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[Ottobit]

It's not modern nor future not even ww2. It's ww1 a area which is has been barren.

They say destruction is back. Not BF4 style but more so to bad company

They never said this lol. And we certainly didn't see it. I'm sure destruction is back, but strongly doubt it's anything like bad company.

 

[The_Dama]

Damnnnnnn
I'm in

 

[Psychoward]

Whats up with the hate for Seven Nation Army?

Also the people who called it Dubstep are hilarious. TeenagerGaf needs to listen to better music.

Calling out TeenagerGaf while praising Glitch Mob - an entry level electronic band is kinda hilarious. They're not exactly obscure. I like some of their own songs but this cover was bad and worse - didn't fit with the trailer.

 

[……forgetit]

Wrong thread.

 

[jett]

This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of British and European history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the First World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

I see what your'e saying, however most of what you said applies to most shooters of this sort so I don't see the point of acting so high and mighty and trying to make an example out of this game or insulting people interested in it. Wish this industry was better/more mature about this kind of stuff. We probably shouldn't be getting so many games that glorify war, but whatcha gonna do. You probably even got people going AWESOMESAUCE!!1 around here at the use of mustard gas.

 

[Hendrick's]

Time to jump back into the Battlefield series. This is exactly what I wished for.

 

[Killer Queen]

Cuz, man, that's a living, breathing animal, you monster.

So are the men out there you're shooting!
No life is safe during war.

 

[Palculator]

Time to jump back into the Battlefield series. This is exactly what I wished for.

Yup! This is exactly what's getting me back in after I tired of current and semi-future settings around the time of Bad Company 2 already. Gettin' hype!

 

[Messofanego]

Just one second of the trenches gives me those really cinematic CGI/faked gameplay vibes that were so hot around Killzone 2/Motorstorm times.

Have any of the DICE guys played Verdun?

 

[HarryKS]

Great song. Never get tired of it.

 

[GoodCoffeeJoey]

120 men? Is this real?

No.

 

[MaKTaiL]

This looks really good. Can't wait to see some actual gameplay.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Collect these CGI posts for a THREAD OF SHAME. Battlefront taught me to believe in Frostbite games not hamstrung by last gen.

They're using the same photogrammetry tech, too. May not all be in-game yet, but JackFrags mentioned it.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Will NOT look like that on release, no way in hell.


Similar? Sure, but not that good.

 

[0racle]

This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of British and European history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the First World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

Buddy, this should be bannable. I have not seen a worse shit post.

Read your post again, you obviously have some deep rooted issues that need professional help. Im not saying that to be condecending, its the truth you need to realize for yoir own good. That was dowright twisted and completely delusional.

 

[SolidSnakex]

120 men? Is this real?

It's fake, you can see it being discussed here

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/1ysdv4/a_mammoth_german_war_car_1605_2407_19141918/

 

[potatohead]

Just one second of the trenches gives me those really cinematic CGI/faked gameplay vibes that were so hot around Killzone 2/Motorstorm times.

Have any of the DICE guys played Verdun?

Funny that you mention KZ2/Motorstorm...

Not about being faked, but the aesthetic. I miss the original KZ and KZ2 aesthetic in FPS games. Gritty and dirty, feeling of metal.

I would actually like to see Killzone go back and do a prequel to the original Killzone with the same vibe and artstyle as KZ1/KZ2.

Given that DICE is willing to go back in time with their franchise, I would really like to see the same done by GG.

 

[Shadax the wizard]

Just one second of the trenches gives me those really cinematic CGI/faked gameplay vibes that were so hot around Killzone 2/Motorstorm times.

Have any of the DICE guys played Verdun?

I don't think it's CGI. Battlefront was a looker and this isn't confirmed to be running at 60 to my knowledge? It may be a 30 title or they may have improved their graphics since BF.

 

[VincentMatts]

That looked amazing but then again, so did every Battlefront trailer and conference demo. They can still fuck it up. That's what that thought me.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Funny how people complain about the title Battlefield 1 when no one complains about how we call it World War 1? Why don't we call it just world war?

