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3DS HOMEBREW Discussion Thread [exploits/carts/applications/games]

epmode

Member
Doesn't work in this case, because he can't system transfer the N3DS to an O3DS to stop it being erased by the system transfer (you can only transfer from N3DS to other N3DS)
Hacking the N3DS doesn't require you to ever transfer its NNID to another console. You wind up removing the NNID at some point but it's still associated with the device and Nintendo won't complain when you re-link it once the hack is complete. I did exactly the same thing. You just have to make sure you back up all of your saves before going through with the procedure.

I had an unhacked N3DS with an NNID I wanted to keep on the latest firmware along with an unhacked 3DS XL on an older firmware. Worked perfectly. I was able to redownload all e-shop content and import my saves.
 

phanphare

Banned
Hacking the N3DS doesn't require you to ever transfer its NNID to another console. You wind up removing the NNID at some point but it's still associated with the device and Nintendo won't complain when you re-link it once the hack is complete. I did exactly the same thing. You just have to make sure you back up all of your saves before going through with the procedure.

I had an unhacked N3DS with an NNID I wanted to keep on the latest firmware along with an unhacked 3DS XL on an older firmware. Worked perfectly. I was able to redownload all e-shop content and import my saves.

awesome thanks!

so one more question, my OG 3DS doesn't have a NNID associated with it. do I need to make one or can I do it without one?
 
Hacking the N3DS doesn't require you to ever transfer its NNID to another console. You wind up removing the NNID at some point but it's still associated with the device and Nintendo won't complain when you attempt to re-link it. I did exactly the same thing. You just have to make sure you back up all of your saves before going through with the procedure.

I had an unhacked N3DS with an NNID I wanted to keep on the latest firmware along with an unhacked 3DS XL on an older firmware. Worked perfectly. I was able to redownload all e-shop content and import my saves.

I'm assuming they wants to keep all their content, if they are willing to back up the saves (not always possible since JKSM has fairly mixed performance when launched form homebrew, and needs the mmap stuff I posted before for many games) and then do a system format and then system format after hacking and re link the NNID and redownload everything and restore the saves, that would work. This of course assumes that menuhax is already installed (since the updated browser in 11.1 stops Browserhax and the IP work arounds were patched in 11.0 IIRC) on the N3DS.
 

epmode

Member
I do have menuhax installed on my New 3DS and do want to keep all my content. I also haven't updated to 11.1 yet if that matters.

So you're doing exactly what I did a month ago. It should work. You'll have it easier than me, actually, since Plailect's guide has a much faster procedure now.

BTW, Elaugaufien is correct that backing up saves is a little wonky and you may run into a game that won't work. Thankfully, missing saves are as bad as it gets. You'll be able to re-download all E-Shop content.
 

phanphare

Banned
So you're doing exactly what I did a month ago. It should work. You'll have it easier than me, actually, since Plailect's guide has a much faster procedure now.

BTW, Elaugaufien is correct that backing up saves is a little wonky and you may run into a game that won't work. Thankfully, missing saves are as bad as it gets. You'll be able to re-download all E-Shop content.

awesome, thanks yall!
 
I do have menuhax installed on my New 3DS and do want to keep all my content. I also haven't updated to 11.1 yet if that matters.



ok cool thanks

Definitely don't update to 11.1 until you backup your saves with JKSM , (replace the Homebrew launcher boot.3dsx with this: https://github.com/ihaveamac/9.6-dbgen-xmls, to improve the number of games that JKSM can take over ).

Make sure you're all set before you update to 11.1 since you shuld remove menuhax before updating to 11.1, otherwise the data will remain on your system and may cause issues after the downgrade (it's recoverable but annoying)).
 

jackal27

Banned
So I haven't updated to 11.1 yet and I've been meaning to browser hack my n3DS.

Is this still possible and if so will I not have access to the eShop now that 11.1 is out?
 
So I haven't updated to 11.1 yet and I've been meaning to browser hack my n3DS.

Is this still possible and if so will I not have access to the eShop now that 11.1 is out?

If you're on < 11.0 it is via using a special DNS (or system date / time setting depending on version). If you're on 11.0 then I think you're out of luck, I believe the DNS work around was fixed and if you use the Browser you'll be prompted to update to the 11.1 browser which has patched Browserhax)..
 
So why dont console makers just add a homebrew loader to their normal ui? With some protection to prevent piracy of course.

Because consoles are loss-leaders*, the money is from licensing games to run on their systems.

*Its considered a major success if consoles break even or return a small profit on the hardware side.
 

Zomba13

Member
So if I want to do the same as Phanphare, put cfw/homebrew on my 11.0.0-33E New 3DSXL and keep the New 3DSXL NNID and games and saves etc, I should be able to using my Old 3DS on CFW while keeping the New 3DSXL NNID and associated games?

