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Nvidia announces Geforce GTX 10 Series - GTX1080 - $599 - May 27th, GTX1070 = $379

Durante

Member
The chip is less complex than you could think from the die size. 2560 SPs is a really low number for a chip of 7.2B of transistors though - I wonder if the FP64 performance is kept at 1/2 FP32 like in GP100?
I don't think that's very likely at all.
If anything, I'd assume those transistors include a significant amount of redundancy to allow them to reach these (to me at least) very unexpected price levels.

I have I5-4670 CPU, is the 1070 overkill for my slightly older CPU?
There are a lot of questions like this one popping up and the answer will always depend on the game, and the target graphics options and framerate.
 

mike6467

Member
Well, time to hunker down and get ready for several days/weeks of refreshing. I need to find a way to get one of these, my current card has been having issues and I'm not really looking to put something else in there in the interim.
 

Alexious

Member
Less than I hoped performance wise but less than I thought price wise. I'll have to see how the OC editions will perform compared to 980TiOC to decide if I want to upgrade.

The chip is less complex than you could think from the die size. 2560 SPs is a really low number for a chip of 7.2B of transistors though - I wonder if the FP64 performance is kept at 1/2 FP32 like in GP100?

9TFlops is a nice figure for a stock clocks though - +50% to TitanX. If the card will be able to OC to 2100MHz on factory OC models that'd bump the pure math power to 10.75 TFlops. Not bad for what is a lower high end card.

1070 on the other hand gets quite a decimation with 6.5 TFlops. If the clocks will be roughly the same (which they're likely to be judging from 970 vs 980) they'll have to chop nearly 1/3 of the chip off to get there. So I'm thinking - 1920 SPs on ~1.7GHz? Seems like quite a salvage there but for $379 I don't think that anyone would mind.

As for the proper benchmarks - I'm guessing on May 27th? Still don't see why they even announced the cards today tbh.

Yeah, I guess its saving grace could be overclocking if there really is so much room.
 

AmyS

Member
Okay here's what I think should be clarified, can someone help?

Nvidia's Big Pascal GP100 for the Telsa P100 (and future 2017 graphic cards) has the following performance:

The Tesla P100 features a slightly cut back GP100 GPU and delivers 5.3 teraflops of double precision compute, 10.6 TFLOPS of single precision compute and 21.2 TFLOPS of half precision FP16 compute.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gpu-gtc-2016/#ixzz47vzgolUL

The GTX 1080 is the GP104 GPU with 9 TFLOPs right, but I assume that's single precision FP32 ?
 

JBwB

Member
So I'm guessing the retail price for the 1070 in Australia will be somewhere in the $500-550 range? Totally okay with that.
 

paskowitz

Member
As good as these number are, I will be waiting for the 1080 Ti. HBM2 + a die shrink should be absolutely insane and easily provide 4K gaming at a high refresh rate.
 

J-Rzez

Member
My 780's fate is sealed. Question is do I go for a 1080 (VR/144hz gaming), or go 1070 for now and go Ti (HBM2) when released?

Also, when is AMD's show? I need to know ASAP what they're doing. I'm guessing they need to show off something and fast. They can't afford to tell people to wait and see because people are going to run out for especially that 1070...
 

Tagyhag

Member
I bought a 960 around September as a stepping stone for Pascal, and I was going to wait for the 2nd set of cards.

At that price I'm buying the 1070. Fuck waiting.
 

wbEMX

Member
I'll happily sell my 970 for a 1070 if DX12 performance will be much better. Digital Foundry to the rescue!
 

Renekton

Member
My 780's fate is sealed. Question is do I go for a 1080 (VR/144hz gaming), or go 1070 for now and go Ti (HBM2) when released?

Also, when is AMD's show? I need to know ASAP what they're doing. I'm guessing they need to show off something and fast. They can't afford to tell people to wait and see because people are going to run out for especially that 1070...
AMD will very likely go for lower affordable segments.