LOL

 

[Chubzdoomer]

This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of British and European history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the First World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

I'm still trying to figure out why you're saying what you're saying. All the trailer showed was different scenes of war.

To say that you're overreacting would be an understatement of all understatements...

 

[Portugeezer]

I don't think it's CGI. Battlefront was a looker and this isn't confirmed to be running at 60 to my knowledge? It may be a 30 title or they may have improved their graphics since BF.

It will probably be 60, these are just fancy cinematic shots with heavy DOF.

Battlefront trailer also looked amazing and the game looked pretty close to the trailer in the end.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

ok 2 questions:

any news on dates for the beta?

what is this pigeon tube DLC thing in the CE?

 

[More_Badass]

I dont wanna sound insensitive, but.... It was more than 100 years ago....

Of course, then I read that last line and lost all shits given. What the hell?

This was more than 100 years ago. Get over it. Where were you when game developers were making dozens of World War 2 films?

I think that guy's reaction is very overblown, but also think it's kind of a odd mindset to be dismissive with a "it was a 100 years ago, who cares how the conflict is portrayed" attitude

Maybe that's just the history buff in me. Like the crazily offended reaction isn't called for, but the "so what, it was a while ago" reaction is pretty bad too

Regardless of how games have portrayed war in the past doesn't mean they should always portray those conflicts as such, not should we be so dismissive because...video games.

 

[Messofanego]

I don't think it's CGI. Battlefront was a looker and this isn't confirmed to be running at 60 to my knowledge? It may be a 30 title or they may have improved their graphics since BF.

Oh, I should clarify, I'm not saying this is CGI. I'm just recounting this reminds me of those really cinematic gameplay stuff that was passed as real at the time but now Frostbite is so good that this is reality.

And yes, Killzone 1/2 had a great aesthetic.

 

[The Faceless Master]

This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of British and European history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the First World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

i feel ya man.

that's how i felt about Hardline when it was announced.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Battlefield 1 has mustard gas how can CoD ketchup.

Hm, good job. I had a smirk lol.

 

[VincentMatts]

I think that guy's reaction is very overblown, but also think it's kind of a odd mindset to be dismissive with a "it was a 100 years ago, who cares how the conflict is portrayed" attitude

Maybe that's just the history buff in me. Like the crazily offended reaction isn't called for, but the "so what, it was a while ago" reaction is pretty bad too

Regardless of how games have portrayed war in the past doesn't mean they should always portray those conflicts as such, not should we be so dismissive because...video games.

Jesus Christ are you serious? Where was all this when World War II games are being made or games based on Desert Storm? Fact is, it is a f****** video game, not a history lesson

 

[Strootman]

This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of British and European history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the First World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

Breaking news: it's a fucking videogame.

 

[Rebel Leader]

They never said this lol. And we certainly didn't see it. I'm sure destruction is back, but strongly doubt it's anything like bad company.

Earth-shattering Intuitive Destruction - With intuitive destruction no battle is ever the same. Destroy vehicles big and small, and demolish entire buildings. From tiny wooden houses to massive stone forts, even the grounds on which you're fighting can be blasted apart.

Sounds more like bad company style and not bf4 style

 

[The Faceless Master]

Jesus Christ are you serious? Where was all this when World War II games are being made or games based on Desert Storm? Fact is, it is a f****** video game, not a history lesson

actually, quite a few people on GAF felt that way about the Fallujah game that eventually got canned.

 

[TemplaerDude]

Downgrade confirmed. I'm out, preorder cancelled.

Ha ha, downgrade from what, the year?

 

[Chubzdoomer]

Jesus Christ are you serious? Where was all this when World War II games are being made or games based on Desert Storm? Fact is, it is a f****** video game, not a history lesson

Honestly, and I promise I'm not just saying this to be a jerk, I think people love being offended these days just because they feel empowered when they take an unpopular stance, even if that stance is totally unreasonable and contradictory to their previous stances/beliefs.

Perhaps I'm wrong--it is just a theory after all-- but I guarantee you the vast majority of these people have no problem with the scores of WW2 games out there, for example, even despite that war also being so costly and cruel.

