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Is E3 becoming pointless?

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Ansatz

Member
For me yes because I'm no longer interested in the games that companies typically bring with them to E3. The only game I've purchased this year was The Witness (goat) and I'm cautiously looking forward to Bloodstained and Yooka-Laylee.

I'm curious to see how things are developing over at Platinum, Scalebound to be more specific. I'm not gonna judge it yet, I'll just say some of the design choices left me skeptical.

TLoZ is my second favorite franchise behind Super Mario, and I'm sure there will be stuff in it that excites me but the open world concept leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
 
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tareqsalah1

Member
There isnt enough time during the conferrence to show all the games and announce all the new games, so some of these announcements are made the week of e3.

Also some of these announcements actually make me want to watch certain shows that otherwise i wouldnt think of watching.

Its all part of e3.

E3 is not just the days of the conferences its the week before and the week after.
 
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visiblemode

Member
No. It's awesome. Tired of people making this argument.

Announcements, conferences, and hype. It's great and has a purpose. The intentional leaks just go to show how much weight the event carries.
 
Teletraan1

Teletraan1

Banned
If there was no E3 then all these big leaks you are complaining about wouldn't leak because there would be nothing to leak, they would just be standard press releases drizzled out over the course of the year. It is the big event that spurs on the leakers. It is a chicken and egg dilemma.
 
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Jacksinthe

Banned
Patryn said:
For the consumer, increasingly there isn't really a point. As companies start having their own events where they know they can have an entire press cycle to themselves, we'll start seeing game announcements more spread out.

For the industry, having a major trade show still allows them to draw mainstream news outlets like the New York Times and the Washington Post out to cover the industry in greater detail than they normally do.

In addition, from what I understand a lot of business is conducted behind closed doors simply because you're bringing most of the players into the same area.

However, as the mainstream press holds less and less sway, and as more and more companies realize that E3 is not worth the expense, both these reasons will fade away.

I suspect if E3 still exists in a decade (and that's increasingly becoming a big if), it will look nothing like it does today.
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This sums up my thoughts perfectly. Thank you.
 
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Man-is-Obsolete

Member
Most of the news so far has been get the "bad news" out of the way prior to E3. Also it is smart to plant seeds the week prior and then show something new during E3. For Horizon and P5 both have said there is a lot more to show at E3.

Games only get 5-10 minutes of stage time, so spending a fraction of that with bad news of a delay isn't ideal. Get that out the week before and focus your stage demo on the game itself.

As for E3 dying, I think that relates almost entirely to just the showfloor aspect of it. That gets easily remedied by allowing a public day or two.
 
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Jumeira

Banned
no lol. This forum will be lit on fire then have bombs after bombs dropped on it during E3. What are you smoking, this is just pre match warm-up like every year.

If your a Nintendo fan, well...yup.... Turn into a Sony/MS fan.
 
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ironcreed

Banned
Not hardly. I still look forward to all of the reveals and game footage that lead up to the holidays and the next year. Best time to be a gamer.
 
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PillarEN

Member
Not everything that leaks on GAF is known by everyone in the world. There are plenty of people who like games but don't read the websites/ message boards daily. Most of my friends who are into games are likely to be much more surprised by E3 than myself and it's not like they are clueless.
 
Blueingreen

Blueingreen

Member
Xav said:
It's becoming pointless.

Why spend loads on marketing, demos, booths, etc only to share the spotlight with tons of other games.

I don't think E3 offers the visibilty it once used to. In this day in age we have social media and word of mouth gets around quick.

The Battlefield 1 reveal on Youtube has over 37 million views. Would it really have been better if EA saved the reveal for E3?

Nintendo has the right idea with their directs. In fact, the major publishers should just do their thing in their own time and space.
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Those 37 million are gonna tune into E3 for some gameplay, and given the unfortunate relevancy of Nintendo right now in the current market, using their absence in E3 as a positive is absolutely ludicrous. E3 is christmas for gamer's it even attains coverage on mainstream media, it's an extremely powerful and important stage in conveying the direction that a company/publisher will be taking in the following year to investors and consumer's alike.
 
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Stuart444

Member
Most announcements come before E3 anyway, the press conferences are pre-E3 press conferences after all.

E3 is usually all trailers, showcasing stuff to people on the show floor, interviews with journalists, etc. In a way, it's not really pointless since it still gets the games major coverage and a chance for those visiting to interview the companies and stuff.

Generates a lot of hype which is the whole point of it really.
 
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Hilarion

Member
I'd be happy if E3 lost its position as THE show and all the reveals were broken up and sent to various shows throughout the course of the year. It's ridiculous to concentrate this much stuff into a week.

E3 is pretty terrible anyways, I really hope it dies in the next few years.
 
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Vetro

Member
ironcreed said:
Not hardly. I still look forward to all of the reveals and game footage that lead up to the holidays and the next year. Best time to be a gamer.
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Syntsui

Member
If you didn't follow up on Neogaf/specialized sites you wouldn't know shit about the leaks. By the time E3 happens, the new releases will be all over mainstream media and many more people will be hyped.
 