What if I don't have any sort of Hax on my N3DSXL? Both the CFW Old 3DS and the New 3DS are on the same firmware, 11.0.0-33E. Would I be able to backup my games/saves?
 
Didn't Sony try that with PS3's OtherOS before they removed it?

Not really. The Linux install on PS3s had very limited access to a lot of stuff that would have been needed for homebrew games etc (ie Graphics) , it was mainly about being able to see what you could do with the Cell processor (it was pretty impressive in parallel computation ability at the time).
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
That's normal, sometimes. Getting am:u handle / svchax is unstable, if it stays like that for 10 minutes or so it just means you need to reset and try again. It's safe to reset at that stage too (its only when it starts writing Files / Firm that its dangerous).
It really feels off beyond the point of it just needing to be repeated a bunch of times. No activity at all beyond the "am:u handle" error and no sign that it's trying to process anything. I just feel like a sucker repeatedly hard resetting to try this thing over and over with no visible reason to think it'll work.
 
It really feels off beyond the point of it just needing to be repeated a bunch of times. No activity at all beyond the "am:u handle" error and no sign that it's trying to process anything. I just feel like a sucker repeatedly hard resetting to try this thing over and over with no visible reason to think it'll work.

Try running PlaiSysUpdater again, just to make sure your downgrade actually worked, an incomplete downgrade can cause this to happen as well.

ETA - Sorry, I see you are trying to downgrade from 10.1 , that really should just be instability.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Sysnand is on 9.2 (I think?) and Emunand on 11.0. I have it set to autoboot into menuhax --> Luma.

Guessing I shouldn't update the Emunand?
 
Not really. The Linux install on PS3s had very limited access to a lot of stuff that would have been needed for homebrew games etc (ie Graphics) , it was mainly about being able to see what you could do with the Cell processor (it was pretty impressive in parallel computation ability at the time).

Basically this. The official loader for Linux on PS3 basically locked it out of access to GPU. The primary reason seemingly being "that's not for games, go buy some". Which is by the way the same thing MS is doing with screening bg apps for XB1 right now.

The exact reasoning is only speculated, but it is assumed Sony wanted PS3 to qualify for, at the time, lower priced "open computer" EU tax tier (which they also tried with PS2 Linux kit and failed since that was separately purchased), while at the same time making it insanely unattractive to regular homebrew community so they wouldn't dare to make free games for it. The assumptions follow to claim this was a spectacularly bad idea, since that tax difference in those EU countries which had it ended up disappearing soon, lack of free games didn't raise PS3 value to gamers who could purchase some commercial games too, yet the whole machine was still interesting to data scientists who never bought any games (while PS3 was sold at loss). Still, this could be wrong.
 

Opa-Pa

Member
Is there any way to access the eShop and theme shop without updating firmware if I don't have CFW? I use homebrew launcher via smilehax.

EDIT: Never mind. ctr-httpwn did the trick. Thank god, I wanted that free SMT4A theme and the YW2 demo.
 
Doing some googling and searching in this thread, but is there a good guide on updating somewhere?

Just picked up DQ7 and it wants 10.7 something.

I'm still on 9.9.0-26u using Ironhax on my Majora Mask 3ds XL. Don't want to mess up my emulators.

EDIT: The arm9loaderhax instructions say to install a homebrew launcher (and list most of the exploits, but not ironhax) and then to do a downgrade to 9.2.0. I want to be sure that I can safely do the 9.2.0 downgrade from the homebrew launcher with ironhax. I *assume* that I could just proceed with the 9.2.0 downgrade from my existing homebrew menu?
 

olivil

Neo Member
I am on 11.0. I know I can't get CFW but I would still like to get the homebrew channel, is that possible?

I saw that one of the entry point was freakyhax, however I don't have the required game and I must update to 11.1 if I want to access the eShop.

What's the best way of doing this?
 

womp

Member
Sysnand is on 9.2 (I think?) and Emunand on 11.0. I have it set to autoboot into menuhax --> Luma.

Guessing I shouldn't update the Emunand?

I run the same setup, you can update fine. No problem. Back up your emunand though, always a good thing to do before an update. Since Menuhax is running off 9.2 you will be fine, just make sure you are on your emunand before you do the system update.
 

epmode

Member
I'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction here:

I managed to replace the music in the Western release of DQ7 with the Japanese music, repackaged the game structure into a 3DS file, converted it to CIA and installed. Worked perfectly, except the CIA I created apparently is missing the manual that's was in the original CIA I ripped from the cart. I didn't notice any options for repackaging a manual so I'm not sure where to start. Any advice?
 
