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7th Dragon III – Code: VFD |OT| Of Seiyuus and Seiryuus

spiritfox

Member
Can someone give me the run down on Skills ? The manual mentions Samurai using stance changing skills but I can't see any Stance Change skills in their skill list, just 2 skills that are Unsheathed.

Is there some kind of research / quests you have to do to unlock class skills ? And isn't it a bit weird to hide key character skills ?

Minor spoilers:
You unlock more skills later on.
 

Meffer

Member
Can someone give me the run down on Skills ? The manual mentions Samurai using stance changing skills but I can't see any Stance Change skills in their skill list, just 2 skills that are Unsheathed.

Is there some kind of research / quests you have to do to unlock class skills ? And isn't it a bit weird to hide key character skills ?
The Samurai's stance changes depending on what type of sword they wield which are the single swords and the duel-wield swords. So duel-wield swords can only use duel wield skills. And vice versa, though you can only change equipment in the menu and not in battle. Honestly I find dual wield swords are better.
 

Meffer

Member
On a side note, I love the female duelist's victory animation. It moves along with the victory music so well I wonder if that was on purpose.
 

Sylas

Member
Is there a reason to use Samurai once you unlock other classes?

Putting it under a spoiler I guess. I'm finding my setup of God Hand, Fortuner, Duelist basically wipes everything up. Granted, I haven't finished Atlantis yet. Debating tossing my Rune Knight onto the front row, but his buddy skill stacks up real well with the Duelist.

I'm adoring this game by the way. I really enjoy the 2nd team setup, even if my middle member on the 2nd team always seems to take forever to build up their support/buddy skill. Not sure what that's about or just who I have slotted there. It's like a much more accessible Etrian Odyssey without losing all of the depth.
 
I was down on this game after playing an hour of the demo....but I forgot to cancel my preorder. Now that I have the full thing, Its pretty damn great aside from looking like a really good DS game. Once the systems started rolling out, I really got into it.
 
having a butler that heals and punches things to death is the coolest class

a little bummed that new characters don't get the 1000 sp that my demo characters got
 

spiritfox

Member
Chapter 5+
I'm missing enough DZ to finish all the rooms before the point of no return. Is that suppose to happen? There are no more dragons left to kill.
 

Avallon

Member
Just unlocked skills.

There's more than just the starter list, right? Duelist is pretty underwhelming. Are there skills that use more than 2 cards? Otherwise I'm gonna start over and reclass my main heroine.

Also, can you max everything or do I have to be careful with skill points.
 

tuffymon

Member
I'm going to assume you can max everything, it's not like etrian where you got points per level up, but you get points after battle (except the first tutorial level area)
 

Parham

Banned
If you place the cursor over the Class option, you may notice that you can't do that until reaching level 30.

I'm not sure if there are any benefits to doing so (like in Dragon Quest IX for example) since you can just make whatever characters you like and delete the ones you don't.

What tripped me up was this bit in the OP:

The demo lets you train a party to lvel 10, and gives you bonus items if you transfer your data to the full version. What's more, despite the demo forcing you to use a preset party, you can change everything about each individual member (class, voice, coloring) when you transfer them.

I was under the assumption everything could be changed on import. In any event, it's no big deal. I'll just make an agent later.
 

Avallon

Member
Well, I'm definitely restarting. I just saw all the stuff you get from transferring from the demo. I didn't finish the demo so I just started from scratch.

Whoops.
 
What tripped me up was this bit in the OP:



I was under the assumption everything could be changed on import. In any event, it's no big deal. I'll just make an agent later.
It all can be changed though. Just grab your agent from the demo and change whatever you want, then set them as the main character.
Well, I'm definitely restarting. I just saw all the stuff you get from transferring from the demo. I didn't finish the demo so I just started from scratch.

Whoops.
I didn't finish either and it gave me all the bonuses.
 

Parham

Banned
It all can be changed though. Just grab your agent from the demo and change whatever you want, then set them as the main character.

Sorry, heh. I just realized my post lacks some important context, which might've made it confusing. In the demo, I got the samurai, godhand, and duelist to level 9, but left the agent untouched. I was mistakenly under the impression I could change the class of one of my higher level characters to become an agent when I imported my save.
 
Sorry, heh. I just realized my post lacks some important context, which might've made it confusing. In the demo, I got the samurai, godhand, and duelist to level 9, but left the agent untouched. I was mistakenly under the impression I could change the class of one of my higher level characters to become an agent when I imported my save.
Okay, gotcha. I didn't use the demo agent either but if it makes it any better she caught up to the rest of my party by the end of the first dungeon.
 

