SweetDonuts
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If it's a sun and moon port I'll wait, kind of hoping it is.
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MCV: Mario & Pokemon coming within 6 months of NX launch, 3rd parties, exec comment
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Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Miyamoto has stated it will be a completely new Mario so I imagine it won't be a sequel to Galaxy. I'm just hoping it's more galaxy-ish in ambition and less safe than 3D World. Don't get me wrong, I love 3D World. But Galaxy is on a whole other level.
Maybe Nintendo will finally take a crack at a 3D open-worldish platformer?
openrob
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Take that back!
SMB3DW was one of the best Mario games in a long long while amongst the monotony of the 'NEW' series.
We all know it's a good game, but for me it was actually a really memorable one.
superchunk
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Power talk is interesting but that is not the biggest part of this article.
"Nintendo seems set on trying to upgrade smartphone gamers."
This statement pushes harder at the basic design of the NX. It indirectly supports the Eurogamer article on the form factor and initial thoughts the average joe is going to have about the NX. To me, that is not good.
Nintendo can't let public opinion be that the NX is just a gamer phone. It needs to be seen as a console with benefits of taking gaming on the go or on your big screen. The content, controls and definitely launch advertising will make or break this console. Just as the failed advertising broke the WiiU.
"Nintendo seems set on trying to upgrade smartphone gamers."
This statement pushes harder at the basic design of the NX. It indirectly supports the Eurogamer article on the form factor and initial thoughts the average joe is going to have about the NX. To me, that is not good.
Nintendo can't let public opinion be that the NX is just a gamer phone. It needs to be seen as a console with benefits of taking gaming on the go or on your big screen. The content, controls and definitely launch advertising will make or break this console. Just as the failed advertising broke the WiiU.
Hot Coldman
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Personally I still think I'll play Pokemon Moon on 3DS - obviously it'll be at least 5 months sooner, but the dual screen set-up is really helpful.
Miiiiight jump over for Pokemon Dazzling Diamond/Blue 2/Twilight/whatever, though.
Miiiiight jump over for Pokemon Dazzling Diamond/Blue 2/Twilight/whatever, though.
AAA means in today's industry huge marketing budgets and big studios involved, hundreds of people. None of the Nintendo games qualifies as AAA, except maybe Zelda BoW.
SSB is technically not a Wii U exclusive.
But even so, what do you think was so expensive about SSB and SM3DW that wasn't done in Xenoblade X? X has huge environments both horizontally and vertically, a lot of detailed fauna, voice acting, soundtrack made from scratch, a lot of cut-scenes and using mostly new assets.
Bl@de
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I'm totally fine with Super Mario Universe
But I want something like the gameplay of Galaxy, 64 etc.. Not a 3D version of a 2D Mario.superchunk
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.. or a VC launch of all previous Pokemon games plus Go.
foxuzamaki
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AAA actual term means in the video game industry refers to budget, typically a AAA games have alot of visual polish which would make you think the game is good by default
TheDinoman
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I'm totally fine with Super Mario Universe
Before we can get to that point, I think Nintendo needs to stop being stubborn, suck it up and accept the fact that the 2D Mario crowd isn't going to magically start buying 3D Mario games just because they have a bunch of gameplay elements taken from them. As good as 3D Land and World are, they kinda failed at converting 2D Mario players into 3D (Compare their sales to the first two NSMB games and you'll see what I mean).
Let 3D Mario be 3D Mario, let 2D Mario be 2D Mario, and put the same amount of care and passion into both of them. If I see another NSMB game with a "bah bah" soundtrack....
???
I don't think I'm making my point clear enough. English isn't my primary language. My point was that Takahashi doesn't consider XCX as a AAA game, so the answer should be obvious.
Voysa Reezun
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I've never played a mainline Pokemon game, and unless the NX Pokemon game is Pokemon Snap 2, I'm not interested in it, but a new 3D Mario that goes away from Galaxy/SM3DW + BotW + interesting stuff from Sega and Squeenix sounds really good to me.
Like, a JSRF port/remake sounds PERFECT for this type of machine, for example!
Like, a JSRF port/remake sounds PERFECT for this type of machine, for example!
You can't discount SSB to support your argument. You are forgetting one major thing: marketing. Compared to other major first party games, XCX had minimal marketing. Marketing takes up a huge chunk of a game's budget.
And despite what you think, Takahashi, the game's director, doesn't consider it to be a AAA game.
It's like you haven't even read my post. I'm done here, I can't argue against a wall.
NintendosBooger
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I'm still trying to discern Nintendo's strategy in Japan, specifically as it relates to their third party partners there. It seems most of them are focused on moving their brands to mobile, so I'm having a hard time accepting that we'll see a lot of third party exclusives that won't appear on phones for cheaper, especially if the NX's hardware is limited.
Spyder_Monkey
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We have pretty solid rumors corroborated by many valid sources (Eurogamer, WSJ, Semi-accurate, MCV). It's a certainty that what the NX is is what has been reported.over the past week. You would have to be a fool to doubt these at this point. While some outlets have slipped up (IGN Russia) most of the time, what they report independently tends to be accurate.
Every major console has their details leaked. PS4, Xbox One, Neo, Scorpio, even the Wii U and 3DS. And yeah Nintendo wants to keep the NX a secret on their own terms... so does Microsoft and Sony, hell every major company has these practices.