 

[Fotos]

actually, quite a few people on GAF felt that way about the Fallujah game that eventually got canned.

If i'm not mistaken, didn't that game get announced like a year or two after Fallujah? Desert Storm was 25 years ago and WW1 was 100 years. Some time has to pass first.

 

[packy34]

actually, quite a few people on GAF felt that way about the Fallujah game that eventually got canned.

That game was being made while the US was still fighting in Iraq at full speed. This is undeniably different.

 

[VincentMatts]

Honestly, and I promise I'm not just saying this to be a jerk, I think people love being offended these days just because they feel empowered when they take an unpopular stance, even if that stance is totally unreasonable and contradictory to their previous stances/beliefs.

These people need to go see a psychiatrist

 

[Black Mantis]

It's weird they choose a black person for the cover for a WW I setting. They were some black soldiers but they were like the vast minority.

Educate yourself, there's a great story in there.

http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/world-war-i-history/videos/the-harlem-hellfighters

 

[Portugeezer]

actually, quite a few people on GAF felt that way about the Fallujah game that eventually got canned.

The sentiments behind that are more understandable because it is very recent history, especially in 2009.

 

[SargerusBR]

I am sorry but I don't see how drawing a line in the sand with this game works. It was an atrocious war, but they all are. If you have an issue with violence in video games, that's one issue, but to take up the banner against this one conflict doesn't make sense. Do you think the Vietnamese or Americans shouldn't have been upset about BF Vietnam? Is WWII not in a way shameful for the Germans? Yet we played the crap out of that. If you are taking a moral stand against war games in general, I understand, but taking up the rallying charge against only this is selfish and completely degrades your argument.

"There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes". Your ancestors should slap the shit out of you for saying that. They answered their nations call no matter how wrong it may have been in hindsight. I don't agree with the war I fought in but I'd never degrade the sacrifices I made or that my brothers did. We volunteered to fight for our nation, no matter the cause. There may not have been glory as a nation, but there was glory and heroes among the men that fought it. Wars have not changed at all since this moment and never will. We bombed mercilessly in WWII, Vietnam, and present day. Do you think the people that we bombed in Iraq and AFG felt different than those men in the trenches? They had nothing to defend themselves against our technology and weaponry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the First World War. How dare you act like your sacrifice is different than any other generation or any other nation. You put your foot down when it comes to this, but not when it effects others? What kind of coward are you? This is where you draw the line? If you have a principle, stand up for it in full, no when it casts an ugly light on the actions of your ancestors.

I'm not sure what I think of their handling of this yet. As I posted earlier...



But if you are going to cry foul to this, cry foul to the whole industry, for everyone that would be effected, not just your own. This war is unique in scale only. Time will tell if they've handled this properly. It's clear from this thread that there's plenty of misinformation about this war, and the game has probably already resulted in more people going out to learn about i than anything else. Wouldn't reminding the public of the atrocities do more good than harm? Besides reminding you how shameful it makes you of your countries history?

Nice post mate

 

[The Faceless Master]

If i'm not mistaken, didn't that game get announced like a year or two after Fallujah? Desert Storm was 25 years ago and WW1 was 100 years. Some time has to pass first.

That game was being made while the US was still fighting in Iraq at full speed. This is undeniably different.

The sentiments behind that are more understandable because it is very recent history, especially in 2009.

moving those goalposts.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I would recommend watching the Great War youtube channel for more info on this war.

 

[Portugeezer]

moving those goalposts.

non-response

 

[AusRoachman]

Would love to have heard the battlefield theme , but otherwise a fantastic trailer . Seems to cover lots of theatres of war which should be fantastic .

After seeing battlefront in action this could definitely all be in game .