Just bought a 2DS today, came with 6.0 out of the box, so I'm following the guide on Github in the OP. Just got to the part where I'm updating the system software... I love that it says, "Yes, this is safe. Stop asking." because this is the first part I've gotten really nervous.

Seems like I'm almost done with the process, wish me luck!
 

Parshias7

Member
Maybe this isn't the best place to ask, but this thread is active so I'll put it here: What's a good flash cart to use for DS games? In particular, I want to back up my old DS games so I can go ahead and put the cases into storage rather than continue to take up a ton of shelf space.

I have a CycloEvolution card from years ago, but I just booted it up now and poked around a bit and about half of the games on there didn't even boot. I also had a slot 2 card that it kept failing to identify.

A quick search online seems to point to SuperCard DSTWO being the new best option, but I also see DSTWO+, but the + version seems to be for adding 3DS game support, which I'm not really interested in doing homebrew on my 3DS at the moment. Would just the regular DSTWO be my best option here?
 
Maybe this isn't the best place to ask, but this thread is active so I'll put it here: What's a good flash cart to use for DS games? In particular, I want to back up my old DS games so I can go ahead and put the cases into storage rather than continue to take up a ton of shelf space.

I have a CycloEvolution card from years ago, but I just booted it up now and poked around a bit and about half of the games on there didn't even boot. I also had a slot 2 card that it kept failing to identify.

A quick search online seems to point to SuperCard DSTWO being the new best option, but I also see DSTWO+, but the + version seems to be for adding 3DS game support, which I'm not really interested in doing homebrew on my 3DS at the moment. Would just the regular DSTWO be my best option here?

If you can get it cheaper then yes. If it's pricier than DSTWO+ then there's no need for that. The 3DS "support" is basically a DSTWO+ app (since DSTWO[+] can run special programs on cart) that tries to simulate Gateway card but fails at some situations, you can just delete that, you can never select it from menu, you can never import Gateway's firmware - and in fact you shouldn't since that can brick your 3DS.

I am not sure if DSTWO apps can run better on DSTWO+ or not but with tiny amount of these whatsoever it's a moot point.
 

Knurek

Member
A quick search online seems to point to SuperCard DSTWO being the new best option, but I also see DSTWO+, but the + version seems to be for adding 3DS game support, which I'm not really interested in doing homebrew on my 3DS at the moment. Would just the regular DSTWO be my best option here?

Do not get DSTWO if you value your battery life - flashcards with additional CPUs cut the already miniscule amount 3DS has by half.
If you're under CFW, pretty much everything out there will work - I managed to get my Acekard 2.1 (non DSI version, something that didn't work on any DSI/3DS FW!) up and running using a Boot Slot-2 CIA. Other people report even old R4 cards working fine.
DSTT seems to be best when it comes to quality/price ratio, and it works flawlessly with DS Forwarders, if you want your DS games to show up on the Home Menu.

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phanphare

Banned
so I had success last night with my OG 3DS. gonna chill with it for a bit and figure things out and then attempt the system transfer/dsiware hack.

are there any good resources for everything I can do with the system now?
 
I see a flashcart reseller mention that a "new and improved version" of the DSTWO+ will be coming out at the end of September, but I'm not able to corroborate that anywhere. Anyone know about this?
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Just making sure, if I upgraded to 10.7 and I don't have access to another 3DS, is that it for me as far as downgrading it goes? Just want to be sure before I fully update to get back upon the store.
 
Just making sure, if I upgraded to 10.7 and I don't have access to another 3DS, is that it for me as far as downgrading it goes? Just want to be sure before I fully update to get back upon the store.

Nope. Assuming you either haven't used the browser since 10.8 came out (ie you've never got the update your browser msg) or have certain games you're possibly good.

You should the check the guide, I forget if you need a DNS change or if you're good with the date / time trick on 10.7.
 
I got everything all set up successfully yesterday, I'm loving this.

One question though... I'm kind of confused on the best method for GBA emulation. I have mGBA, but obviously that runs games super slow. I know there's the DSTWO+ or other CPU-enabled flashcarts, but I'd like to avoid that if I can. I keep reading about AGB_FIRM and VC injection, but I haven't found any noob-friendly tutorials for either of those things.

I have a 2DS with arm9loaderhax done via the Github tutorial in the OP. I've since done a full System Update to the latest version. Will either of those methods work for me, and if so, how can I get them set up?
 
I have my NNID on my bricked 3ds. I got a new one. Can I relink my nnid on my new system and should I do that before or after I get CFW on it? (I have to call nintendo right?)
 

Zomba13

Member
But can I do that with a CFW 3DS?

