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[Shadow Broker]

Meh...

 

[Kyzer]

Keeping it to perfect double strengths every time would greatly restrict starter options. They should not follow any pattern

 

[Neoleo2143]

The problem with super good graphics and animations in Pokemon is that, after the first impression, all it really does it to make the battles slow and tedious.

I actually enjoy what they've got in X and Y, it's a nice mix between Flair and snappiness.

Also, I don't want secondary triangles, I want variety and it looks like the Type variety for the Starters might turn out quite nicely if litten and popplio get the types there.

On rotations and triples, Triples is kinda boring and frustrating, but Rotations are legitimately amazing. You can do so much cool stuff and the mindgames get insane.

 

[Kinsei]

Keeping it to perfect double strengths every time would greatly restrict starter options. They should not follow any pattern

I agree.

 

[entremet]

I loved the fighting, dark, psychic secondary typing of the Kalos Starters.

GF addressed that long rumored typing for starters and flipped the switch by keeping the classic Grass, Fire, Water primary typings as well.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I like the idea I've seen that Popplio's evolution will focus on "ball-based" moves (what Bulletproof, Chesnaught's HA, resists) such as Focus Blast and Aura Sphere, tying into it possibly becoming Water/Fighting. Like a playful juggler/fighter, that'd be pretty rad.

No fucking clue how Fire/Ground would work for Litten---you know I actually considered Fennekin evolving into Fire/Ground early on, a literal "Desert Fox".

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

No fucking clue how Fire/Ground would work for Litten

It is brimstone (sulfur) themed, so that's where the presumed Ground-type comes in.

 

[DeployThatPizza]

I like the idea I've seen that Popplio's evolution will focus on "ball-based" moves (what Bulletproof, Chesnaught's HA, resists) such as Focus Blast and Aura Sphere, tying into it possibly becoming Water/Fighting. Like a playful juggler/fighter, that'd be pretty rad.

No fucking clue how Fire/Ground would work for Litten---you know I actually considered Fennekin evolving into Fire/Ground early on, a literal "Desert Fox".

It would probably be based on a volcano theme.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

It would probably be based on a volcano theme.

Nah that would be too similar to the other Fire/Ground types, Camerupt and Primal Groudon.

 

[Razmos]

Someone posted the typings earlier and I don't think those belong to the starters.

Some random over-enthusiastic youtuber made a video on it and said "I discovered this!" So it's totes official now.

Pokemon speculation youtubers are cringey as hell, honestly. So much speculation passed off as fact, it's annoying

 

[Delio]

Yeah the ordering of the typing comes up again. Ground wouldn't be before Fire if it was for Litten. So it has to be for Rowlett. I'm okay with Litten being Fire/Ground of course but now im wondering if it will just stay pure Fire next to the other two having dual typing.

 

[ffdgh]

Yeah the ordering of the typing comes up again. Ground wouldn't be before Fire if it was for Litten. So it has to be for Rowlett. I'm okay with Litten being Fire/Ground of course but now im wondering if it will just stay pure Fire next to the other two having dual typing.

Would be cool if litten stayed pure fire. Typhlosion is the only fire starter to stay pure fire...not that that proves anything of course.

 

[ColtraineGF]

Didn't we already go through the resource naming thing in either this thread or the other ones?

As I said before, it's unlikely that they would put up these typings in the order that they would be in, given how far out from release the games are, and primary/secondary type switching inconsistency. Most likely they are going to be used soon for other reveals.

 

[jelmerjt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivaRqb0oEsE

 

[Delio]

Would be cool if litten stayed pure fire. Typhlosion is the only fire starter to stay pure fire...not that that proves anything of course.

I mean it's fine I wouldnt be against it but I would have liked it to have another type to it.

Also yeah the guy going "I JUST DISCOVERED IT TODAY" is silly when it showed up days ago.

 

[Siege.exe]

Why do people seem so willing to accept that Rowlet would suddenly just lose it's Flying secondary type in favor of Ground? Just because it probably isn't meant for Litten doesn't mean it's meant for Rowlet either.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

Why do people seem so willing to accept that Rowlet would suddenly just lose it's Flying secondary type in favor of Ground? Just because it probably isn't meant for Litten doesn't mean it's meant for Rowlet either.

Because IRL there is a type of owl that burrows in the ground, so that would be a neat concept for Rowlet to evolve into. Also another Grass/Ground type besides Torterra (the only one in existence) is long overdue.

 

[ASIS]

Honestly I've been having an idea looming about for a while. But why not make the starters... you know, suck? They could be useful for the first chapters in the game but after that the game should force you to abandon your starter in favor of other pokemon.

I know I'll be in an extreme minority but I would really like to see how that would shake up the formula for single player.

