely this isn't American NFL parties.
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Much more popular in the states. Whole hotels are rented out so guys can just get together, spend a weekend drinking beer, watching sports and bashing one out.
 
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I don't believe it. Straight guys wanking in front of each other to relax seems odd. One of those guys is getting off to the others getting off.

On topic. I guess everything has been said at this point, I just wish OP better resolve when dealing with wine. I would hate for you to be with someone underaged next time. Just sleep off your boredom next time lol
 
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Mexen said:
I don't believe it. Straight guys wanking in front of each other to relax seems odd. One of those guys is getting off to the others getting off.
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Sure they're getting off on the other guy getting off. But only as bros so no homo.
 
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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
If we were Roman, whether OP was gay would depend on what role he took in the sex. It was not uncommon nor stigmatized for men to have low-key sexual relationships with other men, as long as they were the ones doing the penetration. What was considered to be "gay" (in the unfortunate and now thankfully archaic sense of "shamefully unmasculine") was to be the one being penetrated, perhaps the most famous example being that Julius Caesar was long rumored to have been the passive partner of the King of Bithynia in his younger years (though this was probably just a rumor started to try and discredit him, politically).
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This mentality still exists in some places.
 
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Hmm.. I need to do some research later. I've been curious about how homosexuality and even gender identity was taken in the Roman Empire throughout its life.
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As through most of human history, homosexuality was understood in terms of behavior, not identity. It's only with modern psychological research that we can show that varying degrees of homosexual attraction are basically an intrinsic part of some folk, where traditionally it was conceived of as a subset of other personality traits. Lesbianism basically was not cared about, iirc, because Roman society was intensely patriarchal and hypermasculine. Because marriage was not very closely tied to love, or even pleasurable sex, but to inheritance rights and political alliances, it was not uncommon for men to have low-key affairs, and not stigmatized for those affairs to be with other men, as long as it was publicly understood that they were the partner doing the penetrating, and not vice versa. Probably the most accepted version of this was an arrangement in which a middle-aged (i.e. 30s and 40s) man would carry on a sexual affair with a teenage boy for a time, sort of a "wise father figure seeing a young lad through a youthful flight of fancy" type thing, the most famous version of this being the great Emperor Hadrian openly having an affair with a young man named Antinous.

Re: gender identity, no society is a monolith, but in general, the Romans were pretty strict about maintaining strongly binary gender roles. The histories are full of scheming, evil she-witches who didn't know their place trying to scandalously assume power for themselves through proxies like young songs, weak husbands, etc., and men commonly slandered other men by comparing their behavior to women (Julius Caesar and the crowd he ran with were notably pilloried for wearing "effeminate" fashions). Funnily enough, there was a Roman emperor, a teen named Elagabulus, that would probably be something like a transgender of genderqueer individual today, though the very tendency to use effeminate behavior as an all-purpose insult to pillory disliked figures makes determining this difficult. Supposedly, though, he referred to himself as the "wife" of his chariot driver lover.
 
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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
As through most of human history, homosexuality was understood in terms of behavior, not identity. It's only with modern psychological research that we can show that varying degrees of homosexual attraction are basically an intrinsic part of some folk, where traditionally it was conceived of as a subset of other personality traits. Lesbianism basically was not cared about, iirc, because Roman society was intensely patriarchal and hypermasculine. Because marriage was not very closely tied to love, or even pleasurable sex, but to inheritance rights and political alliances, it was not uncommon for men to have low-key affairs, and not stigmatized for those affairs to be with other men, as long as it was publicly understood that they were the partner doing the penetrating, and not vice versa. Probably the most accepted version of this was an arrangement in which a middle-aged (i.e. 30s and 40s) man would carry on a sexual affair with a teenage boy for a time, sort of a "wise father figure seeing a young lad through a youthful flight of fancy" type thing, the most famous version of this being the great Emperor Hadrian openly having an affair with a young man named Antinous.

Re: gender identity, no society is a monolith, but in general, the Romans were pretty strict about maintaining strongly binary gender roles. The histories are full of scheming, evil she-witches who didn't know their place trying to scandalously assume power for themselves through proxies like young songs, weak husbands, etc., and men commonly slandered other men by comparing their behavior to women (Julius Caesar and the crowd he ran with were notably pilloried for wearing "effeminate" fashions). Funnily enough, there was a Roman emperor, a teen named Elagabulus, that would probably be something like a transgender of genderqueer individual today, though the very tendency to use effeminate behavior as an all-purpose insult to pillory disliked figures makes determining this difficult. Supposedly, though, he referred to himself as the "wife" of his chariot driver lover.
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I've heard about Elagabulus when researching the history of trans people, however the rest is fascinating info. Thanks for the info, I want to some more reading about this soon. Hmm, I think some of this Roman mentality still runs today in modern masculine society. I think this is what we call these days as toxic masculinity.
 
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Ms.Galaxy said:
Hmm.. I need to do some research later. I've been curious about how homosexuality and even gender identity was taken in the Roman Empire throughout its life.
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not very well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_ancient_Rome#Pleasure_and_infamy
A man who enjoyed receiving anal sex or providing oral sex, often characterized as a cinaedus, might also be stigmatized as infamis, though if he was a citizen he could retain his legal standing

infamia was the exclusion from legal protection, usually reserved for prostitutes, dancers, performers and gladiators. Their status was barely higher than that of slaves
e: good, informative post by Snowman Prophet of Doom on this topic
 
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