I think you just call Nintendo and say you 3DS is broken and you need the NNID unlinked so you can put it on a new one then they unlink it on the server side so when you are ready you can then re-link it to another console (with or without CFW).
 
So I think I have the worst luck in the world and maybe messed up a system transfer with another 3ds.

If I just get a new system and a sky3ds can I back up my games withe the 2ds to .3ds files to play on a system with 3d and bigger screens and not have to lug around carts? I don't want to fuck with CFW anymore. I have my 2ds hacked and just want it to be the only one and have another were I can play my games without having to worry about screwing things up, losing access to eshop and my games
 

Zomba13

Member
So I got around to putting CFW on my New 3DS using the DSi ware transfer thing using an already CFW system (my Old 3DS). Both setup using Plailect's guide. N3DS is now on 11.1 while O3DS is still currently on 10.1.

Everything is fine though I've yet to try and re-link my NNID (I did a system format at the start that unlinked the NNID though according to stuff around the web I should be able to just re-link it when I set up the NNID because it stays locked to the hardware). N3DS can install .cia and run homebrew etc.

My Old3DS has CFW on a 64GB SD card which I have backups of my 3DS games on. My New3DS has a 16GB card that just had(I guess still has?) some of my digital 3DS games (tied to my NNID now I suppose).

My question is, is there a way to just use my 64GB card in the N3DS (it's a micro in an adaptor for the O3DS). When I put it in my N3DS my custom theme loads up but no games or other .cia (like the Quake port or the save manager). I've rather not have to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my .cia backups and transferring the saves over again. I mean, if there isn't a way then I can just the 64GB card to my PC, copy over the 16GB files and then start from step one again right? Or do I need to do something with the 64GB card? When I've searched I've seen mention of images or copying emunands and I don't fully get it and it only seems to apply with going from a smaller card to a bigger one and keeping your stuff from the smaller card. I just want to use my already set up 64GB card my O3DS uses.

Could I do that if I just copy/replaced the files on the 64GB with the files from the N3DS 16GB? Would I have to just re-install the tickets for my games or something so my N3DS has the permission to run them?


EDIT: Never mind. I've pretty much sorted it. Got my N3DS on CFW on 11.1.0-34, working on getting my games back on it, the one I've tried I've managed to import the save correctly from the old3ds CFW. NNID is linked up again. Everything is good.

Having a bit of an issue with the eShop though, it just loads on the circle forever after signing in with my NNID. Works if I use ctr-httpwn through the homebrew launcher though. I can't seem to import my Mii plaza/Mii Maker data though, I was sure I backed it up correctly but now it says there is no save data and won't let me import extdata.
 

Madao

Member
there's something i'm interested to know if it's possible to do or not.

how do you boot an emunand when you have a A9LH 3DS running the newest firmware?

my emunand knowledge is not much since i only learned the basics back when i put CFW on my 3DS before A9LH was viable and i've forgotten most of it since i switched to A9LH.
 

Knurek

Member
there's something i'm interested to know if it's possible to do or not.

how do you boot an emunand when you have a A9LH 3DS running the newest firmware?

You set up an emunand, and then set up Luma to boot it.
(newest version of Luma has support for up to 4 separate emunands)
 

Jockel

Member
there's something i'm interested to know if it's possible to do or not.

how do you boot an emunand when you have a A9LH 3DS running the newest firmware?

my emunand knowledge is not much since i only learned the basics back when i put CFW on my 3DS before A9LH was viable and i've forgotten most of it since i switched to A9LH.
I think you hold select while booting luma to select which NAND is selected- but if that doesn't work you could still dump the EmuNAND and clone it to SysNAND.
 

epmode

Member
I have a New 3DS running 11.0.0-33 with A9LH and the latest Luma3DS. I'd like to download some DLC for the new Ace Attorney game but it wants me to update to the latest firmware first. How can I bypass this check? Remember, downloading DLC like this requires me to do it from the game, not the E-Shop.

If the check isn't easy to bypass, would updating to the latest firmware be a problem? I've read that it can break the Homebrew Launcher which I still use for some stuff.
 

Zomba13

Member
I have a New 3DS running 11.0.0-33 with AL9H and the latest Luma3DS. I'd like to download some DLC for the new Ace Attorney game but it wants me to update to the latest firmware first. How can I bypass this check? Remember, downloading DLC like this requires me to do it from the game, not the E-Shop.

If the check isn't easy to bypass, would updating to the latest firmware be a problem? I've read that it can break the Homebrew Launcher which I still use for some stuff.

Does launching ctr-httpwn then going into the game work or is that only for system level things like the browser and eShop and System Transfers?

Also, dunno if it matters, but my N3DSXL is running the CFW from Plailect's guide and is on the latest firmware and can access the homebrew launcher and launch things from it.
 
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