 

[Neoleo2143]

Honestly I've been having an idea looming about for a while. But why not make the starters... you know, suck? They could be useful for the first chapters in the game but after that the game should force you to abandon your starter in favor of other pokemon.

I know I'll be in an extreme minority but I would really like to see how that would shake up the formula for single player.

So like Black and White? All the Starters there are weaker relatively.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Honestly I've been having an idea looming about for a while. But why not make the starters... you know, suck? They could be useful for the first chapters in the game but after that the game should force you to abandon your starter in favor of other pokemon.

I know I'll be in an extreme minority but I would really like to see how that would shake up the formula for single player.

The Pokemon Yellow experience.

 

[Delio]

Why do people seem so willing to accept that Rowlet would suddenly just lose it's Flying secondary type in favor of Ground? Just because it probably isn't meant for Litten doesn't mean it's meant for Rowlet either.

I'm not really jumping on this as concrete or anything until we know for sure but as long as it keeps Grass type losing flying wont matter right?

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

Honestly I've been having an idea looming about for a while. But why not make the starters... you know, suck? They could be useful for the first chapters in the game but after that the game should force you to abandon your starter in favor of other pokemon.

I know I'll be in an extreme minority but I would really like to see how that would shake up the formula for single player.

You should play gen V because that's exactly what they did for that gen. So your idea has already been used. Those starters were best to be boxed at the earliest opportunity. Unless you kept Samurott around as an HM Slave, but that's its only use.

 

[Charlie0108]

What's the point in making Rowlet Flying type if they're just going to take it away? Why not just leave it pure Grass?

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

What's the point in making Rowlet Flying type if they're just going to take it away? Why not just leave it pure Grass?

Because it'd be a cool surprise and a novel concept (though not entirely unique, considering Altaria loses its Flying-type when it Mega Evolves).

 

[Siege.exe]

Because IRL there is a type of owl that burrows in the ground, so that would be a neat concept for Rowlet to evolve into. Also another Grass/Ground type besides Torterra (the only one in existence) is long overdue.

And if Rowlet were pure grass, I'd be much more willing to accept that argument. It already has its secondary typing though, and I think it's extremely unlikely that it would be dropped.

 

[The12thGripper]

Apparently the secondary types of Litten's and Popplio's evolved forms might've gotten leaked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4jg3vd/smo_major_spoilers_litten_and_popplios_final_evo/

They're

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Ground

and

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Fighting

respectively.

GAF > Internet > GAF

 

[DeployThatPizza]

And if Rowlet were pure grass, I'd be much more willing to accept that argument. It already has its secondary typing though, and I think it's extremely unlikely that it would be dropped.

Other pokemon have done it before, so it's not that unlikely. IRL, the ground owl burrows into the ground, so the ground typing makes sense.

 

[ffdgh]

What's the point in making Rowlet Flying type if they're just going to take it away? Why not just leave it pure Grass?

Wouldn't be the first time a pokemon randomly changed type upon evolving.
But seriously, who knows. Only can guess at this point until november.

 

[ASIS]

So like Black and White? All the Starters there are weaker relatively.

You should play gen V because that's exactly what they did for that gen. So your idea has already been used. Those starters were best to be boxed at the earliest opportunity. Unless you kept Samurott around as an HM Slave, but that's its only use.

Well shit.. That's probably the only gen I skipped, I still hate gen V with a passion . But how did it effect the game overall? positively or negatively?

The Pokemon Yellow experience.

No way Pikachu was badass.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

And if Rowlet were pure grass, I'd be much more willing to accept that argument. It already has its secondary typing though, and I think it's extremely unlikely that it would be dropped.

They've been experimenting more and more with typings lately, like Pyroar and Heliolisk having Normal as a secondary type for the first time ever and Noivern having Flying as its primary type for the first time ever (and a gen before that the first mono Flying-type, Tornadus). I wouldn't put turning a Flying-type into a Ground-type upon evolution past them at this point. It's a neat concept.

 

[Neoleo2143]

Well shit.. That's probably the only gen I skipped, I still hate gen V with a passion . But how did it effect the game overall? positively or negatively?
.

It's my favorite gen of pokemon overall soooooo. Seriously though, set battle Gen V is hella awesome. Do give it a try.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

What's the point in making Rowlet Flying type if they're just going to take it away?

To apologize for the time they fucked over Surskit by making its evolution part-Flying.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

To apologize for the time they fucked over Surskit by making its evolution part-Flying.

Same with Nincada. Both in gen III, incidentally. Two unique Bug typings (/Water and /Ground), and neither of them fully evolved or ever repeated again in the entire series. Smh, Game Freak...

