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Uncharted 4 spoiler free early copy impressions

Uncharted 3 soured quite a few people on the franchise. If it wasn't for TLOU, I doubt this game would be as anticipated as it currently is.
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.
 

Chao

Member
More stealth sections and a story by the last of us guys. This is looking more and more like a bargain bin purchase for me.
At least Amy's Star Wars project is due soon, and RotTR hits PS4 at Christmas so there will be lots of uncharted like games to fill in the gaps

Everything in this post is like bizarro world for me. Not only you dislike the fact it's been made by the last of us guys, you're even looking forward to Tomb Raider instead.

But hey, it's your opinion. It's only that I couldn't disagree more.
 

nib95

Banned
Sounds about right, loved Uncharted 3 and don't understand the fuss at all.

I recently played all 3 (Remastered), and thought number 3 was still incredible. The story is definitely a lot more inconsistent though, and the lack of proper hit reactions is a bit of a sore point.
 
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.

I was relatively late to the party with the PS3 in general, so I had the opportunity to play all 3 Uncharted's back to back to back, and I heavily concur with this. I loved Uncharted 3 nearly as much as I did UC2, and the latter is a game I consider a masterpiece. The last "boss" was the only thing that holding UC3 back from the same status, but otherwise it was a fantastic game. I bought and played through the remaster and foudn the same thing is true on my second (and third) playthrough of the series, as well.

IMHO, of course.
 

Revan

Member
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.

I was part of that minority - only played through it once on the PS3 and couldn't bring myself to touch it again - the shooting mechanics were horrendous and it felt more like a chore to get through then anything else....

....until I got the UC collection and man I enjoyed 3 a hell of a lot more that time around. Bluepoint did a good job correcting the "issues" I had with the original and I've come to appreciate UC3 more then I did. It's still not god tier like 2 is but it's a damned good game.
 

SomTervo

Member
One important factor people aren't considering in the "normal or hard first time" debate is that the encounters are different on Hard and Crushing, with more enemies in different positions than Easy or Normal.

For this reason I'll be playing on Normal first-time. Unusual for me, but this means when I try Crushing it'll be like far newer experience second time round, with unexpected placements to deal with :)

Unless, of course, Normal is piss-easy, in which case I'll bump it up.
 
I'm playing on hard, I love the aggressiveness of the enemies. When you get spotted they swarm from all sides. Trying to hide in one spot is basically death, you have to move constantly which goes with the games strength.
 

Sagittal

Banned
I recently played all 3 (Remastered), and thought number 3 was still incredible. The story is definitely a lot more inconsistent though, and the lack of proper hit reactions is a bit of a sore point.

Uncharted 3 undoubtedly had some issues, as does its predecessors. I just struggle to see how they dampen the game to the degree that some people proclaim, it is rather bewildering. I can see how people could raise an issue with the hit reactions and story though. Personally I found the game to be a step up from 2. The combat sequences seemed less tedious, the presentation was raised to 11, young Nathan's story was interesting and the locations glued with my own taste. Seeing the London skyline for the first time was mind blowing.
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nib95

Banned
Uncharted 3 undoubtedly had some issues, as does its predecessors. I just struggle to see how they dampen the game to the degree that some people proclaim, it is rather bewildering. I can see how people could raise an issue with the hit reactions and story though. Personally I found the game to be a step up from 2. The combat sequences seemed less tedious, the presentation was raised to 11, young Nathan's story was interesting and the locations glued with my own taste. Seeing the London skyline for the first time was mind blowing.

Yeap. Plus I actually thought the set pieces were even more elaborate, and the combat more dynamic. I think the metacritic scores for the games are fair tbh (UC3 is at 92). Though for me personally, Uncharted 2 is a straight 10.
 

zsynqx

Member
I'm playing on hard, I love the aggressiveness of the enemies. When you get spotted they swarm from all sides. Trying to hide in one spot is basically death, you have to move constantly which goes with the games strength.

Have you been marking enemies and trying to stealth, or just been going in guns blazing?
 
One thing people won't deny that set pieces in U3 are more ambitious than U2 on scale. Even til this day, no game has match that sinking ship sequence.
 

Sagittal

Banned
Yeap. Plus I actually thought the set pieces were even more elaborate, and the combat more dynamic. I think the metacritic scores for the games are fair tbh (UC3 is at 92). Though for me personally, Uncharted 2 is a straight 10.

To think that we are so close to a game that could out class them both is so very exciting! You may very well be playing another 10 soon enough, let's hope.
 

Chola

Banned
What else is there?? All you can do is either grab from behind and interrogate them, slit their throat or make them talk. There's nothing else you can do.

