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["Rumor"] Final Fantasy XV Delayed to November 29 [Up: Photo evidence]

When will Final Fantasy XV release?


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Ketaya

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The E3 console builds were shaky. They are still predominately showcasing the game on development PCs.

The only console build at E3 was the Titan demo, and that wasn't shaky.
And while they are showing dev PC material on screenshots and in videos, the preview events where people actually play the game use the console builds now (different to E3).
 

Zedark

Member
Technically this is first delay for FFXV. Ten years gave us strange feeling but this is first time...

Doesn't matter that much, does it? The game has been anticipated for 10+ years, and they announced the release date only a few months ago. They can't afford the same delay pattern as games that aren't ten years old.
 

Arkeband

Banned
The only console build at E3 was the Titan demo, and that wasn't shaky.
And while they are showing dev PC material on screenshots and in videos, the preview events where people actually play the game use the console builds now (different to E3).

If all boss fights are going to be glorified quicktime events, the game won't even need to be buggy to fail.

And like M_Night points out, it was very buggy - the game would stop responding entirely to some players. You can't get much worse than needing to reboot the demo.
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
The only console build at E3 was the Titan demo, and that wasn't shaky.
And while they are showing dev PC material on screenshots and in videos, the preview events where people actually play the game use the console builds now (different to E3).

Plenty of people have mentioned game breaking bugs that they encountered in the E3 Titan demo.
 

Kanann

Member
[me on 29th November]
- finally, gonna play FF15
- just pass chapter 1 because of "collect 'em all" habit
- quit game
[me on 30th November]
- finally, gonna play Gravity Rush 2
- just pass chapter 1 because of "collect 'em all" habit
- quit game
- play FF15
[me on 1st-5th December]
- play FF15
- quit game
- play Gravity Rush 2
- quit game
- loop
- suffer
[me on 6th December]
- finally, gonna play South Park Butthole
- just pass chapter 1 because of "collect 'em all" habit
- quit game
- suffer
- die
 

Kuraudo

Banned
Technically this is first delay for FFXV. Ten years gave us strange feeling but this is first time...

It's the first time it's been publicly delayed.

But the definition of delay is to make something happen later than originally planned or intended. And I'm pretty sure when Square Enix first decided to develop this game, they intended to release it much much sooner.
 

Heartfyre

Member
Doesn't matter that much, does it? The game has been anticipated for 10+ years, and they announced the release date only a few months ago. They can't afford the same delay pattern as games that aren't ten years old.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII was cancelled. Final Fantasy XV was announced at E3 2013, so it's three years old.

The games aren't the same -- just ask the Stella fans.
 

Carmelozi

Member
About Titan demo, the build at Japan Expo from Paris was more steady than the E3 build if I recall well. But it means nothing since it's only a part of the game. So apart from that, we can only make some theories about the advancement of the game.
 

Ludens

Banned
Final Fantasy Versus XIII was cancelled. Final Fantasy XV was announced at E3 2013, so it's three years old.

The games aren't the same -- just ask the Stella fans.

The game isn't the same but its skeleton is, exaclty like Duke Nukem Forever.

So, new trailer + delay message at Gamescom maybe?

A new trailer is pretty sure, since Gamescom is the next big thing and the game is supposed to release in 45 days. We'll see for a delay, but at this point delaying the game after that big announcement just shows how SE can't plan properly their releases according to the development time needed.
 

Shahed

Member
It's not a completely different audience. There aren't many that play FFXIV that won't play any of the single-player games. The opposite, however, is not true. That audience should consider that Final Fantasy is more than the latest single-player release. Even if XV is a critical and commercial failure, the series is hardly going to fade into obscurity.

Yes FF is more than the latest single player experience. But if FFXV is a failure, in terms of mindshare and reception how long would it have been since the last Final Fantasy game people felt delivered? My brothers and sisters loved FF just as much as I did, but for them now they've kind of lost intetest since it's been a decade and more for a release they were happy with. An entire new generation of gamers have come during a time FF's brand power hasn't been the biggest and FFXV doesn't set things right how long will people have to wait for the next mainline game and can FF retain it's prestige status after another 5 years of people not really caring?

The amount of people I know that are eager for FFVIIR but are just apathetic for XV is staggering.
 
[me on 29th November]
- finally, gonna play FF15
- just pass chapter 1 because of "collect 'em all" habit
- quit game
[me on 30th November]
- finally, gonna play Gravity Rush 2
- just pass chapter 1 because of "collect 'em all" habit
- quit game
- play FF15
[me on 1st-5th December]
- play FF15
- quit game
- play Gravity Rush 2
- quit game
- loop
- suffer
[me on 6th December]
- finally, gonna play South Park Butthole
- just pass chapter 1 because of "collect 'em all" habit
- quit game
- suffer
- die

Yep, this is me, but add Dead Rising 4 to the 6th as well. :/
 

Lucreto

Member
Hopefully not true.

If it is I will have to cancel my Gravity Rush 2 preorder to play it. I won't get much time as November to February is my busy time and I might have to cancel my Persona preorder as well.
 

