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[Pancakes R Us]

Sony should really rethink forced subscription for online play, PSN is obviously big enough to generate profit without it now and as much as it increase their profit, it's also driving some users away on the long run, the same goes for MS.

Some is the keyword there. There are clearly enough people happy to pay for the sub...if I was running a sub system and generating this amount of revenue, I don't think I'd be in a hurry to drop it. Most of the sales probably come from digital sales, but the subs no doubt help.

Edit: well done, Sony.

 

[everyday math]

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Wow gratz Sony I guess.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Is it me or is this a low number: $5.25 million ?

Less than that, it comes out to 4.87 million US.

 

[bobbytkc]

Is it me or is this a low number: $5.25 million ?

I think he got the units wrong. Most of the slides listed it as billion yen units, not million.

 

[bombshell]

Come to think of it, that's not even that much

40 million? lol

Or the PSN revenue number?

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Jesus, Sony is on a roll. Also, lol Nintendo. After the announcement of Zelda being delayed to 2017 and no NX at E3 to be stomped like this in the sales department is doing wonders for their image right now.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Jesus, Sony is on a roll. Also, lol Nintendo. After the announcement of Zelda being delayed to 2017 and no NX at E3 to be stomped like this in the sales department is doing wonders for their image right now.

2016 might end up being really, really ugly for their financials.

 

[allan-bh]

Nintendo revenue in FY 2015 was 504 billion, not million.

 

[Champion]

Please tell me this is false...

 

[Newtype-001]

Congrats Sony!

Finally getting some use

 

[I-hate-u]

Is it me or is this a low number: $5.25 million ?

I don't know if I am reading this wrong, but from the pdf, it's 529,318 million yen.

So, 529B Yen.

 

[1st Course]

Is it me or is this a low number: $5.25 million ?

yeah should be billions (translate to ~$5b).

 

[WolfForager]

Gaming profit ~2x compared to last year

+ mobile losses significantly down.

This is good.

Wait, does that say Sony's total operating profit was $2.7 billion? They've come a long way in the last few years if so..

 

[Obliterator]

Less than that, it comes out to 4.87 million US.

Yeah he has to have the unit listed wrong I'm assuming. There is no chance they only did 4 million in revenue from digital

 

[Jigorath]

Gaming profit ~2x compared to last year

+ mobile losses significantly down.

This is good.

Impressive results.

Is it me or is this a low number: $5.25 million ?

He probably meant to write billion yen.

 

[Zeusy]

wow, congrats sony!

 

[Ray Down]

We need a version of this if the PSVR and PS4K is successful.

 

[Fady K]

That's incredible :0! Also - holy shit at Zhuge's PSN revenue tweet

 

[Cranster]

Sony should really rethink forced subscription for online play, PSN is obviously big enough to generate profit without it now and as much as it increase their profit, it's also driving some users away on the long run, the same goes for MS.

LMAO, Sony fans argued about that for well over 10 years, it's not going to happen especially with Sony now charging for online multiplayer.

There's too much money on the taple and it costs alot of money to run the service.

 

[Wagram]

Sony really needs to chop or fix that damn mobile division. I swear it's the new TV division. Nothing but bleeding.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Yeah he has to have the unit listed wrong I'm assuming. There is no chance they only did 4 million in revenue from digital

Yea that's what I'm thinking.

 

[RiccochetJ]

No reason not to release 4K. They can do whatever they want,

You have a very short memory.

Adorable.

 

[SmartWaffles]

To correct ZhugeEx, PSN sale number is actually 529,318m yen (529 billion yen, 4.68 billion $).

 

[papertoonz]

40 million PS4 shipped and still not a single gameplay video of GT...

give it time, i'm sure they will have something at E3

 

[McMoneyman]

Would've been hard to imagine this outcome last generation. Well done Sony

 

[Rymuth]

PS4 to surpass 40 million in May.

Well, PS4 has 4 days for sell 40 million, if not, my hearly May prediction will become true.

 

[Nestunt]

They are going to stop a bit

 

[Obliterator]

Yeah so Sony did over 4.5 Billion USD in digital revenue last year.

If that's not a MASSIVE eye opener for where the industry is headed I'm not sure what is

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Yeah so Sony did over 4 Billion USA in digital revenue last year.

If that's not a MASSIVE eye opener for where the industry is headed I'm not sure what is

MS was maybe just 4-5 years too early with their original XBox One plans.

 

[AllenShrz]

So Kaz did really turn the ship around, great on him.

A big far cry from Howard Stringer's regime.

 

[RibMan]

Excellent numbers. Their management of the PS4 has been remarkable. As long as they market the Neo correctly, they will have the potential of hitting 100m consoles this gen.

Sony should really rethink forced subscription for online play, PSN is obviously big enough to generate profit without it now and as much as it increase their profit, it's also driving some users away on the long run, the same goes for MS.