As far as contextual melee, you're looking at it like the game will do an action when it says to do it. That's not how it works. Say you're running towards an enemy and you hit square, in that situation drake may dropkick the enemy. Run while blind firing and then hit square and he'll clothesline the enemy. If you're coming down a flight of stairs and an enemy is below you and you hit square, he'll football punt the enemy. You have a shot gun in your hand, well the melee attacks will use the shot gun to hit him. It's not bad at all. I think MGSV has some light contextual melee like if the enemy has a gun in their hand, Snake will disarm them and stun them with a knockout punch. It's pretty much the same thing. Obtuse and unwieldy is not how I'd describe UC4's melee.

MGSV CQC has lot more depth and every action is player-driven [3X Combos, interrogation, Disarm, Holds, Up-and-Over and Corner Holds, counter, Throws, Into Walls throws, Hold-Up, Trip, The Boot]. what you are doing in uncharted is hitting one button and game is changing its animation accordingly. You have less control over drake than snake
 
Have you been marking enemies and trying to stealth, or just been going in guns blazing?

Trying yeah, being successful no. There is no way to alter guard routes, you can't distract them or anything so I don't have the patience to always wait for an opening. No silenced weapons so I can't kill from afar either. I get a few down then I get bored and shoot everyone. The firefights are the fun parts anyway.
 

reKon

Banned
More stealth sections and a story by the last of us guys. This is looking more and more like a bargain bin purchase for me.
At least Amy's Star Wars project is due soon, and RotTR hits PS4 at Christmas so there will be lots of uncharted like games to fill in the gaps

What hyperbole in this post, lmao. Thisisgaf.gif
 

nib95

Banned
To think that we are so close to a game that could out class them both is so very exciting! You may very well be playing another 10 soon enough, let's hope.

Yeap. Don't think I've been this excited for a game since, well, Uncharted 3 lol.

One thing people won't deny that set pieces in U3 are more ambitious than U2 on scale. Even til this day, no game has match that sinking ship sequence.

Agreed. Playing them all back to back just a few months ago, it really stamped home just how impressively ambitious and insane U3's set pieces were. The capsizing cruise ship is just magnificent. Not just when you're hanging on that giant chandelier whilst the glass is cracking etc, but even when you're running through and away from it, it whilst the shop and rooms are sideways or upside down. And then the desert plane crash as well. Just awesome.

For some reason I don't think UC4 will match these other set pieces for overall epicness, but I think they'll have a different sort of quality in being more dynamic and mechanically superior in terms of gameplay. Not long now till we find out!
 

The Lamp

Member
More stealth sections and a story by the last of us guys. This is looking more and more like a bargain bin purchase for me.
At least Amy's Star Wars project is due soon, and RotTR hits PS4 at Christmas so there will be lots of uncharted like games to fill in the gaps

Most of the stealth sections aren't forced...they're encounters where you can choose how to approach...and you can take out pretty much all the enemies that way.
 

viHuGi

Banned
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.

Everyone i know loved Uncharted 3 including myself, i had to know Gaf to know some people didnt like it haha

Uncharted 3 was the best selling and most played aswell.
 

cackhyena

Member
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.
Too many things left it a solid notch below 2. 2 will always be one of my favorite game. 3 will be forgotten in time by me. Forgotten much already.
 

AKyemeni

Member
Anyone have any specific questions? I'm awake and fresh. I was thinking of doing a review but I'm too lazy.

I've beaten the game in 11 hours with 609 enemies slain on hard. I will be completely honest in what I say.
 

dofry

That's "Dr." dofry to you.
Could you move the U3 discussion somewhere else and post impressions on U4 instead? Pretty please.
 

nib95

Banned
Anyone have any specific questions? I'm awake and fresh. I was thinking of doing a review but I'm too lazy.

I've beaten the game in 11 hours with 609 enemies slain on hard. I will be completely honest in what I say.

Damn, that's the shortest time frame anyone has beaten the game yet. How many treasures did you manage to collect?
 

The Lamp

Member
Everyone i know loved Uncharted 3 including myself, i had to know Gaf to know some people didnt like it haha

Uncharted 3 was the best selling and most played aswell.

It's really easy to highlight Uncharted 3's problems. The story was really bad, constructed around unbelievable set pieces in a way that was nonsense at times and really badly paced.

The gameplay encounters were inconsistent in quality, with really bad stealth (it's much improved in U4).

These are observations that are easy to make. For some people, this didn't bother them. For others, this was the key to U3 being worse than U2.

U4 is definitely a return to form in terms of careful story and pacing design.
 

derExperte

Member
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.

Don't forget that the launch was a mess, controls were busted and GAF started a campaign to get them fixed. Even after the patch it didn't feel right to me, by that time all hype was gone and the rest of the game felt like lots of left-over ideas that weren't good enough for U2. Huge disappointment overall.

U4 is definitely a return to form in terms of careful story and pacing design.

Good to hear that from someone who had problems with 3 too.
 

cackhyena

Member
Anyone have any specific questions? I'm awake and fresh. I was thinking of doing a review but I'm too lazy.