 

[The Faceless Master]

non-response

1 less than u

 

[chrominance]

I didn't have the same visceral reaction, but I do understand some of the offense to how Battlefield 1 is portrayed for a few reasons. First, the reveal for Battlefield 1 has a very different tone than the Call of Duty series did at the start. Contrast the Battlefield 1 trailer with this commercial for Call of Duty: Finest Hour. The latter has a much more somber and reverent tone that seems more in keeping with how the general public saw World War II at the time. We were still not far off from the release of Saving Private Ryan, which was the biggest spectacle of a World War II movie but also took great pains to communicate the horrors, psychological and physical, of war. The Battlefield 1 trailer is all spectacle, no horror, and this is for a war that was arguably just as bloody and horrific, if not more so.

Second, I'm not sure how World War I is seen in the United States, but in Canada, most of what we see, read and hear about World War I outside of school comes from Remembrance Day. Memorial Day in the States seems to be a thinly veiled excuse for displays of patriotism and mattress sales (except, I hope and assume, for veterans and those that care about them), but every Remembrance Day service I've seen is about paying testament to those who gave their lives in military conflict, regardless of side, and working towards a future where war is ancient history. When the national conversation about World War I focuses on how we must never let anything like it happen again, it shapes your perceptions of that war. World War II has a much greater volume of popular culture that defies this perception--everything from The Great Escape to Inglourious Basterds--but World War I is still largely a historical artifact with little in the way of modern popular culture to re-imagine it. What does exist tends to fall into the same categories: stories of great loss and suffering, of courage under fire, of horror and death and destruction without meaning. I'm sure there's something like The Great Escape or Hogan's Heroes that's set in World War I (the last season of Blackadder?) but it's definitely not nearly as easy to find. Maybe Lawrence of Arabia counts, though (caveat: I haven't watched it myself).

I'm not going to tell anyone who buys it that they should be ashamed of themselves. I mean, I actually own a copy of Battlefield: Hardline, and that marketing campaign was in many ways equally offensive about horrible things happening right now. But it is worth thinking about why people would react that way and whether their concerns are valid. If nothing else, it's interesting to see where the zeitgeist is now compared to when Call of Duty was just starting out.

 

[legacyzero]

I think that guy's reaction is very overblown, but also think it's kind of a odd mindset to be dismissive with a "it was a 100 years ago, who cares how the conflict is portrayed" attitude

Maybe that's just the history buff in me. Like the crazily offended reaction isn't called for, but the "so what, it was a while ago" reaction is pretty bad too

Regardless of how games have portrayed war in the past doesn't mean they should always portray those conflicts as such, not should we be so dismissive because...video games.

actually, quite a few people on GAF felt that way about the Fallujah game that eventually got canned.

We go right back to timing there, I think. Fallujah was fresh. Recent. Was still a deep cut. Hell, even 9/11 was still an open wound.

We're not being dismissive to the idea of war and it's portrayal (Especially in a glorification sense). The dismissiveness comes from it being an ok subject matter to address in any manner of media. Time should make a difference.

I'm a history buff too. (Moreso for WW2). And that wasn't much later after WW1. Look at a game like COD: World at War. That game's portrayal, while trying to lean accurately, came off as really visceral, and edgy.

If anything, making games and movies about our previous wars is a GREAT thing, and it brings attention to the material.

Example: I never learned about the Chernobyl incident. Had no idea what happened, other than it happened. Guess how I learned. Modern Warfare 1. I was so excited to find out that the game was based on a real event, that I spent WEEKS researching it.

So I'm dismissive, because (without trivializing war, and all those lost) it's just not a valid argument IMO.

 

[D i Z]

People are so easily pleased. We saw... 1 minute worth of "footage" and everyone is inexplicably hype. It's going to be hilarious when the final product is grossly underwhelming.

Well, you're no fun.

 

[VincentMatts]

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[captjohnboyd]

They never said this lol. And we certainly didn't see it. I'm sure destruction is back, but strongly doubt it's anything like bad company.

Jackfrags said they said it lol. In his video he explicitly states they told him the level of destruction was more than Bf3-4 but not quite as much as BC2

 

[packy34]

moving those goalposts.

Uh, no? Explain to me how setting a game in a war that took place 100 years ago carries the same emotional weight as a game set in a war that's happening literally at this very moment.