It comes down to two things:

1) How many people are driven away. If the number is < 10,000,000 then there's no chance of them dropping it. If the number is >10,000,000 then there's a real chance of them dropping it. I highly doubt there are over 10 million people who choose to avoid the PS4 specifically due to PS+.

2) What their competition is doing. If Microsoft drops the Xbox Live Gold requirement then Sony will absolutely have to rethink the PS+ requirement.

 

[bananafactory]

For context, compared to other systems

 

[Jon Carter]

I remember when people thought the WiiU's tepid launch signaled the beginning of the end of the console industry, and the PS4/X1 were going to crater accordingly.

lol

The PS4 and XBO appear to be pretty front-loaded. Their start was impressive, but everything after that hasn't been particularly impressive. The PS4 is no PS2 and it will only match or beat the Wii by having a longer life.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

For context, compared to other systems

nestled comfortably between the Wii and the PS2 seems like a pretty sweet spot to be in.

 

[Dougieflesh]

MS was maybe just 4-5 years too early with their original XBox One plans.

People might have been receptive to it next gen. Patience definitely woulda been the best course of action for their original plans. Oh well hindsight is 20/20

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Congrats Sony!

Ha, nice.

Makes you wonder what the VR market will add to this for this fiscal year.

Actually, question. Is the profit for Sony as a whole or just the playstation division?

 

[Bare Grills]

40 million? lol

Or the PSN revenue number?

Probably could've been more if Uncharted 4 wasn't delayed 3 times

 

[ArchedThunder]

What was their forcast again?

 

[GravityInsanity]

For context, compared to other systems

Damn, it's still outselling the PS2.

 

[RamzaIsCool]

Kinda a disappointing q4 when it comes to PS4 HW shipments tbh. Sell through of the PS4 is up in both US and Japan YoY, so i wonder why the shipment drop. Did they overship in Q3? Weak RotW/ Euro sales? PS4 slim replacement coming out soon?

The real question is tho, PSN > Steam? And a quick google search says yes! (Steam 2015 revenue was $3.5 billion)

 

[Jigorath]

The PS4 and XBO appear to be pretty front-loaded. Their start was impressive, but everything after that hasn't been particularly impressive. The PS4 is no PS2 and it will only match or beat the Wii by having a longer life.

It'll match the Wii with a standard 6 year life span.

Kinda a disappointing q4 when it comes to PS4 HW shipments tbh. Sell through of the PS4 is up in both US and Japan YoY, so i wonder why the shipment drop. Did they overship in Q3? Weak RotW/ Euro sales? PS4 slim replacement coming out soon?

Eh what now? Q3 was the holidays, of course they'd ship more then.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

The PS4 and XBO appear to be pretty front-loaded. Their start was impressive, but everything after that hasn't been particularly impressive. The PS4 is no PS2 and it will only match or beat the Wii by having a longer life.

Somewhat hilarious reading this post right below that graph. Ps4 still tracking ahead of Ps2...

 

[KZObsessed]

So Sony corp made $2.7B profit this year? How does that compare to the last few years?

So has Kaz really turned them around? I don't really follow this stuff.

 

[NateDrake]

The PS4 and XBO appear to be pretty front-loaded. Their start was impressive, but everything after that hasn't been particularly impressive. The PS4 is no PS2 and it will only match or beat the Wii by having a longer life.

EU and other regions - be it the Middle East, Asia, South America, etc..., are the key reasons the PS4 is outpacing the PS2 at this point. US sales are steady but far from amazing. Japan sales are what they are. PS4 really performed well in Europe and other areas. It's just a question of how long the pace will last.

 

[bombshell]

Probably could've been more if Uncharted 4 wasn't delayed 3 times

I'm not sure how that makes 40 million "not even that much".

 

[HeWhoWalks]

The PS4 and XBO appear to be pretty front-loaded. Their start was impressive, but everything after that hasn't been particularly impressive. The PS4 is no PS2 and it will only match or beat the Wii by having a longer life.

Um, I think you're out of touch with what's what, here. Never mind that it, in no way, disproves the post you quoted.

 

[RibMan]

Sony really needs to chop or fix that damn mobile division. I swear it's the new TV division. Nothing but bleeding.

They need to fix it, but exiting mobile isn't a super smart decision given the direction of consumer electronics (i.e. we're not moving back to stationary devices). Didn't Sony just open a new mobile gaming company, ForwardWorks?

 

[Bare Grills]

I'm not sure how that makes 40 million "not even that much".

I was just kidding, 40 million is super impressive

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Crazy thing is this is PSN at a 40 million base. PSN will continue growing with the userbase.

 

[nib95]

2.3 million hardware over the last 3 months doesn't actually seem crazy high. How does this quarter compare to the same quarter in previous years?