Zedark

Member
Hopefully not true.

If it is I will have to cancel my Gravity Rush 2 preorder to play it. I won't get much time as November to February is my busy time and I might have to cancel my Persona preorder as well.

True, the period from about a month after September 30th is insane for me: I am looking to get WOFF, NIOH, ROTR PS4, GR2, and Skyrim in the month from october 28th to november 30th. FFXV fitted in perfectly at September 30th, but November 29th places it right in that same period, which complicates the already difficult schedule a whole lot more.
 

Ludens

Banned
Expected. Probably needs more time than that, honestly.

I just want to move on to XVI.

From the state of the videos released, this is true. I mean, nothing of this game is impressive, usually older FF games were also a tech showcase for the machines in which they released (just think about FFVII, the first 3D RPG on PSX after Wild Arms 1, which wasn't too impressive), even FFXIII delivered in this, PS3 version looks awesome even now...FFXV after Witcher 3, GTAV etc. doesn't look at all, otherwise it looks very bland and unpolished.
So yeah, even from a mere graphics aspect, the game still needs work (I'm not even talking about the clipping the Titan demo had).
But if you are not sure to being able to deliver in time an already delayed, stuck in development hell title, you don't do a big event in a theatre just to delay the game two months after.
 

Setsu00

Member
From the state of the videos released, this is true. I mean, nothing of this game is impressive, usually older FF games were also a tech showcase for the machines in which they released (just think about FFVII, the first 3D RPG on PSX after Wild Arms 1, which wasn't too impressive), even FFXIII delivered in this, PS3 version looks awesome even now...FFXV after Witcher 3, GTAV etc. doesn't look at all, otherwise it looks very bland and unpolished.
So yeah, even from a mere graphics aspect, the game still needs work (I'm not even talking about the clipping the Titan demo had).
But if you are not sure to being able to deliver in time an already delayed, stuck in development hell title, you don't do a big event in a theatre just to delay the game two months after.

I'm incredibly sceptical of FFXV, but I always thought the assets themselves were great.
 
Scea doesnt care enough about gravity rush to delay it.

Very true sadly.

The only people who will be rushing to buy GR2 are the same people who loved the GR Remaster on PS4. We are a niche fanbase... apparently.

It doesn't have to be that way though if Sony made an effort to market the game properly and give it a fighting chance. Going by how fabulous much of the footage for GR2 looks, I honestly think there's some mainstream appeal there, but Sony won't get the game out there for folks to see. It's genuinely disheartening stuff.

Watch them not even bother to put GR:Remastered on PS+ a couple of months prior to 2's release.
 

Diablos

Member
Well, I decided that I was going to wait a couple months anyway after the initial hype period and after things get patched to get a better feel for what people really think of the game, so... I really won't mind if it's delayed a couple months. Even early next year is ok. The game looks rough. I am preparing for the worst no matter when it finally ships.

Part of me wonders if it will end up getting delayed indefinitely again. You have to prepare for every scenario with this game in regards to development.
 

Teletraan1

Banned
A few month delay to iron out some performance issues is probably not going to help because performance issues are the least of this games problems. Personally I wish they would just release it get the bad feedback so they can move on and at least attempt to make XVI a good game rather than this albatross around their neck. Everything related to FNC in any way has been absolute poison for this brand.
 

RedZaraki

Banned
Here's my ULTIMATE question.

My SUPER DUPER question I would love someone to answer. And it would have made a world of difference and put this game in a much better place for many people.

Why..........WHY did SE announce Final Fantasy Versus XIII AT ALL?


Why would ANY developer, announce vaporware that is more than 3 years out?

Don't do it.

Don't do that. 3+ years out? Just keep it under wraps! You don't build hype and keep hype for that long. Better to wait until it's actually......I don't know. A GAME.


This game should not have even BEEN ANNOUNCED until late 2014, as far as I'm concerned. Everything else before that was tripe.
 

Setsu00

Member
If there is a delay...they should put up a new episode duscae demo >.>

- "We need every day we can get to improve the game's quality."

- "I've got an idea! Let's focus instead on making another demo."

- "It's brilliant! That way nobody will get angry!"

Here's my ULTIMATE question.

My SUPER DUPER question I would love someone to answer. And it would have made a world of difference and put this game in a much better place for many people.

Why..........WHY did SE announce Final Fantasy Versus XIII AT ALL?


Why would ANY developer, announce vaporware that is more than 3 years out?

Don't do it.

Don't do that. 3+ years out? Just keep it under wraps! You don't build hype and keep hype for that long. Better to wait until it's actually......I don't know. A GAME.


This game should not have even BEEN ANNOUNCED until late 2014, as far as I'm concerned. Everything else before that was tripe.

While we can probably agree that the game was announced way too early, I doubt it was their intention to have this game stuck in development hell for 10 years.
 

Manu

Member
If anything, this thread has shown me that "gimme that Neo version", "oh yeah, will wait for Neo," "Neo version it is then!" is now my most hated GAF meme.
 

