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Days Gone PS4 pro screenshots

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Raylan

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So hyped for this game. Sony Bend is one of Sonys best studio. Packed with talent. Can't wait to play Daye Gone.
 
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Veitsev

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MastaKilla said:
Can somebody tell me a great 4K TV in the 1000-1500 range that I can buy that will be good for the next 5 years? Lol :(
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Samsung KS8000 (Rtings review) is the best value in that range. I would stay away from Vizio as its scaling tech is poor so 720p and 1080p content doesn't work as well. Samsung and Sony have the best scaling tech at the moment. Samsung is also a 120 hz TV while the Vizio P Series is a 60hz television at 50 inches and uses an IPS display (worse color/black levels) at 55 inches. You don't get a good quality display AND 120hz with the Vizio P Series unless you are willing to go to 65 inches or higher which is $2,000.
 
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ViciousDS

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DirgeExtinction said:
Without HDR, but with Game Mode on, it's somewhere in the low 20s. Unfortunately, there aren't any 4k TVs that have low input lag with both Game Mode + HDR on.


Well, I think the Samsung KS9800 does, though I'm not sure.
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Kind of pointless without using HDR isn't it? That's half the selling point of the 4K TVs your missing out on a massively bigger color palette







Dear god this game looks amazing
 
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Frag Waffles

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Looks incredible. They are really nailing the feel of the world. I'm really dying to see some intimate, moment to moment gameplay.
 
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DirgeExtinction

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Veitsev said:
Samsung KS8000 (Rtings review) is the best value in that range. I would stay away from Vizio as its scaling tech is poor so 720p and 1080p content doesn't work as well. Samsung and Sony have the best scaling tech at the moment. Samsung is also a 120 hz TV while the Vizio P Series is a 60hz television at 50 inches and uses an IPS display (worse color/black levels) at 55 inches. You don't get a good quality display AND 120hz with the Vizio P Series unless you are willing to go to 65 inches or higher which is $2,000.
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According to Rting's review, 1080p content look great with the P-Series. It's only 480p and 720p that don't look as great. If you're going to be using the TV for consoles and movies, 60hz is fine.
Also, both that Samsung model and the P-Series received the same score for 1080p content, lol.
 
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Ibuki

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Ooccoo said:
Isn't the game shit though?

edit: confused it for 7 Days to Die :/
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Perishton.jpg
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Looks pretty close to me.
 
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The Praiseworthy

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That 2nd picture... wow!

I really like this game, I saw a good potential since the reveal and immediately clicked with it.

I sense it will be among the memorable PS4 games :)
 
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DirgeExtinction

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ViciousDS said:
Kind of pointless without using HDR isn't it? That's half the selling point of the 4K TVs your missing out on a massively bigger color palette







Dear god this game looks amazing
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True. I mean, you can do both Game Mode + HDR on say the Vizio P-Series, but input lag jumps to around 60ms. I wonder if that can be fixed/lowered with firmware updates.
 
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Forever Changes

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Veitsev said:
Samsung KS8000 (Rtings review) is the best value in that range. I would stay away from Vizio as its scaling tech is poor so 720p and 1080p content doesn't work as well. Samsung and Sony have the best scaling tech at the moment. Samsung is also a 120 hz TV while the Vizio P Series is a 60hz television at 50 inches and uses an IPS display (worse color/black levels) at 55 inches. You don't get a good quality display AND 120hz with the Vizio P Series unless you are willing to go to 65 inches or higher which is $2,000.
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Still pretty bad input lag. I'm assuming this will continue to improve over the years?

lord pie said:
JPEG compression?
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Probably doesn't help, but that blur is due to the upscaling technique.
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
RoboPlato said:
That's the best part of this method, it's temporal stability. Many reconstruction techniques don't hold up in motion.
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HomerSimpson-Man said:
Having it as a fast dedicated built in hardware for reconstruction leaving most of the hassle out of devs hands outside mostly wanting to do it not, that is a brilliant design decision.
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Yeah. It also rises the quality of implementation, so there is less chance that the individual dev can fuck up their games with it with custom software implementations that vary based on the developer.

Games like mankind divided that use that shitty post process sharpening filter can mess up the whole image though.
 
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Veitsev

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DirgeExtinction said:
According to Rting's review, 1080p content look great with the P-Series. It's only 480p and 720p that don't look as great. If you're going to be using the TV for consoles and movies, 60hz is fine.
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A lot of broadcast TV is still at 720p. I watch a lot of hockey so 120hz and good 720p was really important to me. The Samsung also has better gray uniformity which was a big problem and caused me to return 2 Sony TV's before spending the money on the Samsung.
 
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ViciousDS

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DirgeExtinction said:
True. I mean, you can do both Game Mode + HDR on say the Vizio P-Series, but input lag jumps to around 60ms. I wonder if that can be fixed/lowered with firmware updates.
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Eeeehhhh that's a little too high

God, this whole HDR with UHD with game mode working at the same time has made tv buying such a pain. I'm pretty sure I'm down to two series of models lol. It's slim pickings for gaming really it seems
 
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Veitsev

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Forever Changes said:
Still pretty bad input lag. I'm assuming this will continue to improve over the years?



