Dark Cloud
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Nintendo didn't say this.
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MCV: Mario & Pokemon coming within 6 months of NX launch, 3rd parties, exec comment
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Aces&Eights
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"Within 6 months" sound like "Enjoy Zelda at launch and hopefully we will have something else for you half a year later".
LambdaTeos
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according to IGN, they had 32 titles on release date
http://ca.ign.com/wikis/wii-u/Wii_U_Launch_Games_(US)
of course, some ports, some casual games... but 32 is a good amount.
Wikipedia says they were 23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U#Launch_titles
Okami Haundo
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Have you seen what smartphones are capable of nowadays in terms of graphics?
Jorok Goldblade
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Same here.
OrbitalBeard
Member
That's not what this sounds like at all, unless you naively believe Nintendo only has three IP in their catalog.
This isn't Nintendo saying it tho
Dark Cloud
Member
That doesn't appeal to the smartphone crowd tbh. They need to price it at $600, then it'll appeal to them. Lol joking
Which planet am I living on right now? Where in the world do you get that from this article? How would MCV know all of Nintendos lineup in the first 6 months?
The12thGripper
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As long as I can transfer all my Pokemon from the 3DS games to NX (hopefully back and forth using Bank for Gen 7), I will be there.
They're going to need to announce games that are coming outside of the launch window. They can't just focus on the here and now. They have to sell SOME kind of promise and commitment to it.
Also, kinda strange they DON'T mention Smash Bros.
He argues that 3DS and Wii U only sold 70 million units because of the excessive amount of platformers released for the systems, instead of using those resources to make games people actually want.
In other words a chicken or the egg scenario, it can neither be proved or disapproved that is used as code for "I don't like platformers, please make fewer of those next gen" which would have been a much simpler thing to say.
The key thing to note though is that he always brings up arguments that supports his theory, never acknowledging potential counter-points and whenever someone else brings up evidence that point to the contrary he downplays their significance or dismiss them completely.
Graphics Horse
Member
Worked for Wii! Definitely needs some new titles to stand apart from the Wii U though.
Seriously. I've always been bummed about low third party support in the past, but this time I barely even care.
lmao
Father_Brain
Banned
They're competing with mobile, even indirectly, unless they focus on the Sony/MS audience, which it's pretty clear they're not doing.
Like it or not, the current gaming market is dominated by mobile on the low end and Sony/MS on the high end. They can and will try to carve out a space in the middle, but there's no way to completely avoid competition when there's no blue ocean left.
Chill Penguin
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I really hope the new Mario game is more of a Mario 64 or sunshine or even galaxy. Not a huge fan of corridor Mario (3d land/world).
30yearsofhurt
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OrbitalBeard
Member
Definitely. This has been a problem with Nintendo launches for awhile now. They hold back post launch-window software announcements for too long. That's not a good strategy at all leading up to a console's release. You have to give people an incentive to invest in your ecosystem.
Once the system's been out for a bit, sure, announcing future software less than a year out from release is fine.
Remember the 3DS and Wii U launch? Yeah, me too. We should be sceptical about this launch, if the last two are any indication.
Aside from Smash, they didn't announce anything outside the first year until the EMERGENCY Direct. And even that was like a week after the initial unveiling 'oh btw guys, we forgot to announce this, but we're doing Smash. K BAI.' Wii U was a complete shitshow.
Skittzo0413
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How feasible would it be for Game Freak to shoehorn in some modest Pokemon GO functionality into hypothetical Sun & Moon ports in a year? I wonder how much the success of Pokemon GO caught Nintendo and TPC off guard... hopefully they have a decent strategy for capitalizing on its popularity.
Also for those saying Game Freak means no spinoff, keep in mind that this would mark the first time that Game Freak jumps to new hardware mid generation, so I wouldn't say that we could base anything on what Game Freak usually does in the past.
And I wonder if "6 months" was just this source hearing "launch window" and assuming that is supposed to mean within 6 months. It could be possible that Nintendo is honeydicking us again with "launch window" which could place this new 3D Mario game as their holiday title (which would make more sense to me than between March and September).
Also for those saying Game Freak means no spinoff, keep in mind that this would mark the first time that Game Freak jumps to new hardware mid generation, so I wouldn't say that we could base anything on what Game Freak usually does in the past.
And I wonder if "6 months" was just this source hearing "launch window" and assuming that is supposed to mean within 6 months. It could be possible that Nintendo is honeydicking us again with "launch window" which could place this new 3D Mario game as their holiday title (which would make more sense to me than between March and September).
Father_Brain
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Actually, they really only did this with Wii U, presumably because their adjustment to HD development was such a clusterfuck. The 3DS and Wii reveals showed off games that were well over a year away.
There is a difference between a advertisement promise and a news report. This is the latter.
There is a difference between an output split between 2 consoles and having one plattform. This is the latter.
opticalmace
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Comes off as kind of negative imo.
I don't disagree, but I do think there are 2 new factors to consider. 1, that Wii U internal development has been dead for a long long time. 2, NX is now the only system Nintendo developers are focused on. This should be an amazing launch-but of course, Nintendo has let everyone down before.
OrbitalBeard
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That Direct was great at the time, but in hindsight, it shows how poorly mismanaged Wii U was. A shitshow indeed.
Yeah, this is definitely true for Wii. 3DS as well, but weren't games like Kid Icarus meant for launch originally? I feel like everything else they showed for that system pre-launch hit during the calendar year.
spyroflame0487
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I'd like to hope Mario won't be Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympic games and Pokemon isn't Sun and Moon port.