I've beaten the game in 11 hours with 609 enemies slain on hard. I will be completely honest in what I say.
Did you try stealth much on Hard? I'm assuming pattern routes don't change since it has no chance of being a deep as something like mgs.
 

spekkeh

Banned
I see a lot of people gushing over Uncharted 4 who say they were also in love with the series before that. What if you think the previous ones were okay/decent? Like I'd rate them 5/10, 8/10 and 7/10 respectively; mostly because of predictable plots and rather one note gameplay. Does this feel like a different game, or very much like the previous ones?
 

Scrawnton

Member
Uncharted 3 soured a very vocal minority. I'm betting the vast majority of people who played it enjoyed it just as much as they did Uncharted 2.

I am now on chapter 22 on the ps4 version and I like it much better than 2. I hated 2 because the enemies took way too many bullets to kill and it really made me hate the gunplay sections.

I like 3 way better than 2. After replaying 2 last fall I had no excitement for 4, but having played through 3 this past few weeks makes me upset excited for 4.

Too many numbers in this post lol.
 
I see a lot of people gushing over Uncharted 4 who say they were also in love with the series before that. What if you think the previous ones were okay/decent? Like I'd rate them 5/10, 8/10 and 7/10 respectively; mostly because of predictable plots and rather one note gameplay. Does this feel like a different game, or very much like the previous ones?

The change in gameplay choices for shooting is miles above. I was playing Uncharted 2 last night and it's crazy how basic the enemy encounters feel in comparison now.
 

The Lamp

Member
I see a lot of people gushing over Uncharted 4 who say they were also in love with the series before that. What if you think the previous ones were okay/decent? Like I'd rate them 5/10, 8/10 and 7/10 respectively; mostly because of predictable plots and rather one note gameplay. Does this feel like a different game, or very much like the previous ones?

Much like previous.
 

AKyemeni

Member
Damn, that's the shortest time frame anyone has beaten the game yet. How many treasures did you manage to collect?
Total treasures: 22/109
Total journal entries: 10/25
Total notes: 11/23
Conversations : 14/36

Total of 153 headshots :p

No, I wasn't rushing. I was actually exploring quite a fair bit. The treasures are really hard to spot and the optional conversations can be glitchy, since sometimes I would go talk to someone and an animation cancels the prompt.
 

reKon

Banned
Anyone have any specific questions? I'm awake and fresh. I was thinking of doing a review but I'm too lazy.

I've beaten the game in 11 hours with 609 enemies slain on hard. I will be completely honest in what I say.

Why are you being a hater on the single player? You suggested that other Uncharted games were better in this regard. That suggests that you had issues with story and pacing because if you're saying the gameplay is worse, I'm saying gtfo. Try not to give any type of spoiler in your response if possible and if you aren't able to do that, just ignore my post, lol.
 
Anyone have any specific questions? I'm awake and fresh. I was thinking of doing a review but I'm too lazy.

I've beaten the game in 11 hours with 609 enemies slain on hard. I will be completely honest in what I say.

How do you feel the "wide linear" approach works with the story pacing? Do things always move at a brisk pace, or is there potentially a lot of pointless dicking around without much payoff?

What I'm most curious about is how the game handles larger areas -- I'm really a story-driven rpg guy, and there the side content/exploration usually has some character progression/new item type payoff.
 

foxbeldin

Member
Damn, that's the shortest time frame anyone has beaten the game yet. How many treasures did you manage to collect?

To be fair, AKyemeni is probably pretty/really good and doesn't need as much retries as the usual players do for certain encounters.
 

jdstorm

Banned
Everything in this post is like bizarro world for me. Not only you dislike the fact it's been made by the last of us guys, you're even looking forward to Tomb Raider instead.

But hey, it's your opinion. It's only that I couldn't disagree more.

I guess I feel the need to explain it. So here goes.

I dislike stealth games in general. I'm terrible at them so I don't find them fun. That tended to sour me on TLoU I got about halfway through before looking up what happened via YouTube. It was cool for what it was. It's just not something I enjoyed. In general I preferred Amy Hennings scripts in uncharted 1 and 3 over Druckmans work on U2. So the fact Druckman dumped 8 months worth of Hennings work on U4 makes me look at it in a slightly negative light, As for Tomb Raider. I enjoyed the first and loved Riana Pratchett's work in TR2013 and in Mirrors Edge. So that game has more of my faith right now.
 

Roufianos

Member
People criticise U3's gunplay but I remember playing U2 back in 2009 and thinking the shooting was absolutely awful.

I'm glad it seems like it's been addressed because it's always been the weakest part of the series.
 
hmmm..

What chapter are you on Lamp btw?

Nostalgia and memory can be a bit silly along with expectations. Me and the wife were playing Uncharted 1 and then started 2. 4 arrived, we jumped into that. Now that I've exp 4, the jump back to 2 is jaring from obviously a visual perspective but also gameplay, shooting, etc. It truly makes me appreciate 4 even more.
 
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