I'll happily sell my 970 for a 1070 if DX12 performance will be much better. Digital Foundry to the rescue!
But they would have to use controversial benchmarks like Ashes and Quantum Break.
 

Chris R

Member
I need benchmarks ASAP so I can decide on the 1070 or if I splurge on the 1080.

The 1080 would probably be a better card for 1440p@144hz... And ramen is actually pretty good.
 

sk3tch

Member
Great :) just thinking these will make for highly appealing VR laptops... Can't wait

Definitely. I had a 980M laptop and it was beast - but just missing the little oomph for 120Hz/144Hz MP FPS gaming...now we will have the best of all worlds in a mobile package. The 1080M is going to be INSANE. Can bring my Vive to parties. ;)
 
Wow that is great news but now i'm in a tight spot. I ordered an HP pc with a 980ti for $1200 but it doesn't ship till Tuesday. Should I just cancel that and order a 1080 or will it most likely be sold out at launch?

depends how much you are on the internet

Like any high price electronic, as long as you are on the internet everyday you will eventually get one

I've survived trying to get both an asus ROG swift and a acer x34, along with 970's and 980ti's this way

If you are determined, you will get them ( as long as you have the money)
 
So the 1080 at the end of may and the 1070 in the beginning of june will only have reference coolers right? When might we see custom coolers?
 

jsrv

Member
This makes me glad I skipped Maxwell but these will probably be sold out for a while with massive price markups everywhere
 
Going to be upgrading to a 1080 on this system. Wondering if I need to worry about anything else bottlenecking, or can I just swap out my GPUs?

CPU: i5 2500k @4.4ghz
RAM: 12gb DDR3 1333mhz
GPU: GTX 570

Thanks in advance for any advice. I'm thinking others might be wondering the same with their system as well.
 
The new king of Steam Hardware Survey arrives. GTX 970 had an amazing run, sitting on top of the SHS almost since it's original launch. Step aside 970, for the 1070 has landed.

I'm pretty much in for a 1080 if it can offer >50% performance over my 980 Ti in non-VR applications. Yes, this is OK if I require an OC to achieve this, that demo one was running at 2144 mhz on the stream LMAO.
 

Oxn

Member
My 780's fate is sealed. Question is do I go for a 1080 (VR/144hz gaming), or go 1070 for now and go Ti (HBM2) when released?

Also, when is AMD's show? I need to know ASAP what they're doing. I'm guessing they need to show off something and fast. They can't afford to tell people to wait and see because people are going to run out for especially that 1070...

Hmmmmm, you have a very sound plan there.

Go 1070 now and get a 1080Ti, better than my plan of 1080 SLI
 

Alexious

Member
Less than I hoped performance wise but less than I thought price wise. I'll have to see how the OC editions will perform compared to 980TiOC to decide if I want to upgrade.

The chip is less complex than you could think from the die size. 2560 SPs is a really low number for a chip of 7.2B of transistors though - I wonder if the FP64 performance is kept at 1/2 FP32 like in GP100?

9TFlops is a nice figure for a stock clocks though - +50% to TitanX. If the card will be able to OC to 2100MHz on factory OC models that'd bump the pure math power to 10.75 TFlops. Not bad for what is a lower high end card.

1070 on the other hand gets quite a decimation with 6.5 TFlops. If the clocks will be roughly the same (which they're likely to be judging from 970 vs 980) they'll have to chop nearly 1/3 of the chip off to get there. So I'm thinking - 1920 SPs on ~1.7GHz? Seems like quite a salvage there but for $379 I don't think that anyone would mind.

As for the proper benchmarks - I'm guessing on May 27th? Still don't see why they even announced the cards today tbh.

If 1080 is better than 980 sli, then maybe 1080ti is better than 980ti sli?

Again, 1080 is not better than 980SLI. That statement only holds true in regards to simultaneous reprojection in VR, but performance gains are sadly much lower in normal gaming as showed in the graph on the official site.
 
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