Zedark

Member
Here's my ULTIMATE question.

My SUPER DUPER question I would love someone to answer. And it would have made a world of difference and put this game in a much better place for many people.

Why..........WHY did SE announce Final Fantasy Versus XIII AT ALL?


Why would ANY developer, announce vaporware that is more than 3 years out?

Don't do it.

Don't do that. 3+ years out? Just keep it under wraps! You don't build hype and keep hype for that long. Better to wait until it's actually......I don't know. A GAME.


This game should not have even BEEN ANNOUNCED until late 2014, as far as I'm concerned. Everything else before that was tripe.

That's the question. Perhaps they wanted to get their stock up a bit for that fiscal year? Although I'm not sure a spin-off title would have that much of an effect...
 
Here's my ULTIMATE question.

My SUPER DUPER question I would love someone to answer. And it would have made a world of difference and put this game in a much better place for many people.

Why..........WHY did SE announce Final Fantasy Versus XIII AT ALL?


Why would ANY developer, announce vaporware that is more than 3 years out?

Don't do it.

Don't do that. 3+ years out? Just keep it under wraps! You don't build hype and keep hype for that long. Better to wait until it's actually......I don't know. A GAME.


This game should not have even BEEN ANNOUNCED until late 2014, as far as I'm concerned. Everything else before that was tripe.

You should probably aim this message at every AAA publisher. Dont announce the game until the end of development is in sight. Granted the FNC announcement was especially bad because all 3 of those games either had barely started development or werent even in development yet.
 
Maybe a PS4Neo is required to be able to run the game smoothly.

I doubt it. I think the big difference between the two versions is going to be IQ, and its going to make a world of difference.

FFXV will be the single biggest selling point of the Neo, there wont be another game that benefits from it as much as XV does imo.
 

Simo

Member
Here's my ULTIMATE question.

My SUPER DUPER question I would love someone to answer. And it would have made a world of difference and put this game in a much better place for many people.

Why..........WHY did SE announce Final Fantasy Versus XIII AT ALL?


Why would ANY developer, announce vaporware that is more than 3 years out?

Don't do it.

Don't do that. 3+ years out? Just keep it under wraps! You don't build hype and keep hype for that long. Better to wait until it's actually......I don't know. A GAME.


This game should not have even BEEN ANNOUNCED until late 2014, as far as I'm concerned. Everything else before that was tripe.

The reason every AAA publisher does, to generate interest and hype. I mean this thread jumped to over 500 replies in like 20 minutes. lol

I mean CD Projekt dropped a CG announcement trailer for Cyberpunk 2077 over 3 years ago and refuse to even discuss it or show any actual gameplay until next year...but thanks to their work on The Witcher 3, for a lot of people it's one of the most anticipated games announced.
 
Maybe a PS4Neo is required to be able to run the game smoothly.

if it is they better be getting a PC release out asap. Last thing this brand needs is for the game to run like dogshit on the consoles it was advertised to actually come out for. If they tell people "hey, get a NEO for the best FFXV experience!" it's just going to make the sting of any inherent problems even worse.
 

RedZaraki

Banned
The reason every AAA publisher does, to generate interest and hype. I mean this thread jumped to over 500 replies in like 20 minutes. lol

I mean CD Projekt dropped a CG announcement trailer for Cyberpunk 2077 over 3 years ago and refuse to even discuss it or show any actual gameplay until next year...but thanks to their work on The Witcher 3, for a lot of people it's one of the most anticipated games announced.

But what is the actual DIFFERENCE between THAT hype, and the hype of revealing 1 year before release? Does it ACTUALLY get you more sales?

Surely a year is enough time for the same set of people to be aware of your product.
 

Nerokis

Member
It's the first time it's been publicly delayed.

But the definition of delay is to make something happen later than originally planned or intended. And I'm pretty sure when Square Enix first decided to develop this game, they intended to release it much much sooner.

Well, XV and Versus XIII are also different games. Versus XIII never reached an advanced stage of development, and XV reflects the sensibilities and efforts of a new team. It's kinda pointless to invoke Versus XIII's history here, because outside of public perception, it's not all that pertinent to the development situation around the game now being worked on.

In most cases, people understand the occasional delay. On a practical level, this is no different from those cases. It would be counterproductive for the current team to rush their game out, just because Nomura used up all his "please wait a little longer" cards when Versus XIII was still a thing.
 

Byvar

Member
But what is the actual DIFFERENCE between THAT hype, and the hype of revealing 1 year before release? Does it ACTUALLY get you more sales?
Yes. Now a lot of the people who were looking forward to Versus are buying FFXV, even if FFXV isn't as appealing to them. If they had never shown any Nomura-directed trailers and instead started with the Tabata-directed trailers, there would be less hype and less sales for sure.

EDIT > Oh, you were talking about Cyberpunk there. I'd assume it'd be similar in that people are hyped for "another Witcher 3-type game" rather than the Cyberpunk concept itself.
 
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