Parham

Banned
Okay, gotcha. I didn't use the demo agent either but if it makes it any better she caught up to the rest of my party by the end of the first dungeon.

Good to know! I'm really digging the game so far. I haven't played a traditional JRPG in possibly over a decade and this has been a surprisingly pleasant return to the genre. The customization options in particular have thoroughly surpassed my expectations.
 

Nachos

Member
I was under the assumption everything could be changed on import. In any event, it's no big deal. I'll just make an agent later.
I actually got that from another player's impressions, when they supposedly played the Japanese version. But I literally just got the game in the mail 5 minutes ago, so I couldn't verify it myself. I'm really sorry about that, and I'll fix the OP.

Just so I have this right, though: you're able to change the appearance and voice of a class at pretty much any time, but the class itself is locked until you unlock class change at level 30? Is there a decent way of leveling up new party members quickly?
 

tuffymon

Member
Unless you want to steamroll stuff, I'd recommend against doing the skill point / xp dlc quest. I realized late and decided to just finish it, and not retake it again... I went from level 13 > 26 doing it once, and IF you kill the skillpoint mob (10 hp, takes 1, almost always flees first round, never saw it fail when it tried), its 400 skill points per kill. Samurai cyclone was a guaranteed kill, IF only 1 mob was on screen, later on in the quest it was 2/2 skill/xp mobs, and much harder to kill them.
 

Parham

Banned
I actually got that from another player's impressions, when they supposedly played the Japanese version. But I literally just got the game in the mail 5 minutes ago, so I couldn't verify it myself. I'm really sorry about that, and I'll fix the OP.

Just so I have this right, though: you're able to change the appearance and voice of a class at pretty much any time, but the class itself is locked until you unlock class change at level 30? Is there a decent way of leveling up new party members quickly?

No worries! To answer part of your question, you can change a character's name, appearance, and voice from the very beginning.
 
Just got two more classes and the second party.
Game just keeps getting better.
I love how when you first enter an area dragons are a real threat but with the right strategy you can totally take them down.
 
There is something intensely amusing to me about making my main character a busty Godhand who always picks the rude options with my first two supporting characters being an old man butler Hacker and a kuudere Duelist maid. You can get some pretty fun emergent gameplay story stuff in this if you think about it a bit.
 

RedBoot

Member
There is something intensely amusing to me about making my main character a busty Godhand who always picks the rude options with my first two supporting characters being an old man butler Hacker and a kuudere Duelist maid. You can get some pretty fun emergent gameplay story stuff in this if you think about it a bit.

The opening parts of the game did strike me as odd. They make a big deal about how hard it is to get tickets for 7th Encount, and your main character just barely gets in. Then when you're about to play, you just randomly create two more dudes. So basically a mustachioed butler and Yugi Moto just happened to be hanging around an exclusive VR game when my character waltzed in, and they had no problem joining up in my highly dangerous quest to fight apocalyptic dragons. Sounds fine to me.
 
I like to imagine for my girl that the lady was like "You need two more people" and she whipped out her phone and called her butler and maid in the car outside and was like "Get in here"

DAMMIT JAPAN STOP GIVING ME TWINS WITH BANGS OVER THEIR EYES IN MY MEDIA ARGH
 
Just got two more classes and the second party.
Game just keeps getting better.
I love how when you first enter an area dragons are a real threat but with the right strategy you can totally take them down.
You are going to be thrilled later in Chapter 3, I can say that much without spoiling stuff!

I'm just done with Chapter 3 myself and I've been doing a lot of screaming at the stupidity of these anime characters.

Major story speculation (which seems very obvious to me):
Why are you guys literally building the most terrible dragon ever? Should rename your organization "IDGAF".
 
Selling stuff is annoying. Partially because it's tedious and you can't just mark a bunch of stuff and sell it in blue, but mostly because every item you sell is accompanied by the shopkeeper saying "Arigatou GOZAIMASU!!!"

Agent TROY:Fire + Duelist X Burn and Summon: Fire is a force to be reckoned with. Four attacks per turn and once it's set up it last a few turns and only needs one character to upkeep it.
 
Man, hacking is keeping me so tidy through these levels. That MN restoring ability is ridic.
And if you land an auto hack there's enough time to confuse the enemy AND hit them hard with MN recovery.
With a touch of strategy you can make some real beastly parties just at the start of the game.
 

spiritfox

Member
Hacking does fall off later on since you can just burst down most things in a turn or 2, but it's great at shutting down enemies if you get it to land. Make sure to get Autohack to makes things easier.
 
Auto-hack was the first ability I bought. Knew that shit would pay for itself.