Probably doesn't help, but that blur is due to the upscaling technique.
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That is good input lag for a 4k TV. The best TV's are all around 20 ms. But yeah it isn't at the single digit levels you can get from a good PC monitor.
 
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Hero_of_the_Day

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Forever Changes said:
Still pretty bad input lag. I'm assuming this will continue to improve over the years?
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22ms is absolutely fine. No one is noticing that shit, I don't give a fuck how sensitive you are.

Veitsev said:
That is good input lag for a 4k TV. The best TV's are all around 20 ms. But yeah it isn't at the single digit levels you can get from a good PC monitor.
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They had this to say about PC monitors in their comments:

Assuming you are referring to response time and not input lag, PC monitors are not really better than TVs. Their advertised response time is false/misleading. We measure response time in a very strict way, and so our measurements can't really be compared to other methods. As for input lag, TVs are generally higher than monitors, but most people won't notice an input lag below 50ms.
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For what it's worth. Don't know shit about it.
 
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farisr

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Honestly, all this 4k and HDR talk has led me to go on amazon, best buy and various other sites checking out the good TVs to potentially purchase them, spend a good 20-30 minutes every time until I convince myself not to do it right now.

Just like how 4KTVs without HDR are pretty damn low in price now as opposed to when they launched, TVs with HDR will undoubtedly experience a sharp decrease in price over the next 2 years or so, plus input lag in HDR should also be addressed more often in more models leading to more options (rather than just the one or two models that most people seem to mention). Not to mention I have a PSVR bundle purchase coming up (which costs more than the expensive PS3 did over here).

Gonna enjoy the Pro benefits on a 1080p TV/projector and in PSVR in the meantime.
 
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DirgeExtinction

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Veitsev said:
A lot of broadcast TV is still at 720p. I watch a lot of hockey so 120hz and good 720p was really important to me. The Samsung also has better gray uniformity which was a big problem and caused me to return 2 Sony TV's before spending the money on the Samsung.
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Aren't all tv broadcastings 60hz? Honest question, but how would a 120hz tv make that better? Seeing both reviews, the Samsung gray uniformity is a bit better than the Vizio's. I honestly thought most broadcasts were 1080p by now.
ViciousDS said:
Eeeehhhh that's a little too high

God, this whole HDR with UHD with game mode working at the same time has made tv buying such a pain. I'm pretty sure I'm down to two series of models lol. It's slim pickings for gaming really it seems
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Yeah, it is. I do hope it can be improved with updates. Samsung may have one that has a lower input lag with both options on, but I'm not sure.
 
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Veitsev

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Forever Changes said:
Yea I guess I shouldn't be comparing them to monitors.

Will they ever get there though?
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This was Rtings response in the Q/A section of that review

20ms for gaming? I'm sorry but that's just awful. Obviously computer screens will always be faster, but to say that a response time 4-5 times slower than a computer screen is great is kind of mind boggling. Until a non OLED TV can get their response time to less than 10 ms you really can't give a TV a score higher than a 6 in gaming.

- Assuming you are referring to response time and not input lag, PC monitors are not really better than TVs. Their advertised response time is false/misleading. We measure response time in a very strict way, and so our measurements can't really be compared to other methods. As for input lag, TVs are generally higher than monitors, but most people won't notice an input lag below 50ms.
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Inuhanyou

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DirgeExtinction said:
Aren't all tv broadcastings 60hz? Honest question, but how would a 120hz tv make that better? Seeing both reviews, the Samsung gray uniformity is a bit better than the Vizio's. I honestly thought most broadcasts were 1080p by now.
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Not in America.
 
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Forever Changes

Banned
Veitsev said:
This was Rtings response in the Q/A section of that review
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This seems like a "most people won't notice framerate over 60fps" kind of post.

I and many other notice these things, 50MS is a lot!

Hero_of_the_Day said:
Suuuure they do. I'd love a blind taste test between 20ms and 10. I'd wager 99% of people who claim they can notice a difference would fail.
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It would be close, but I reckon I could tell with my trusty mouse in CS GO.
 
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EASTC0AST_GH05T

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Veitsev said:
Samsung KS8000 (Rtings review) is the best value in that range. I would stay away from Vizio as its scaling tech is poor so 720p and 1080p content doesn't work as well. Samsung and Sony have the best scaling tech at the moment. Samsung is also a 120 hz TV while the Vizio P Series is a 60hz television at 50 inches and uses an IPS display (worse color/black levels) at 55 inches. You don't get a good quality display AND 120hz with the Vizio P Series unless you are willing to go to 65 inches or higher which is $2,000.
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huh? the Bestbuy link shows the P series has 120 hz at 50 inches as well.
 
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