But people have been asking for a Pokémon Snap sequel for ages.
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MCV: Mario & Pokemon coming within 6 months of NX launch, 3rd parties, exec comment
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But people have been asking for a Pokémon Snap sequel for ages.
If they come out during launch, you'd have a REALLY hard time selling them to people 5 months later.
Dark Cloud
Member
Out of all of Nintendos studios I'm most wanting to see Retros only because we have no clue what they're developing. Atleast we know Mario and Zelda are coming, but Retro is a complete mystery.
its quite possible that the game will be done by launch but I guessing they are going to spread them to have a constant flow of games throughout the year. also most people will buy the console with a game or 2 at launch as that is what they are going to be able to afford so releasing too many big games will reduce individual games overall sales.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
I wouldn't mind if it was a sun & moon port
The Giant
Banned
Rumours are pointing that Retro is working on a new ip.
Retro doesn't need to make another Metroid. They deserve a new ip.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I'll believe it when I see it. I don't trust Nintendo "launch windows".
Little Monser
Banned
I hope not
I want Retro to make something completely original and new
Metroid is dead anyway
Jonneh3003
Banned
Definitely, it would be a disservice to not allow them to stretch their creative legs.
How come? Those have been a massive hit for the exact audience they're going for.
TheDinoman
Member
Retro could always make it less dead....
Remember the NX was meant to launch this Christmas and was then delayed due to a lack of games. I'd be excited.
Dark Cloud
Member
I'd take a WRPG from Retro.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'd actually bet the game is more likely to be an HD remaster of Galaxy 1 and 2 than a Galaxy 3.
I thought they said the next Mario would be a new experience.
Super Mario Galaxy wasn't either but it was well worth the wait.
You know Mario Maker is a result of them working on their internal Mario level making tools. Why would they work on those if they never intend to design another 2D Mario game?
Jonneh3003
Banned
Metroid is not dead. While we may not all appreciate Federation Force it is at least an indication that Metroid Prime is still an ongoing series. It could have just been Metroid: Federation Force. Prime is in the title for a reason, someone is making Prime 4.
Not enough time for development. Mario 2d sells very well, but doesn't create too much hype anymore. It's something expected by default practically. Mario 2d didn't saved Wii U. From the communication point of view I wouldn't anything even vaguely similar to Wii U.
Also it would be too soon after Mario Maker, there's not enough thirst.
How much of a say does GameFreak really have on this, if Nintendo leans on them because NX needs to be a success?
I'd expect a 2D Mario game that's not in the NSMB style.
I still want Mario Maker, though. That should not stay on Wii U.
Who said they never intend to launch a Mario 2d? They will, but not in the first year.
Also I hope they do a total change in style after NSMBU and that takes time.
Dark Cloud
Member
I've said this before.
Retro needs to expand more in general. I could see a WRPG or Uncharted type of game to help bring in a more western audience.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I can't see them doing a new 2D Mario without some kind of twist, that being said I couldn't see them releasing New Super Mario Bros 2 and U within months of each other.
Ah, I didn't realize the SMM team was the same as the NSMBU/2 team. I'd hoped since it's been 3.5+ years since those two games that one of the teams or a different team entirely might be working on a new kind of 2D Mario. I see your points though. I do think if a different 2D Mario could have made a bigger splash and had better marketing and more appealing presentation--and NSMB2 wasn't a thing, especially not just a few months before--it would have helped the system more. But if (milky way) wishes were (Epona or other) horses, (Hyrule Town) beggars would ride.
Wouldn't that be even less of a new experience, though? A few years back they hinted at more SMG/SMU installments.
TheDinoman
Member
Technically that only really applies to the first two games on DS and Wii. NSMB2 and U didn't sell nearly as well.
I feel like at that point the general audience kinda caught on to Nintendo's shenanigans. With very two identical looking games coming out in literally the same year, it just seemed pretty obvious that Nintendo was just cranking these games out for the mere sake of having 2D Mario games and not really doing anything inventive or exciting.
NSMB DS felt special because it was the first 2D Mario title in a good 14 years (the last one up to that point was Super Mario Land 2). NSMB Wii also felt special because it was the first console 2D Mario game in 19 years since Super Mario World, and also heavily expanded upon the first NSMB's gameplay with more advanced level design, four player co-op which had never been done in the series before, Yoshi, etc. NSMB2/U just didn't feel special at all even if they had solid level design. They reused the same aesthetics and hardly added anything substantial other than throwaway features like the coin-collecting thing.
They just need to make 2D Mario feel special again. The NSMB brand has been diluted, so throw that name out. Give the game's presentation the same amount of love and care Mario Kart 8 got, add all new worlds and themes, etc.
Spring-Loaded
Member
I would kill for a TLoU/Nu God of War-styled Mario.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Retro gonna make a really colorful game. I dont think current retro has it in them to do some western type game.
Here is a cool idea. Lets say NX cartridges allow 16GB. Instead of releasing a Pokemon Eclipse which would be quite underwhelming as a NX game as it's really just a 3DS port. A cool idea would be to allow 3 regions in 1 game. So the game could he a remix or X/Y, ORAS ans S/M. They can marketed as the biggest Pokemon game ever with the most regions which can only be done on the NX. They can do a quick and dirty HD upscale of all the region's.
They can simply add a Airport in each region to hop between regions.
They can simply add a Airport in each region to hop between regions.
Tertullian
Member
*New* Mario's Face
Pokemon BloodDiamond and SwinePearl
Pokemon BloodDiamond and SwinePearl
ScientificPizza
Banned
Six months after the NX launch will put it around a year after Sun/Moon, it's not that crazy a thought tbh.
If it is a mainline Pokemon game I wonder what it will be. It could just be the definitive version of this gen (like Yellow/Platinum/Diamond) or maybe they'll keep with this new game/remake/new game cycle? That seems unlikely though as the next in line to be remade would be Diamond and Pearl.
Sun/Moon definitive edition or Sun/Moon 2 both seem underwhelming, but also that's a short turn around for a whole new gen.
I hope whatever the next Mario is it's a big Galaxy-esque game.
Zelda/Mario/Pokemon all before Christmas could turn the NX into a monster
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I REALLY hope the new Mario game is a 3D platformer and not another one of those "New" SMB games. I'm getting a little burnt out on those and Mario Maker easily gives me a classic Mario fix if the desire kicks in.
Vyse The Legend
Member
This pretty much, which is totally fine.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I don't trust these rumors that it's a "new" Mario game. A remaster is far more likely.
Dark Cloud
Member
Eh? We don't know who's at Retro. All I know is they made Metroid and DK. Two completely different styles of games and both series were great. Didn't they bring in some people from Naughty Dog?
MCV is the UK's leading trade magazine for videogames. Long established and well respected.
herbchamberz
Member
My thought was that releasing Mario Maker meant that Nintendo was done with the side-scrolling Marios. Hopefully. We'll see.
I think everything you said it exactly on point, but I do want to mention that per Wiki New Super Mario Bros. 2 is the fifth best-selling game for the Nintendo 3DS, selling 10.39 million copies worldwide as of June 30, 2016. So it did well. And NSMBU despite its bungled marketing/launch/presentation/timing did excellently relative to the Wii U install base. So I agree with your point, but I think there's a bit less fatigue for SMB even now, but I agree the right presentation is crucial.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
New IPs and less sequels, please.
Hm, how come? It's been a 2.5 years since 3DW, 1.5 since Captain Toad, and presumably they can use the same engine.
Given that Alberto already lampshaded that...
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