 

[Cloud Strife]

Ground eh? Poison would be so much better though

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Since first seeing Rowlett, I've been convinced they would change secondary typing. Ground would be interesting tho.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

Since first seeing Rowlett, I've been convinced they would change secondary typing. Ground would be interesting tho.

It is also quite novel that it even starts out as a dual-type in the first place, since that's only the second time it has happened in 20 years. The other instance dating back all the way to the beginning with Bulbasaur, and then never again until 20 years later.

 

[Siege.exe]

I'm just saying that it's not nearly as likely as some of you are making it out to be

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, or all that interesting or cool of a thing for them to do

. Even they do have such a change planned, I don't think that this list of 5 types is the thing that will give it away.

Also, at least in the past (Ninjask, Scizor, Steelix, Masquerain, etc.), those type changes came alongside significant physical change. Rowlet is probably not going to stop being an owl any time soon, so changing it to a ground type just because there's a type of owl that burrows underground, which Rowlet could very well not evolve into by the way, doesn't feel like that good of a reason to do it.

 

[Puruzi]

Rowlet getting a different secondary typing is the only thing that would make it usable so I hope it does for the Rowlet people out there

 

[Charlie0108]

Pure Fire Litten feels so boring, especially given its design could lend itself to various types.

 

[ASIS]

It's my favorite gen of pokemon overall soooooo. Seriously though, set battle Gen V is hella awesome. Do give it a try.

It's good to hear that my idea held some water then at least .

But I might give it another go, i have this strange connection with Pokemon games where my love or hate for them do not depend solely on the games quality, but also on my private life, and 2010 was... well it wasn't the best year for me. Things are much better now though, so there's that.

 

[Boss Doggie]

They're both bad, save for the few flashy backgrounds like Lysandre 3 and Wally.

I disagree on the grounds that XY battles at least have some sort of background event. In ORAS it was bland.

 

[jnWake]

It'd be pretty funny if the next Pokémon to be revealed are Ground and Fighting, using the icons from the site.

 

[tenderbrew]

First time I'm hearing people didn't like x and y. Loved those guys.

 

[GoldStarz]

Well shit.. That's probably the only gen I skipped, I still hate gen V with a passion . But how did it effect the game overall? positively or negatively?

ya okeys

also most people kept their starter. generally starters are more their for emotional bond than power imo.

It is also quite novel that it even starts out as a dual-type in the first place, since that's only the second time it has happened in 20 years. The other instance dating back all the way to the beginning with Bulbasaur, and then never again until 20 years later.

Which is why I think it'd be dumb. Rowlet isn't even a Burrowing Owl, it's a Barn Owl.

Rowlet getting a different secondary typing is the only thing that would make it usable so I hope it does for the Rowlet people out there

Right, I forgot that Ice was the strongest and most used type right now and that one of the most-used Pokemon wasn't a fragile bird with 4x weakness that can be easily exploited through entry hazards.

wait.

 

[L95]

Mm, honestly, I liked XY at first, but then the newness wore off, and TBH, XY/ORAS actually feel really lackluster looking back on them.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

It'd be pretty funny if the next Pokémon to be revealed are Ground and Fighting, using the icons from the site.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but they're in a directory specifically related to the starters.

 

[Puruzi]

Right, I forgot that Ice was the strongest and most used type right now and that one of the most-used Pokemon wasn't a fragile bird with 4x weakness that can be easily exploited through entry hazards.

wait.

grass as a type is already not great at all and grass flying is even worse

5 weaknesses with one being x4 is not good

Talonflame got lucky with that obnoxious gale wings ability, if Rowlet doesn't get some excellent ability it's totally fucked.

 

[Macka]

IAlso, at least in the past (Ninjask, Scizor, Steelix, Masquerain, etc.), those type changes came alongside significant physical change. Rowlet is probably not going to stop being an owl any time soon, so changing it to a ground type just because there's a type of owl that burrows underground, which Rowlet could very well not evolve into by the way, doesn't feel like that good of a reason to do it.

Look at it this way.

If Rowlet was pure Grass right now, it would be kinda weird, right? It's an owl. It can obviously fly. They didn't really have a choice but to give it the Flying sub-type. Upon evolution however, I could see it losing the ability to fly through significant physical change as you mentioned. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but it's possible.

 

[Beyonce Beytwice]

If Rowlet was pure Grass right now, it would be kinda weird, right? It's an owl. It can obviously fly. They didn't really have a choice but to give it the Flying sub-type.

Yeah, that always bothered me with Spritzee.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Right, I forgot that Ice was the strongest and most used type right now and that one of the most-used Pokemon wasn't a fragile bird with 4x weakness that can be easily exploited through entry hazards.

wait.

Talonflame is fast though, and has Gale Wings.

It doesn't feel like Rowlet is the fastest of the trio.