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Vetro

Member
Well this year will be some kind of a game changer for console gaming at least. Because of the PS4K XBOXonetwo thing.
 
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Nere

Member
I really don't like the announcements a few days before E3. At least with leaks you don't know if they are true so you might not take them seriously but the announcements take away the excitment of seeing a game announced live on E3. At least that is my opinion.
 
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duckroll

Member
E3 is not an event for people who read news at home wanting to see "all the hypes" or go "OMG OMG OMG OMG" during some live conference. If that's all it is for you, then yes, it is pointless... for you. But it's not for you. It's a trade event for industry networking, for publishers, developers, and various companies to schedule events for press and partners, etc. If you think there is no reason to hold it, then you don't understand what it really is.
 
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MightyHedgehog

Member
Oblivion said:
But this type of Pre-E3 is a fairly recent thing. It wasn't always like this.
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This spreading out of info is to make sure everyone exhibiting and dealing in product can get into the news cycle without being drowned out the days when everything big happens at once. No one is going to hear a stick of dynamite going off when nukes were dropped.
 
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The_Lump

Banned
It has the same point it always had: shmooze the press/media.

All that's changed is we can now get the same news/info but much more freely and quickly (via social media/streaming) than we can from more conventional - and more controlled - press outlets.

IMO for e3 to survive into this new age of instant information, it needs to change it's approach and I think it's starting to happen (either voluntarily or through lack of choice). It needs to become much more of a fan-centric event, built around live, engaging coverage and interactivity - rather than just stale stage shows and pressers.

RX-78-2 said:
So it's for the press? How do they manage the rest of the year if E3 provides them with such a necessary service?
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You could really say this about any expo though, tbh. They came into existence out of necessity, when information moved more slowly and when face-to-face networking was still king (it still is in many industries). They exist today because they are nice things to have.
 
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mikefrails

Banned
duckroll said:
E3 is not an event for people who read news at home wanting to see "all the hypes" or go "OMG OMG OMG OMG" during some live conference. If that's all it is for you, then yes, it is pointless... for you. But it's not for you. It's a trade event for industry networking, for publishers, developers, and various companies to schedule events for press and partners, etc. If you think there is no reason to hold it, then you don't understand what it really is.
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So it's for the press? How do they manage the rest of the year if E3 provides them with such a necessary service?
 
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old manatee

Banned
I would love it people stopped caring about e3. It's embarrassing watching everybody slurp up marketing bs and regurgitate it all over each other.
 
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Gator86

Member
I just want games, and to a lesser extent, game news. If I can get that outside of a ridiculously overdone press conference full of bad jokes, hysterical nerds, and still suits, the better.
 
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mikefrails

Banned
Krejlooc said:
Literally yes. E3 is a tradeshow for publications, developers, and press.



E3 isn't the only tradeshow of the year
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But to say that's all it is though? Companies go with the intention of hyping consumers as well. I'd even say it beats out any merit the show has as a press event. I mean companies are pulling out more and more in favor of directing focus to people like us. The writing is on the wall.
 
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The_Lump

Banned
RX-78-2 said:
But to say that's all it is though? Companies go with the intention of hyping consumers as well. I'd even say it beats out any merit the show has as a press event. I mean companies are pulling out more and more in favor of directing focus to people like us. The writing is on the wall.
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This is true. e3 has morphed beyond a trade show over the years and, commercially, has probably become more important as a consumer event than a media event. I personally think it needs to embrace this fully.

So to answer the OP: it hasn't become pointless, it's point has probably just changed.
 
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MightyHedgehog

Member
The Exploder said:
I would love it people stopped caring about e3. It's embarrassing watching everybody slurp up marketing bs and regurgitate it all over each other.
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It's marketing BS, but it's also timed info dumps and reveals of stuff they already like and stuff they probably will like. Nothing wrong with caring about that which you are invested in as a fan and consumer. The way people react and treat each other, though, can be a different story. E3 is just a concentrated dose of what goes on all year, anyway.
 
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Tecnniqe

Banned
duckroll said:
E3 is not an event for people who read news at home wanting to see "all the hypes" or go "OMG OMG OMG OMG" during some live conference. If that's all it is for you, then yes, it is pointless... for you. But it's not for you. It's a trade event for industry networking, for publishers, developers, and various companies to schedule events for press and partners, etc. If you think there is no reason to hold it, then you don't understand what it really is.
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While E3 might be a more industry and press I do think having a open day for people to toy around with the announced items would be a great addition to the show after all the press stuff.



I prefer snarking on twitter about the industry being the industry and games journalists falling off their chairs during announcements.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
RX-78-2 said:
But to say that's all it is though? Companies go with the intention of hyping consumers as well. I'd even say it beats out any merit the show has as a press event. I mean companies are pulling out more and more in favor of directing focus to people like us. The writing is on the wall.
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Pulling out what? They're announcing small teasers for games and then showing gameplay videos at E3.
 
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