I am really, REALLY liking this game.



"Here is our most holy and respectful, honorable and majestic queen."

*introduces a woman with two strips of cloth for a bra and a g-string that outlines her labia*

"Oh shit who let this stripper in here, get the queen."
 

Meffer

Member
Auto-hack was the first ability I bought. Knew that shit would pay for itself.

I am really, REALLY liking this game.



"Here is our most holy and respectful, honorable and majestic queen."

*introduces a woman with two strips of cloth for a bra and a g-string that outlines her labia*

"Oh shit who let this stripper in here, get the queen."

"No no. She the queen to me."
 

spiritfox

Member
Auto-hack was the first ability I bought. Knew that shit would pay for itself.

I am really, REALLY liking this game.



"Here is our most holy and respectful, honorable and majestic queen."

*introduces a woman with two strips of cloth for a bra and a g-string that outlines her labia*

"Oh shit who let this stripper in here, get the queen."

Hey it their culture how dare you shame

/s
 

Meffer

Member
Picked this up at lunch. Good thing I did -- free DLC, apparently. Yay.
The EXP SP quest is really helpful. My MC jumped from Lv. 16 to 26 with over 5000 SP and mind you some of the monsters run away. And you can repeat the quest of course.
Bring a samurai with cyclone wind.
 

KiTA

Member
The EXP SP quest is really helpful. My MC jumped from Lv. 16 to 26 with over 5000 SP and mind you some of the monsters run away. And you can repeat the quest of course.
Bring a samurai with cyclone wind.

Ah, so it's a cheat mode? Eh, maybe later.
 
I'd really like an SP without much XP/Gold DLC. My Godhand is a buncha points behind everyone else because of the way only the active party got the initial SP.
If you did the Demo (? I think that's where it is from), you can equip them with the SP increase accessory.

There are also consumable SP boost items distributed through normal gameplay, they come in various denominations if you really want to even everyone out to the best of your ability.
 
If you did the Demo (? I think that's where it is from), you can equip them with the SP increase accessory.

There are also consumable SP boost items distributed through normal gameplay, they come in various denominations if you really want to even everyone out to the best of your ability.

Yeah , I know. If I'd know you got SP from fights in the non-Demo part , I wouldn't have levelled my Godhand up to 10 in the demo. I'm a little bit compuslive.
 
Yeah , I know. If I'd know you got SP from fights in the non-Demo part , I wouldn't have levelled my Godhand up to 10 in the demo. I'm a little bit compuslive.

I totally understand, I capped all 4 of the characters given to you in the demo. Those Dragon Quest grinding urges hit strong.

Once you get the second (and presumably 3rd) party unlocked, minor gameplay mechanic spoilers:
they get EXP and SP even while being relegated to the background, so that's a very nice way to start building an extra character or team.

ETA: found something potentially game-breaking. Chapter 4, Quest: A Purr-Fect Gathering! New 3DS froze completely upon entering a battle, had to hard reset by holding down the power button. Going to go see if it was a one-time thing or if it will happen again.

ETA2: got through the quest fine this time, must have just been a weird quirk.
 

Sterok

Member
Just started this. Imported my demo data, but changed up my party a bit. Had just enough voice actors to form an Aikatsu party. Gonna be fun.
 
This game is good, isn't it...

I was going to pass on it because of Monster Hunter, but I think I'm gonna have to pick it up anyway

Is the demo still available? If so, is it really beneficial to go through that first, or are you not missing much?
 
This game is good, isn't it...

I was going to pass on it because of Monster Hunter, but I think I'm gonna have to pick it up anyway

Is the demo still available? If so, is it really beneficial to go through that first, or are you not missing much?
It's beneficial and there is no downside. Importing your save gives you some great items and the demo is literally just the beginning of the game without the ability to customize your party. But you can just do the customizing later if you decide to get the game.
 

RedBoot

Member
Supposed to be character skins only, so it a callback/aesthetic thing.

I kind of feel like they did the DLC schedule wrong here. I'd rather have the alternate skins/portraits on Day 1 when I'm making my team, and then get the grind quests on week 2 when I'm already well into the game.
 

Meffer

Member
This game is good, isn't it...

I was going to pass on it because of Monster Hunter, but I think I'm gonna have to pick it up anyway

Is the demo still available? If so, is it really beneficial to go through that first, or are you not missing much?

Very good. You can play demo which is the beginning of the game and get good items and money when you get the main game.
 
Why did nobody tell me the lounge would let me pair up almost any of my characters on a date?
I just had a fujoshi moment when my Duelist had implied friskiness with my Samurai.
 
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