So yeah, we haven't seen anything. But at this point, there's little reason to doubt what's being rumored. This isn't a fan site or a no name redditor, these are major credible outlets. We know what the NX is now and unless your crazy or Jeff Rigby or something, there's very little reason to doubt any of this.
Yes but different systems. There's also NSMB/Twilight Princess, Galaxy/Phantom Hourglass, NSMBWii/Spirit Tracks and 3D Land/Skyward Sword within 6 months of each other so it's less unusual on different systems.
I just re-read your post and now see your point. It's difficult to keep track of discussions especially on mobile. Your comment was a little rude. :/
Anyway, let's stop derailing the thread. However, I'm open to continuing the discussion via PM if you'd like to.
LordRaptor
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AAA is an investment term describing confidence in high rate of return.
This usually equates in gaming to a strong IP, a proven and / or talented studio, an extended development cycle, and a high marketing budget.
Most of Nintendos 'big names' are AAA titles.
AAA used for games is not the same term as AAA for rating/investement, but rather the equivalent of the blockbuster for movies. This is at least my knowledge.
According to your definition Minecraft is a AAA game.
I always hated the AAA term. Just call them blockbuster games or big budget games.
Angry Chair
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I own both as well and yes, the 3DS is a sinking ship. I love its library but it's old with awful hardware and sales have been slowing down for a while. There isn't a reason to keep supporting it for another year.
Skittzo0413
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Might wanna wait for Nintendo themselves to announce their launch lineup. This is a supposed leak from someone close to Nintendo, who may not know exactly what their plans are.
It's very likely we will at the very least also get a "gimmick game" a la Nintendo Land and Wii Sports. I'd be very surprised too if it's just that and Zelda at the launch, so I'd wait for the official announcement before being disappointed.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Ill believe it when I see it. Probably just gonna be sun/moon ports.
There was no Zelda announced for launch.
Pokemon was not even in the cards.
The hell are you talking about?
Zelda, Pokemon and Mario are disappointing now. The effing hell with some of you.
Otakumegane
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This is Zelda no question. I'm pretty sure someone even admitted to that.
Awful hardware when compared to what?
Zelda is not a Wii U exclusive.
30yearsofhurt
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GiantBreadbug
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If they want S/M's third version (who knows if those are even a thing anymore) on NX with a lot more content/features like third versions usually do, then that's fine by me.
Kinda odd though. But I'll wait until I see something.
Mario is hype. Don't care what it is, as long as it's a good ass platformer.
Kinda odd though. But I'll wait until I see something.
Mario is hype. Don't care what it is, as long as it's a good ass platformer.
Skittzo0413
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I think that poster's issue was about launch day, not launch window. Zelda, Mario and Pokemon on an HD (presumably) console within 6 months of launch is borderline mind-blowing for me, so I'm quite happy.
Also re: Zelda at launch, I know it's not officially announced but I would think that their lack of announcing a Zelda release date is more about making sure the Wii U Zelda doesn't need to be pushed back in the event the NX is delayed, rather than having Zelda potentially miss the NX launch date.
That's just my theory though.
LoveCake
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It is not that really, I don't have any expectations (high or low) on NX system or NX games either first party or third party, I just feel that I can no longer trust what Nintendo say anymore, they said the same sort of things before the WiiU and 3DS launched and there were not many games released in the early months and the third parties (on WiiU) released just old ports other than ZombiU.
I am sorry for sounding negative about the NX and games, but it is just the way I feel, there is a majority saying how excited they are for the NX and games, just as I was with the WiiU, but how much of this excitement will translate into NX purchases on release day, or is everyone just going to sit back to see what happens games release-wise and as NX sales stall third parties get cold feet and the cycle continues.
imo, The NX needs to launch with about twenty full sized games at launch spread across first party and third party games and at least ten of these not ports or up-grades/dates spread across multiple genres.
I cannot see how the NX cannot release with Zelda: Breath of the Wild and a 'new' Mario game and three or four new Nintendo franchise games on launch day.
The western third parties are gonna play wait and see for the sales performance anyways.
Afaik the Japanese third parties, indies and Nintendo themselves will be coming full force from day one.
It could happen. A lot of the games released within two years of eachother, with the gba games and the GameCube game only having a year between them.
arts&crafts
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I would buy an nx for pokemon snap 2
You don't understand.
You said you fell for this with WiiU.
There was no rumour/announcement of Pokemon for WiiU.
There was no rumour/announcement of Zelda for WiiU launch.
NSMBU was announced for and released WiiU at launch.
The hell did you fell for?
LordRaptor
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AAA is used by gamers because gaming magazines started using it.
Gaming magazines started using it because it was frequently used by game publishers stakeholders in reference to their biggest games, which were the titles expected to perform well, which also tended to be the titles that reviewed well.
Minecraft was not a AAA title by that definition, because it had no publisher nor stakeholder expectations attached.
Minecraft ports and any subsequent sequel definitely would be considered AAA.
NinjaCoachZ
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Wanting to make the holiday rush, give the 3DS a last dying breath, actually make it out for the anniversary year, strike the Go iron while it's hot (or, well... by November, probably warm at best...), NX was originally planned for 2016 and then delayed until 2017, etc.
I think the main speculation going on was that Pokemon Z was planned at first, but then they canned it to focus on having Sun and Moon for 2016, and just incorporated stuff like Zygarde's forms into it?
SinCityAssassin
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Son, even the PS4 didn't fucking do that.
Angry Chair
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This is rediculous. BotW plus whatever on day one and Mario and Pokémon coming later is perfectly fine.
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