I'd be very interested to see Pokemon wise what they do. We haven't had a regular "stadium" style game since Battle Revolution and I think we're long overdue for something of that nature. But then, the thing that would garner the biggest attraction to the console would be a new "mainline" Pokemon game. Sun and Moon would enjoy at least 5 months of release. I suppose they could either make a third version (Earth?) or do remakes of something. With how popular the first gen has been especially with Go, I'd figure they'd want to do a Gen 1 remake instead of 4. Remake Yellow or something maybe even.
I'd be very interested to see Pokemon wise what they do. We haven't had a regular "stadium" style game since Battle Revolution and I think we're long overdue for something of that nature. But then, the thing that would garner the biggest attraction to the console would be a new "mainline" Pokemon game. Sun and Moon would enjoy at least 5 months of release. I suppose they could either make a third version (Earth?) or do remakes of something. With how popular the first gen has been especially with Go, I'd figure they'd want to do a Gen 1 remake instead of 4. Remake Yellow or something maybe even.
God I wish. Maybe if they sell the thing piece-meal.
Handheld + controllers = 150.
Dock = 50-100, depending on the tech involved (does it add cpu/gpu or does it stream like wii u tablet, but in reverse?)
Pro controller = 50
But even at 150 I feel like they'd be selling at a loss, especially if they're using pascal or x2.
SanSebastian
Banned
If this is a real Pokemon with the first (or first two) editions of Pokemon with a ni-no-kuni style game then i'm ready and willing to buy this new console.
I have dreamed of something like this since i was 6.
I have dreamed of something like this since i was 6.
Nocturnowl
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Naturally, We've all been missing the Music and Video club from English high streets after all.
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Or maybe you meant Marvel vs Capcom or something?
...nah, definitely MVC.
Okami Haundo
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You hope that Mario isn't Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games, but you want Pokemon to be a Stadium game instead of Sun and Moon?
Most of those gamers have already a ps4 and/or 3ds. I don't think that they really want that kind of gamers.
Also Nintendo seems not to be interested in those gamers:
http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/27/6074865/miyamoto-signals-nintendo-desire-to-focus-on-hardcore
Or they have changed their mind.
spyroflame0487
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I speculated in the Go thread that they could push an update that turns Pokemon in QR codes which would then be read in the game. I'm not really sure if this is possible or what would then happen to the Pokemon in Go (maybe it permanently changes them to a QR code into your inventory or something) and even what extent they want to use QR codes with. (So far it's gonna happen with Magearna in Japan, and I think over here as well...but are they doing this with all events? What about over WiFi? and what about codes? Maybe it's just replacing the "infrared" feature that's only ever been used in Japan?
It's really hard to say what they're going to do but I think the tools necessary are there already.
TheBaldEmperor
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Please no more 3D Land. Ready to move on from that to something....different. New or Galaxy style but not that.
Also Capcom not being mentioned in 3rd party support is worrying but I feel like Monster Hunter will be there.
Dreamwriter
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I really don't like the "within 6 months" part, these really need to be at launch. Nintendo needs to be running out the gate, day one, hitting hard with their big franchises. If they can get big sales at the start, that's what will bring in the third party support - that's what both 3DS and Wii U were missing, and really is why 3DS flopped so damn hard for its first year.
Admittedly, this is a rumor, and maybe there's something super secret in the works that we don't know about - like a new Mario Kart for day 1 or something. Or the Final Fantasy VII Remake has suddenly become NX exclusive.
Admittedly, this is a rumor, and maybe there's something super secret in the works that we don't know about - like a new Mario Kart for day 1 or something. Or the Final Fantasy VII Remake has suddenly become NX exclusive.
QisTopTier
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pokemon stadium games are pointless these days
Skittzo0413
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Don't most smartphones have NFC capabilities now? That would likely be the simplest way to do that, no? Otherwise I would think syncing your Pokemon GO account and your My Nintendo/NNID would be another way to do it.
Irishonion
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Getting hopes up for a new Pokemon game... But will probably leave disappointed.
Will be the difference between if I buy one or not.
Will be the difference between if I buy one or not.
You know within 6 months can include day 1, right?
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
So they have Ubi, EA and others on board but it won't be interesting for PS4 gamers? So what does that mean for multiplatform titles on NX? Vastly inferior? It's a bit odd.
does it really make sense to launch with a bunch of huge first party titles all at the same time?
resources aren't unlimited. nintendo doesn't have the luxury of... third party support, so they kinda need to stretch their software in order to avoid droughts.
I don't think it would kill them to have zelda at launch, then this pokemon title 2 months later, and then mario 2 months after that.
Graphics Horse
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Maybe I am misunderstanding but Smash being in development for 3DS+Wii U was announced by Iwata at e3 2011. That was the 3DS panic mode phase not the Wii U panic mode phase.
Either Mario or Zelda's going to be saved for the holiday season. It's just that simple. I don't care what MVC says. It's just how Nintendo works. Pokemon might do the same thing, too. It's gonna be a third version or a port, though, so it's not imperative I guess.
Smash port needs to be there at launch, though. And maybe Retro's thing like in May.
Dreamwriter
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There's no reason to say "within 6 months" if you mean "launch day".
wonderful103
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You don't blow your load all at once with system launches. You have to sprinkle it a little bit so that they have more room to breathe.
EA is not confirmed to be on board.
As for the rest, Just Dance, Lego games, Skylanders etc.
For sure there's no fixed launched date yet for these games, being still in development. The launch date can change in the next months. So why should anybody take responsibility for a fixed launch date like this?
ArchedThunder
Banned
A Sun and Moon port would be amazing.
What clear is that Nintendo is not fixing what's not broken. They're continuing their handheld legacy but now they're adding all of their home console support to it. Right now they are unrivaled in handheld area, not even by smartphones, as they're still unable to provide core gaming experience. They know the difference of two markets and are working to get the best out of them both.
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